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LG Teams Up With Razer and MediaTek to Present First-Ever Bluetooth Ultra-Low Latency Technology

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LG Electronics (LG) has collaborated with Razer and MediaTek to introduce the world's first Bluetooth Ultra-Low Latency (BT ULL) Controller at LG webOS Summit 2024 on September 27. This groundbreaking technology was showcased through an LG webOS smart TV and Razer's Bluetooth gaming controller, demonstrating the game-changing 1 ms input lag.

The webOS summit, which welcomed 300 representatives from 140 partner companies - including content developers, producers and providers - from 24 countries, shared LG's strategic vision and future initiatives for expanding its AI webOS ecosystem and platform business.




Razer, a leading global lifestyle brand for gamers, has developed the first game controller featuring BT ULL technology. To showcase its upgraded performance, LG and Razer compared a BT ULL-enabled Bluetooth game controller to a standard controller during the event. The demonstration highlighted the superior responsiveness, reduced input lag and control precision of the BT ULL technology across various cloud-based games, including FPS, fighting and racing titles.

The latest BT ULL technology offers the perfect cloud gaming performance, catering to competitive players who require lightning-fast response times to excel in their games.

In an industry first, LG plans to introduce a certification program for third-party game controllers in the near future to ensure BT ULL-supported controllers work seamlessly with LG webOS smart TVs. Razer will be the first company to obtain LG's certification.

Meanwhile, LG and MediaTek, a global fabless semiconductor company, are jointly developing the BT ULL technology to be integrated into MediaTek's Wi-Fi "MT7921" chipset. This chipset will also feature the efficient and reliable Wi-Fi 6 technology from MediaTek's Filogic series.

These collaborative efforts aim to enable LG webOS smart TVs owners to immediately dive into online multiplayer cloud games with the enhanced response times, delivering unprecedented levels of realism during gameplay.

The latest premium LG OLED TVs and LG QNED TVs, supporting refresh rates of 120 Hz or higher, are scheduled to launch in 2025 with BT ULL technology.

"LG is committed to consistently introducing more advanced features designed to immerse gamers in their favorite titles and to differentiate its gaming experiences," said Baik Seon-pill, head of the LG Home Entertainment Company's Product Planning Division. "As the LG webOS platform evolves, so will the features that make it the ultimate gaming platform for every type of gamer."

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thats pretty cool, i wonder if these controller will be compatible with existing computers.. or it requires newer bluetooth adapter...
also i wonder why razer... out of all
 

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thats pretty cool, i wonder if these controller will be compatible with existing computers.. or it requires newer bluetooth adapter...
also i wonder why razer... out of all
Maybe because Razer is using a MediaTek Bluetooth chip? Just a guess.
 
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also i wonder why razer... out of all
Mainly because mediocrity begets mediocrity....

"mediocre is as mediocre does" of which Razorrio is on the bottom end of that scenario :D

I have no problem with collaboration and advancements in tech, but OTOH, when 2 bottom-tier companies are the ones pushing said advancements, I really have to question their motives...

IMHO, BT 5.xx, that I use everyday for extended periods for lots of stuff, has little to no latency already, so I'd have to see the specifics on what this joint venture will yield IRL...
 
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Mainly because mediocrity begets mediocrity....

"mediocre is as mediocre does" of which Razorrio is on the bottom end of that scenario :D

I have no problem with collaboration and advancements in tech, but OTOH, when 2 bottom-tier companies are the ones pushing said advancements, I really have to question their motives...

IMHO, BT 5.xx, that I use everyday for extended periods for lots of stuff, has little to no latency already, so I'd have to see the specifics on what this joint venture will yield IRL...
It’s also too niche to really take off. It’s only for cloud gamers using an LG TV…
 
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Bottom tier in what way? 1ms is the holy grail for bluetooth. Usually that requires a custom 2.4GHz connection (like I have on my 1KHz polling Razer Viper V2 Pro). Razer is top tier in wireless mouse performance/latency right now.

MediaTek is also a great company, among the best SoCs for small devices like routers (e.g. Filogic 830 and 880) which have great open source support for Linux and mt76 drivers, so they are best for wireless routers and are fully supported by OpenWrt such as the GL-MT6000 or TUF-AX6000 both use them.
 
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Bottom tier in what way? 1ms is the holy grail for bluetooth. Usually that requires a custom 2.4GHz connection (like I have on my 1KHz polling Razer Viper V2 Pro). Razer is top tier in wireless mouse performance/latency right now.

MediaTek is also a great company, among the best SoCs for small devices like routers (e.g. Filogic 830 and 880) which have great open source support for Linux and mt76 drivers, so they are best for wireless routers and are fully supported by OpenWrt such as the GL-MT6000 or TUF-AX6000 both use them.
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Will it come delayed a year as well? The 2025 TVs only receiving the webOS update for it by early 2027?
 
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Bottom tier in what way?
Most razzers do not last due to low quality plastic and cheap connectors, and their softwarez & warranty/RMA support also suks wallah IMO....

As for MT, their stuff has been known to give up the ghost without warning, especially after multiple bug-ridden firmware updates that are/were intended to fix previous issues and usually ends up causing even more without resolving the previous ones :(

Granted this has been only my experiences with both products, but just sayin :)
 
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which have great open source support
Funny to read this about the company that used to openly violate the GPL by not releasing source code on OSS-derived stuff and not give two shits because they were beyond the reach of western lawyers.

Have they improved? Maybe. But that was pretty egregious and will be remembered a long time, making me question "great open source support."
 

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While sounds cool, the whole thing is a bit confusing...:wtf:
I'm pretty sure LG in this mix is the only party trying to ride the hype of recently released Bluetooth 6.0 spec without contributing much to the table.
With the rest of them... not so sure. Maybe the initial reporting was a bit off?
MT7921 is an older chipset, only capable of Bluetooth 5.2. Either Mediatek is prepping a new revision with 6.0, or that TV doesn't use 7921 at all.
Also, I'm wondering what tranciever did Razer use, since there's been nothing in press-releases about client chipsets for BT6.0 yet.
And if it's a custom solution on older BT revision, then I'd rather wait for proper BT HID ULL devices to arrive.
Bottom tier in what way?
Mediatek - dead and degrading chips pretty much everywhere all the time across all generations and applications. Maybe they did something different with their latest smartphone chipsets, but it'll at least take a few years of good products to pull me off the skeptical side.
Basically any relatively fresh HP Pavilion Gaming or ASUS ROG with MT wireless chipset goes for a mandatory AX200 replacement within a year or two. Also seen lots of TVs with failing WiFi (incl Samsung). Some with infamous RT8188, and some with equally infamous MT7603U(Ralink is also owned by Mediatek).
Razer - just their general quality and bad business practices. I haven't had a single Razer product personally due to bad rep, but I run a small electronics repair workshop, so it's kinda frequent to see their peripherals on the operating table. While having a 1000Hz gamepad is a blast, it instantly becomes less fun with thumbstick drift and non-working buttons :D
 
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