1. Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Lets talk PC Audio

Discussion in 'Audio, Video & Home Theater' started by Mussels, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. Rockfella.killswitch

    Rockfella.killswitch

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30 (0.01/day)
    Thanks Received:
    0
    I have the Asus Xonar DX and no optical out on the motherboard. Should i use the digital out of the DX or ana if i buy the Edifier S730 (Digital 2.1 speakers!)

    Thanks.
     
  2. BumbleBee

    BumbleBee

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Messages:
    5,702 (2.09/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2,154
    Location:
    Cybertron aka Canada
    use analog out on the DX.
     
  3. Rockfella.killswitch

    Rockfella.killswitch

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30 (0.01/day)
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Does this mean if i connect digital speakers using toslink from the DX i'll get inferior sound?
     
  4. BumbleBee

    BumbleBee

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Messages:
    5,702 (2.09/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2,154
    Location:
    Cybertron aka Canada
    yeah not to mention your sound card won't be doing much other than passing the audio to the Edifier S730.

    a mini-jack (3.5mm) to RCA cable should do it. connect it to the Front jack on the DX if I remember.
     
  5. Mussels

    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    45,065 (10.37/day)
    Thanks Received:
    12,279
    Location:
    Australalalalalaia.
    not so much that - more that using digital makes your sound cards analogue redundant.

    cheap onboard sounds exactly the same as high end audio, through digital connections.
     
    10 Year Member at TPU
  6. BumbleBee

    BumbleBee

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Messages:
    5,702 (2.09/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2,154
    Location:
    Cybertron aka Canada
    this is the cable you need

    [​IMG]

    connect the black end to the Front jack on the DX and the Red and White ends to the Edifier S730 sub.
     
  7. Rockfella.killswitch

    Rockfella.killswitch

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30 (0.01/day)
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Oh.. so what's the use of buying a dedicated sound card with digital out like the DX? I want to use the "Dolby Digital Live" of the DX which i've not been able to use yet. I think i can only use it with dogotal speakers?
    I got this cable. So analogue connection will make use of the sound card?
     
  8. BumbleBee

    BumbleBee

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Messages:
    5,702 (2.09/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2,154
    Location:
    Cybertron aka Canada
    your sound card can process music a lot better than those speakers. you don't have 5.1 speakers so Dolby Digital Live doesn't matter.

    yes.
     
  9. Rockfella.killswitch

    Rockfella.killswitch

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30 (0.01/day)
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Then what speakers would truly utilize the full potential of my DX?
     
  10. BumbleBee

    BumbleBee

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Messages:
    5,702 (2.09/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2,154
    Location:
    Cybertron aka Canada
    yes. in stereo.

    Dolby Digital Live is used for sending 5.1 to a receiver with speakers like this.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Mussels

    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    45,065 (10.37/day)
    Thanks Received:
    12,279
    Location:
    Australalalalalaia.
    the most expensive ones in the world, of course.


    what we're saying is: you bought an expensive sound card for its better analogue outputs. at least try them, before going digital (since digital makes the expensive card completely redundant)


    while digital will be a pure, unaltered signal, the analogue may sound better to you.
     
    10 Year Member at TPU
  12. Rockfella.killswitch

    Rockfella.killswitch

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30 (0.01/day)
    Thanks Received:
    0
    I am ruling out speakers completely. I'll go for this maybe...

    Audio Technica ATH-M35

     
  13. BumbleBee

    BumbleBee

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Messages:
    5,702 (2.09/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2,154
    Location:
    Cybertron aka Canada
    analog is going to sound better because the DAC section inside the Edifier S730 was probably an afterthought.
     
  14. Rockfella.killswitch

    Rockfella.killswitch

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30 (0.01/day)
    Thanks Received:
    0
    So analog speakers can utilize dx's dac?
     
  15. BumbleBee

    BumbleBee

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Messages:
    5,702 (2.09/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2,154
    Location:
    Cybertron aka Canada
    what do you mean? all speakers are analog.
     
  16. Rockfella.killswitch

    Rockfella.killswitch

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30 (0.01/day)
    Thanks Received:
    0
    I mean a good set of 2.1 speakers that'll do justice to my sound card :p
     
  17. Millennium

    Millennium

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2005
    Messages:
    610 (0.15/day)
    Thanks Received:
    76
    Location:
    London, UK
    I have a Xonar DX and I have to say that if you have a decent (£500+) system you would benefit from a decent DAC. I went for a new one, Micromedia MyDac, but you can get something Cambridge Audio for example for maybe £100, and it should beat the crap out of most sound cards. You deserve it!
     
    10 Year Member at TPU
  18. BumbleBee

    BumbleBee

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Messages:
    5,702 (2.09/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2,154
    Location:
    Cybertron aka Canada
    the sound card isn't that good :p
     
  19. Rockfella.killswitch

    Rockfella.killswitch

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    30 (0.01/day)
    Thanks Received:
    0
    :cry:
     
  20. SaltyFish

    SaltyFish

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2012
    Messages:
    443 (0.29/day)
    Thanks Received:
    132
    I've seen optical outputs on the back of many TVs. What exactly is the point of it?
     
  21. cadaveca

    cadaveca My name is Dave

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2006
    Messages:
    15,536 (4.09/day)
    Thanks Received:
    9,253
    Location:
    Beaumont, Alberta
    HDMI passes optical to TV, then TV optical-out to stereo for audio. Most TV's only support 2-channel SPDIF though. It's more meant for those that have receivers that don't do HDMI, and video devices that don't offer coaxial audio output.

    Nice necro, BTW> :roll:
     
    10 Year Member at TPU
  22. MxPhenom 216

    MxPhenom 216 Corsair Fanboy

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2010
    Messages:
    11,659 (5.32/day)
    Thanks Received:
    3,424
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Question for you all. My file server has a ALC892 audio chip, so I can split the communication devices and speakers to separate channels. My main rig also has the ALC892, can I basically gaurentee that I will be able to split them into separate channels as well? If So I might just sell my HT Omega Striker sound card.
     
  23. Mussels

    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    45,065 (10.37/day)
    Thanks Received:
    12,279
    Location:
    Australalalalalaia.
    i'm really not understanding the question. please try asking again, in a different way.
     
    10 Year Member at TPU
  24. trog69

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2011
    Messages:
    34 (0.02/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2
    Location:
    SW USA
    Since the title to this thread was "Let's talk pc-audio", I'd like to remark on what I've found so far in my search for better sound via my PC.

    I'm a retiree and an avid PC gamer. For years I was quite happy with the very inexpensive Logitech 5.1 powered speaker system. Then, after upgrading to a 680ftw GPU, I decided that I missed my past audio obsessions, so I started shopping. First, I got lucky twice on the first day, finding a refurbished Sony 7.1ch receiver, and a Polk Audio 12", 300watt powered subwoofer, both of them for $300 delivered-and an added 3year warrantee on the receiver included! Then I hit Craigslist looking for used speakers and again got very lucky. The ad was for a pair of vintage KEF dual-8"driver mini-towers. When I arrived, I found out that the gentleman was an amateur speaker repair guy, and regularly sold repaired speakers. So, I left his house with the pair of KEFs and a pair of B&W 601 se's for $400 total. So, I'm now sitting in front of both sets sitting on my very large desktop, and all for less than $800 for cables, speaker wire,etc.

    What is curious, to me anyway, is that I couldn't find much of anyone who replaced their sound card/PC speakers with a receiver/bookshelf speakers. And old receiver will work, as long as you're happy with stereo only. This Sony is HDMI-capable, but since I'm only interested in stereo, SPDIF works fine, as would RCA jacks.

    Another thing I learned was that today's digital receivers pretty much all have great sound, because they all use the same circuit boards. The price differences between my $150 refurb.($230 regular price) and a $600 Denon or Yamaha or...is the added features for HT use, primarily. Some of the higher-end receivers/amplifiers have separate mono-amps for each channel, so upping the price, but from what I've read at many HT/music enthusiast websites, you'd be hard-pressed to actually hear the difference. So, rather than spending more for a receiver when the cheaper one has the features you want, I would heartily recommend you look at better speakers, because they definitely do NOT sound the same. hehe.

    Here's a pic of the setup. Sub and receiver under the desk. Tuneage and gaming.jpg
     
  25. qubit

    qubit Overclocked quantum bit

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    12,449 (3.90/day)
    Thanks Received:
    5,798
    Location:
    Quantum Well (UK)
    @trog69 Those are some great speakers you've got there. I recommend that you try a Creative X-Fi sound card with them if possible, as the sound is just amazing. I'm talking about without any post-processing effects, too. They're discontinued now, but if you can find a decent one on Amazon or eBay they're well worth it.

    Don't pay over the odds for it though (should be around $50-$80) and don't fall for one of the cheap Creatives that are labelled X-Fi, but don't actually use the X-Fi chipset.
     

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guest)