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metal is very bassy, it's roots are jazz and blues.
 
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My rig sounds pretty damn awesome IMO. :rockout:
 

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I didn't like matrix mode, though the sound was balanced evenly across the speakers, it made everything sound weak. I just put my fader on my software to about 60% in the back, and my fader on my remote more-or-less all the way to the back. If I could get the other part of the software to work again, I set my sub woofer volume to max and my cut-off frequency from 35-45hz. 50-60hz for rock.

Overall I love the speakers, I can't turn my volume knob all the way up and get clear sound, but thats because I have my sound on comp to max and my equalizer has very high frequencies with and extra overall volume boost. I guess you can say I like to live loud.:rockout:
 

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metal is very bassy, it's roots are jazz and blues.
I've listen to some Jazz and Blues, all of what I have heard is not Bass at all, its a lot of Treble. Whats the one thing pretty dominant in Jazz? A Saxaphone, thats sure as hell not bassy from the songs I've listen to :/ All mid/hightone.

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I didn't like matrix mode, though the sound was balanced evenly across the speakers, it made everything sound weak. I just put my fader on my software to about 60% in the back, and my fader on my remote more-or-less all the way to the back. If I could get the other part of the software to work again, I set my sub woofer volume to max and my cut-off frequency from 35-45hz. 50-60hz for rock.

Overall I love the speakers, I can't turn my volume knob all the way up and get clear sound, but thats because I have my sound on comp to max and my equalizer has very high frequencies with and extra overall volume boost. I guess you can say I like to live loud.:rockout:
I have the opposite result with both my on-board ALC1200 and Xonar, stuff sounds flat, weak, faded out etc with matrix mode off. Although with my TPower sound sounded better from the on-board codec with matrix off instead of on. Guess it depends on the soundcard. Same with Frequency.
 

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I've listen to some Jazz and Blues, all of what I have heard is not Bass at all, its a lot of Treble. Whats the one thing pretty dominant in Jazz? A Saxaphone, thats sure as hell not bassy from the songs I've listen to :/ All mid/hightone.



I have the opposite result with both my on-board ALC1200 and Xonar, stuff sounds flat, weak, faded out etc with matrix mode off. Although with my TPower sound sounded better from the on-board codec that uses with matrix off instead of on. Guess it depends on the soundcard.
Umm Bass guitar, stand up bass, not to mention the Kick drum, any floor toms, etc., etc.

You don't know much about music, do you?
 

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I'd say you don't. Ask any real rocker and all will tell you kick drum, Bass guitar etc all have a definitive "dumm" kinda noise. Not distorted mind, just "dumm".
 

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I'd say you don't. Ask any real rocker and all will tell you kick drum, Bass guitar etc all have a definitive "dumm" kinda noise. Not distorted mind, just "dumm".
I am a real musician. I play all three. Bass, guitar and Drums. There are different pitches of that "dummmmm" as you so put it. A muddy sub does not allow you to discern those different pitches, and it furthermore reduces the subs ability to accurately replay fast attack, quick decay sounds, like a kick drum.

You are only reinforcing the fact that you don't really know much about sound or music. Sure, it comes down to personal preference, and how picky one is, but accuracy is completely quantifiable.

If an audiophile says a sub is muddy, it means it is not accurate. It may be good enough for you, or a multitude of other people, but that doesn't make it not muddy.
 

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Ket man, the bass can't be muddy. A picked bass must sound picked and not just mushed. Metal is supposed to sound tight and not loose/boomy. The bass must be clear.

Pic of my equipment coming. I think some of you might be surprised.
 

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I am using a digital output from the soundcard to my amp.The only thing i need now is an active sub.
 

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Ket man, the bass can't be muddy. A picked bass must sound picked and not just mushed. Metal is supposed to sound tight and not loose/boomy. The bass must be clear.

Pic of my equipment coming. I think some of you might be surprised.
I never said its supposed to be muddy, in fact I said it shouldn't sound muddy. I did say though bass is supposed to have some kick to it, where wile is talking like bass should sound like treble.
 

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I never said its supposed to be muddy, in fact I said it shouldn't sound muddy. I did say though bass is supposed to have some kick to it, where wile is talking like bass should sound like treble.
No I'm not. It said it should be crystal clear. Clarity has nothing to do with frequency. What I typed, and what you interpreted it as are 2 entirely different things.
 

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So I interprited what you said wrong due to you not quite using the right words to describe what you meant, there, we are both wrong then :D Me for mis-interpriting what you said, and you for not properly describing what you meant :p
 

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So I interprited what you said wrong due to you not quite using the right words to describe what you meant, there, we are both wrong then :D Me for mis-interpriting what you said, and you for not properly describing what you meant :p
But I didn't use improper terminology. Clarity is a pretty standard word when referring to sound quality.

Meh, either way. The point got across.
 

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It was kinda improper terminolgy, when somebody says "Clarity" automatically you think of everything BUT base. Base isn't clear in the traditional sence, its a deep tone.
 

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It was kinda improper terminolgy, when somebody says "Clarity" automatically you think of everything BUT base. Base is clear, but whats thought of in a slightly different way to everything else.
No, that's the way you think of it. Clarity is a proper term for describing a speaker's sound qualities, regardless of whether it's a sub, mid, tweeter, or anything else.
 

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My primary tuning is for my headset as my apt sucks, so do my neighbors and the thin walls..so my TB's get the most tuning bar-none. I am fairly specific on how I want my audio to sound, I like full sound, I don't need earth shaking bass or ear-drum splitting hi's, but I do like good accuracy, level adjustments. I take my time tuning the EQ to what I feel sounds best overall...I used to tune as a "per application" basis, i.e. music, movies, games, compressed music, compressed movies, etc. I now have gone a tad more general with Headset and Speaker EQ settings. I leave the rest of the X-Fi features off, don't need em, they don't seem to improve anything to my ears.

One thing I've learned with headsets is to either get a cheap plantronics set unamplified or get an amplified headset, really anymore I prefer headsets just for the fact I can listen to whatever I want as loud as I want and be good to go. The TB HPA2's are amplified, have level adjustments for all channels, a master volume, and sound really good overall. Not super accurate 5.1, but if I wanted a tru sound-stage I'd have a 5.1 speaker setup, no point in a small apartment and the time and wiring it'd take to setup a 5.1 speaker setup just isn't worth it for me. 2.1 speakers are great, my satellites are mounted on the wall even with the top of my monitor, that actually improved overall sound stage a bit for my ears, the Logitech X-230's are a very good and cheap 2.1 set, plenty of sound, solid clarity, and bang-for-buck still one of my favorite 2.1 kits ever.

The X-fi has been a great card, I've had no issue with creative drivers in Vista x64 for well over 1 year now, many compain, maybe they're after something I'm not...but my sound is great and undistorted, very clear, the EQ adjusts as I command it to, the software is stable, I could care less about EAX, the cmms3d works great with 2.1 channel speakers and heasets. I know creative isn't the best at support, but I recommended the Xtreme Music to a friend of mine that decided to spend way more on an xtreme platinume pci-e, he ended up getting rid of it days later because of problems. I say if you go x-fi, get a lower end x-fi. To me it sounds leaps and bounds better than most onboard, I compared my P5B's onboard to the X-fi, hands down the x-fi was much clearer and more distinct with detail, hi's, mid's and low's. Sure it's not top dollar but with patience, time and tuning it sounds very good without having to get the best equipment that would require the same amount of time, patience and tuning to get similar results. I go for a good budget/performance ratio in pretty much all areas of my rig, this is definately one of them. What it comes down to is what you're happy with, I'm extremely content with my setup, so I feel I can highly recommend the X-Fi Xtreme Music, Turtle Beach HPA2 5.1 headset, and Logitech X-230 2.1 speakers without issue. They all work great together, the headset comes with good quality splitters, many hate them, but these ones are very good, thick, solidly built, support up to 5.1 split, and I noticed no audible differences in the audio I listen to using them. Plus it helps the HPA2's are amplified I suppose, very good sound through them overall, more of a well rounded sound...if you want max bass, they're not for you. Just my 2 cents! :D

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PS: I'm not audiophile enough to spend a ton of senn's with an amp built into an altoids can...just not for me! :p
 

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As you guys can see my sound system sucks teh balls. It used to be a 5.1 creative set that sadly died. The bass speaker was incredible in the sense that when a cannon went of on medieval 2 total war my next door neighbour though a gun was actually fired.
cant fix them?

My creative "Cambrige SoundWorkds" set had a short in the vol control wires, i just cut below short and patched the wires back togather, sure i gotta tweak volume with the system now, but it works great :)

as to my sound setup

Speekers: logitech z3's(2.1)+cambrige soundworks(4.1)+altec lancing 2.1 (for center and sub)
soundcard: onboard ALC888 with DK R2.22 drivers

I look at myself as a simi-serious audio phile, Not to the level of some, but the reasion i have the mix of speekers i do, is that after some moding(replacing some of the acctual speekers) it sounds better then the native 5.1 set it replaced, covers a wider range of freq and has more crisp/clear responces.

I have a reciver i may be switching to once i get ahold of a card that can do DTS encoding(5.1 setup thats got some kickass speekers on it....i may even upgrade the front speekers on that set with an old set of speekers i got on a shelf that where expencive as hell when i got them years back)

this thred has been fun to watch.......clueless people argueing with audiophiles is fun to watch :)
 

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Can't fix them they got thrown out in anger. Anyways I'd consider myself a medium audiophile I just cant get the damn equiptment but I would if I had money. So frickin tired of these flat dull speakers. They aren't even stereo.
 
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I've had these speakers for years and pretty much the only way I'll get rid of them is when you grab them from my cold, dead hands..or they die. I do quite a bit of video rendering and to me audio is just as important, if not more. When it comes to my music collection(Heavy Metal, classic rock, country, and some more Heavy Metal) I want to hear every string, cymbal, drum, and vocals as I can. Soon I will have a nice sound card again, probably another Titanium Pro due to the others have a lack of Win 7 support right now and I honestly was very impressed with the Tit Pro.
 

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Speakers - On screen :(
Sound card - P5Q Deluxe onboard :(
Amplifier - Not being used :(

As you guys can see my sound system sucks teh balls. It used to be a 5.1 creative set that sadly died. The bass speaker was incredible in the sense that when a cannon went of on medieval 2 total war my next door neighbour though a gun was actually fired.
You know the Audio chip on The P5Q deluxe is one of the best on-boards you can get right?

Oh and about this muddy thing, since I have had my X-230s I have never heard such clean bass in a long time.

The problem comes down to personal preference, I like my Bass too much, I cant help it, these X-230s kick out better sound than any PC speakers I have ever had. Better than my Dads Cambridge Soundworks, IMO.

I knew this discussion wouldnt take long to get a bit toing and froing.

Although I only have a X-230s I consider myself an Audiophile because crap sound bugs me, I make the most out of what I can afford. Spend ages getting positioning and settings right. Though I have to admit, I have turned the EQ off for these speakers.
 

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Realtek 889A Codec and im using fibre optical yeah i love the sound thats coming out of the speakers :nutkick:
 
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Nice little setup, good range from the speakers, my desk is a little hollow so can get bit of sound distortion but I think with some lead filled stands they will be perfect. Ill add pics later if I can.
 

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Logitech z5500
Realtek 889A Codec and im using fiber optical yeah i love the sound thats coming out of the speakers :nutkick:
same setup on my media PC, using the DTS encoding.

gaming PC uses either onboard w/ X-fi mod, audigy 4 or auzentech X-mystique (i need a new VGA cooler to fit a soundcard in, and haven't decided which one yet)
 
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