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LG Launches the UltraGear OLED With 240 Hz Refresh Rate

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200nits is not that bad, but 300+ would be. 200nits can be a requirement in a bright environment, but pretty painful in dark room.
Also, HDR is different, peak brightness is not meant to be sustained and it's not even across the entire screen.
Yeah. The OLEDs can do high highlights but I have mine calibrated to do paperwhite (99% of the desktop) at 200nits. Much better than you were thinking I think, lol.

Yeah 300-400 sustained you get holes for eyes.
 
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1 year warranty is a dealbreaker at this price.
 
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1 year warranty is a dealbreaker at this price.
its inline with the rest of the industry

also, just because a place like Dell has crap panels you're forced tom sift through doesn't mean LG OLED suffers from a similar panel lottery!; when displays are made in China, then you really get a massive quality variation from one set to the next!

Also, hopefully this will drop prices on the 120 hz models to less than half soon.
 
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its inline with the rest of the industry

also, just because a place like Dell has crap panels you're forced tom sift through doesn't mean LG OLED suffers from a similar panel lottery!; when displays are made in China, then you really get a massive quality variation from one set to the next!

Also, hopefully this will drop prices on the 120 hz models to less than half soon.

Incorrect. Most monitors offer a 3 year warranty like the Acer Predator X34, ROG Swift PG279QM, and even the low end acer G257HU, ASUS VG24VQ, and the Acer Nitro QG271 (which is a mere $109 USD)

Other OLED monitors offer a 3 year warranty like the AW3423DWF.

So no, this monitor offering a 1 year warranty is absolute trash when even $100 monitors are offering much better. Dell's warranty on their high end monitors is particularly good. They will express ship you a new monitor and provide a fully paid return label and box for your old one.

On a $1,000 monitor it's absolutely unacceptable.
 

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At first I thought this was 27" 2160p240, but luckily its actually 1440p240. This is fine since the PPI should be similar to other 27" 1440p monitors out there.
 

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So $999 is a lot of money for a brand that has been unable to really address burn-in issues despite the competition doing a pretty solid job.

I want to like this, but LG's track record so far has been bad, based on customer reviews and mainstream youtube channels.

I am not impressed with their customer service, to the point ended up avoiding the warranty and fixing my own monitor.

It's not a monitor it's still a 42" 120Hz native HDR OLED display, so I get your point

TV are largely financed with their smart OS (targeted ads, metrics they sell etc.) and their mass production volume so yes it's harder to compare price wise.

42" tho that cannot work for me 32" is the max I'd go for a monitor.


I just don't understand the choice of picking an aggressive matte anti-reflective coating here...partially kills the purpose of OLED there...at least have glossy options.

I think I may pick the alienware freesync OLED one but I will wait for CES as many other may show OLED/mini-led displays


For you maybe, loving mine :):).


No-one will give you that kind of a warranty, as it's not how these kind of products are supposed to be used.


Fixed.

Maybe they should not allow it then in the first place.
 
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I am disappointed that miclo LED manufacturing didn't get a lot better by now. Basically work on same principle as OLED where there is no backlight but little LED's that make the picture. Unlike OLED, micro LED's have a longer life span and there is no danger of burn in.
 

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I am disappointed that miclo LED manufacturing didn't get a lot better by now. Basically work on same principle as OLED where there is no backlight but little LED's that make the picture. Unlike OLED, micro LED's have a longer life span and there is no danger of burn in.
That thing never got past the prototyping phase. Iirc, QD is supposed to replace it, there aren't really hopes in favor of uLED.
 
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That thing never got past the prototyping phase. Iirc, QD is supposed to replace it, there aren't really hopes in favor of uLED.
It’s already in use in certain customer products. There is still some difficulty in making panels of usable size for office use, but those should go away in a few years.
QD oled has poor brightness when used with a polarizer, and shitty black levels when it’s not used. Which is a bit sad.
 

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It’s already in use in certain customer products. There is still some difficulty in making panels of usable size for office use, but those should go away in a few years.
QD oled has poor brightness when used with a polarizer, and shitty black levels when it’s not used. Which is a bit sad.
Customer products, yes. Consumer products, no.
Afaik, uLED is only used on very large screens/walls, because the pixels cannot be shrunk enough. So yeah, downsides wherever you look.
 
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its inline with the rest of the industry

also, just because a place like Dell has crap panels you're forced tom sift through doesn't mean LG OLED suffers from a similar panel lottery!; when displays are made in China, then you really get a massive quality variation from one set to the next!

Also, hopefully this will drop prices on the 120 hz models to less than half soon.
Dell with their "crap panels" includes 3 years warranty (including burn in exchange) with their QD-OLED displays.
 
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Customer products, yes. Consumer products, no.
Afaik, uLED is only used on very large screens/walls, because the pixels cannot be shrunk enough. So yeah, downsides wherever you look.
There are also microled displays for VR and AR applications, but not at any consumer price point. The displays are made directly on silicon using litography. Stupidly expensive and it’s not realistic to make anything large with that approach.
 
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Is it just me who is waiting for an 34 or 37" curved 21:9 OLED with a 3440x1440 or 3840 x 1600 resolution??
 

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Is it just me who is waiting for an 34 or 37" curved 21:9 OLED with a 3440x1440 or 3840 x 1600 resolution??
Probably not, but, personally, besides OLED, I hate everything in that sentence.
 
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Well i have an CX 65" from 2+ years ago and i have no issues at all with burn in so fare, but Oled as a monitor with a lot of static elements i can see why people are skeptic on using an Oled, and I am to...


The last 2 screens I had, I had for 10 years and 6 years so I can understand why OLED burnin could be a problem :) But as all Reviewers say it is a lot better today than before soooo….
 
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Any relevant ones since the 8 -series? All I’ve seen have been just fine after the panel refresh, and latest models simply do that more often automatically to limit the ””problems”” visibility to the end user.
I don't know. The two 2018 LG C7 OLEDs purchased at work burnt-in after about 18 months. One had our company logo smeared onto it as a dark shadow - it was playing a video loop in the main lobby for 9 hours a day and the logo was present in about half of the content. The other I think we still have in one of the meeting rooms and IIRC it's not too bad but there are definitely dark spots spaced exactly the same distance apart as the taskbar icons and the top and bottom edges are brighter than the rest of the screen, as that's where the black title bar and task bar always sit. If I remember when I'm there next week I take a photo. IIRC it's not terrible but it's there and that's a light-use display that's under 5 years old and probably has sub-2500 hours on it.

Some people are stuck years in the past... that is all.
Perhaps they are getting better but enough high-profile Youtubers have been daily-driving 2020 and 2021 LG OLEDs and experienced burn-in to make me think this is an LG issue. I believe Linus' 2021 CX might have been the worst-burned after only a few months, but he does also like HDR. LTT have done several videos on OLEDs as monitors, at least two of which have been long term tests with LG panels.

The thing is, other OLED manufacturers seem to be doing better. Dell/Alienware are offering a zero-burn 3-year warranty, for desktop use which presumably means you don't need to take precautions like taskbar auto-hide and aggressive display-sleep times. Both LTT and HUB took those precautions with their LGs and they burnt-in anyway. The only phone I've ever had OLED burn-in on was my Motorola X Force and it definitely wasn't a samsung AMOLED, so potentially that was LG's fault too. I know it was from the Google-owned Motorola days and the previous 3 Nexus phones were all Google-LG partnerships.

I guess I am living in the past. 2021 and 2022 are in the past, OLED burn-in isn't something that happens instantly, so you need to go back a year or two to find models that are only now burning-in. Since OLED is expensive, I would want to get more use out of it than the pitiful 1 or 2 year warranty period, so I need to look at historic data. We'll only know if today's LG Ultragear is burn-in free for 3 years in early 2026.
Anecdotally both my parents and my sister are using LG OLED TVs at home, but neither of them are a year old yet, and they use them solely for TV, not as monitors or for games consoles. I'm sure they'll both be fine...

This test by RTINGS is old news, but I'm hoping to see results of this 2022 update over the next year, as if there are any issues, they will likely materialise within the first 12 months:
 
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Well i have an CX 65" from 2+ years ago and i have no issues at all with burn in so fare, but Oled as a monitor with a lot of static elements i can see why people are skeptic on using an Oled, and I am to...


The last 2 screens I had, I had for 10 years and 6 years so I can understand why OLED burnin could be a problem :) But as all Reviewers say it is a lot better today than before soooo….
TVs detect static, bright elements and will dim them to avoid burn-in. Trouble is, there is no word on whether this feature is also implemented for monitors. I haven't read manuals, but tech sites and marketing materials do not mention it.
Also problematic for monitors is that if you do photo editing, you will work with static content, you will want bright elements and you will not want your monitor dimming stuff on its own.
 
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TVs detect static, bright elements and will dim them to avoid burn-in. Trouble is, there is no word on whether this feature is also implemented for monitors. I haven't read manuals, but tech sites and marketing materials do not mention it.
Also problematic for monitors is that if you do photo editing, you will work with static content, you will want bright elements and you will not want your monitor dimming stuff on its own.

Yes, i would be thinking of it everytime i was on my desktop watching youtube videoes or looking at reviews etc, on TPU and static elements in games (i would have a TPU logo water mark within months on the screen :D) , But if we just could get a overlay/gui randomizer % for menues and overlay in games i think Gamers should be somewhat safe for using OLED.

a DUAL LCD panel screen would be "perfect"
 

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Uhm, who uses their monitor at 100% brightness?
I run my 5k Ultrafines at max brightness because I like burning holes into my retinas and warming my face with that 500 nits of brightness.
 
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Yes, i would be thinking of it everytime i was on my desktop watching youtube videoes or looking at reviews etc, on TPU and static elements in games (i would have a TPU logo water mark within months on the screen :D) , But if we just could get a overlay/gui randomizer % for menues and overlay in games i think Gamers should be somewhat safe for using OLED.

a DUAL LCD panel screen would be "perfect"
DUAL LCD has same shit motion handling as any LCD and consumes a shit ton of power, especially when driving HDR content.

For dim SDR use they would be good, but that’s not where the money lies at this point..

I believe Linus' 2021 CX might have been the worst-burned after only a few months
Except that it was completely fixed after running the pixel refresh…

Later models do that more often automatically (500 hours instead of 2000).

I’d like to see examples of permanent burn in, not some temporary and fixable stuff.
 
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The only phone I've ever had OLED burn-in on was my Motorola X Force and it definitely wasn't a samsung AMOLED, so potentially that was LG's fault too. I know it was from the Google-owned Motorola days and the previous 3 Nexus phones were all Google-LG partnerships.
Completely off the subject but I miss my old Nexus 6. I had the Android Pie 2 button nav burned into the screen come to think of it.
 
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The thing is, other OLED manufacturers seem to be doing better. Dell/Alienware are offering a zero-burn 3-year warranty
Dell doesn't produce own OLED Panels, cough.

OLED burn-in isn't something that happens instantl
II have 2 OLED TVs at home, one of them is several years old.
 
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