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Lenovo Debuts First Netbook with NVIDIA ION Graphics Processor

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Lenovo today announced the IdeaPad S12, the company's first 12-inch netbook. The new netbook takes the best in connectivity, style and entertainment features in Lenovo's other netbooks and brings users the next level in netbook computing with improved usability and performance. These enhancements include a 12.1-inch screen, a 100 percent full-size keyboard and new graphics options with the NVIDIA ION platform.

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great laptop manufacture, great hardware cant go wrong
 

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all seems great but the eee 1000he seems like a better choice [those extra 2 hours of battery life are very important to me] other then the shorter battery life this seems to be a nice little netbook [gotta love the 12" screen].
 
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Looks to be a very solid laptop. And could be a netbook I am willing to get.
 
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Very nice. But why-o-why 1GB max memory. Silly handicap on an otherwise promising machine :slap:
 
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Blame Microsoft for that cap. Manufacturers are only allowed to put in 1GB if they're going to use Windows XP SP3.
 
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Does that mean if I put Windows 7 on it, I can have more ramz?
 
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Looks nice. My perfect netbook would 11"~12", an atom 330, win 7, 2gb of ram, 6+ cell battery, 32gb ssd and the ion chipset/graphics.

I know this is rivaling notebook specs but I am thinking long lasting battery an a very small footprint would make this an awesome netbook.
 
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Blame Microsoft for that cap. Manufacturers are only allowed to put in 1GB if they're going to use Windows XP SP3.
I believe that restriction is on the Starter edition, not Home
 
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Looks nice. My perfect netbook would 11"~12", an atom 330, win 7, 2gb of ram, 6+ cell battery, 32gb ssd and the ion chipset/graphics.

I know this is rivaling notebook specs but I am thinking long lasting battery an a very small footprint would make this an awesome netbook.
Atom 330 isnt really suited to a laptop, TBH. It is OK in a mini-server NAS environment, but the 330 wont make the laptop go faster, it just allows more concurrent threads. But for a laptop, the user will task switch but typically only use one application as the sole user at a time, so the 330 doesnt add any noticeable benefit over single Atom with HTT.

For longer battery, I believe the Z530/Z540 would be a better chip, right? Why are they using the 270 when the 280 is faster and the Z540 is faster still and also lower power?
 
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Up to 1GB DDR2 533 MHz memory = crap
 
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This would be great in a 10 inch form factor! Although this is pretty good anyway. SSD storage would be a nice option as well, reduce the number of moving parts.

Also, Microsoft limits XP to machines with 1 GB of RAM installed by the OEM; you can still upgrade it to 2 GB of even 4 GB after purchase.
 
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Also, Microsoft limits XP to machines with 1 GB of RAM installed by the OEM; you can still upgrade it to 2 GB of even 4 GB after purchase.
I thought that the Atom platform only supported up to 2GB Max due to it not being able to run a 64-bit OS?
 

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I thought that the Atom platform only supported up to 2GB Max due to it not being able to run a 64-bit OS?
as far as i know the 2gb limit is because of the chipset the platform uses. only the desktop variant supports 4gb or RAM [and even there im not sure]
 
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Not impressed.
 
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You lot really ought to know better.
It will ship with 1GB of memory, but the chipset support up to 4GB, so just upgrade it yourself.
The limitation is imposed by Microsoft, not by the hardware... :banghead:
 

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Atom 330 isnt really suited to a laptop, TBH. It is OK in a mini-server NAS environment, but the 330 wont make the laptop go faster, it just allows more concurrent threads. But for a laptop, the user will task switch but typically only use one application as the sole user at a time, so the 330 doesnt add any noticeable benefit over single Atom with HTT.

For longer battery, I believe the Z530/Z540 would be a better chip, right? Why are they using the 270 when the 280 is faster and the Z540 is faster still and also lower power?
That's not true at all. The difference would be like going from Pentium 4 to an E6300.

Besides, the main selling point of a dual-core Atom Netbook would be the ability to play 1080p video. With that, the netbook line would be complete.
 
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Why Lenovo? You almost have a perfect netbook, and then you ruin it by not giving it a N280 or N330.
 

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Why Lenovo? You almost have a perfect netbook, and then you ruin it by not giving it a N280 or N330.
There is no such thing is an N330.
 

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That's not true at all. The difference would be like going from Pentium 4 to an E6300.

Besides, the main selling point of a dual-core Atom Netbook would be the ability to play 1080p video. With that, the netbook line would be complete.
Not quite right. The Atom 330 is no faster than a 230 in single threaded apps. There is no extra cache, no extra MHz. Only a second core. So it only delivers more in multithreaded code. In "netbook" type activities, the power consumption would be higher for no real additional benefit, therefore battery life is shorter. A "Z" atom is lower voltage and more power efficient and therefore the preferred CPU *ONLY* it is more expensive so often OEM skip the better for the cheaper SKU!

Note also that many many codecs are still not multithread optimised. To get GREAT HD performance, leave it to the chipset to accelerate; one of the main features of ION.
 

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Not quite right. The Atom 330 is no faster than a 230 in single threaded apps. There is no extra cache, no extra MHz. Only a second core. So it only delivers more in multithreaded code. In "netbook" type activities, the power consumption would be higher for no real additional benefit, therefore battery life is shorter. A "Z" atom is lower voltage and more power efficient and therefore the preferred CPU *ONLY* it is more expensive so often OEM skip the better for the cheaper SKU!

Note also that many many codecs are still not multithread optimised. To get GREAT HD performance, leave it to the chipset to accelerate; one of the main features of ION.
False. Atom 330 has 1MB of cache. It's twice as good as Atom N270.
Your argument against having more than one thread was refuted years ago by me and the others when Quad cores came into the picture. I have an N270 laptop. I just built an Atom 330 Mini-ITX computer (as can be seen in my temporary sig). The performance difference in just windows (considering Windows itself knows how to take control of more than one thread for each window/internal application), is just what I expected. Opening Word documents has become twice as fast, surfing the net, multi-tasking.. everything pretty much. Now, if I were to emulate Nintendo DS via No$GBA, yes, maybe it wouldn't matter to have two cores. As for power consumption - the chipset alone takes as much as an extra two N270's.
I can tell in your voice that you own a single-core Atom. And I am sorry, but this is the truth. I own both - I have no reason to pick a side. But I picked my Quad core over the E6850 when everyone loved the E6750, and I'm going to build an 8-core system next, because it just pays off.
Also, unless you want to find an external Blu-ray/HD-DVD player to hook up to the Netbook, ION will be useless. Running H.264 files only utilizes the CPU. Which is why Atom 330 is a god-send.
 

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False. Atom 330 has 1MB of cache. .
Yes, it has 1 MB of total cache, but the cache isn't shared between the two cores. Each core has its own 512 KB of L2 cache, and the cores are assembled onto an MCM (multi-chip module), like Pentium D. There are two separate dice on one package, unlike on Core 2 Duo where two cores shared a die, and also an L2 cache. So a thread can't use more than 512 KB of external cache.