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Welcome to TPU! I agree with everything the Others are saying. As for a Cpu A nice AMD Phenom II Quad would do you well, Also An Intel Core I7 would be just as Good. If you dont plan on doing much over clocking Look into a Phenom II 920 If you do want to Overclock A Phenom 940 Black Editon is what you want. Also If this is your first time building a P.C You should Start a Project Log HERE:http://forums.techpowerup.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18, It Enables us to Help you along the way.
 

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Yup, I just turned 17 when I built my first rig, I should have done it like 2 years ago. It's actually not that hard though there can be complications, usually software crap. I built my rig on a measly €340 budget (about $430), it helps to use parts from your old computer like DVD Drive, hard-drive, monitor, keyboard/mouse and so on. It also helps if you buy some parts used to get them a bit cheaper.

Ask around and see if you can get some parts free, my mam used to work in an office and they got rid of their old PCs, my mam got one and it had an 80GB hard-drive in it which I'm using now.

Anything else you will be doing with the PC besides gaming? Video or photo editing? 3D modeling? Will you be doing any DVD ripping or playing BluRay or HD-DVD movies? Do you listen to much music?

It helps to know what you do, so if you played games but have a lot of movies and music you would probably want a large hard-drive, but if you just gamed and had some music you wouldn't need one as big and could go cheaper and spend the extra money on something else.

Watch movies, yes. Download movies, also yes!

As for DVD ripping/HD-DVD playing, not much. I don't really like music, and I don't have any songs on my computer!

Welcome to TPU! I agree with everything the Others are saying. As for a Cpu A nice AMD Phenom II Quad would do you well, Also An Intel Core I7 would be just as Good. If you dont plan on doing much over clocking Look into a Phenom II 920 If you do want to Overclock A Phenom 940 Black Editon is what you want. Also If this is your first time building a P.C You should Start a Project Log HERE:http://forums.techpowerup.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18, It Enables us to Help you along the way.

Dear GOD, I knew that Core i7's were pricey, but I had no idea they were in the thousands...
 
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Watch movies, yes. Download movies, also yes!

As for DVD ripping/HD-DVD playing, not much. I don't really like music, and I don't have any songs on my computer!

Movies, cool. Personally, I will be getting a 1TB Samsung drive as soon as I get the money, then I'm going to copy all my DVDs to ISO format then just mount them using Daemon tools so I just select the ISO file which is an exact copy of the disc and it plays as if I put the DVD in my computer but it's being played from the hard-drive. Advantages are no loud disc noises, no disc loading times and being lazy and not having to go get the disc :D

If you plan on doing that, I suggest a 1TB drive if you have a lot of movies.
 

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My suggestion for a $1000 build:

(links in the same order as picture)

Total is $972 and change.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236056
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231184
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.163933

 

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There is A Core I7 920 that is alot cheaper your looking at the Extreame Editon..Here you go:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202

Phew, thanks! I figured I was looking at the wrong thing. I'm not sure how much further I can stretch my budget. (I have a LOT more than just 800-1000 to spend, but I'm not looking to spend more than that.)

My suggestion for a $1000 build:

(links in the same order as picture)

Total is $972 and change.


Is there a case and monitor included? =[ If not, I will consider this, but it will be looow on my list of choices.
 

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Movies, cool. Personally, I will be getting a 1TB Samsung drive as soon as I get the money, then I'm going to copy all my DVDs to ISO format then just mount them using Daemon tools so I just select the ISO file which is an exact copy of the disc and it plays as if I put the DVD in my computer but it's being played from the hard-drive. Advantages are no loud disc noises, no disc loading times and being lazy and not having to go get the disc :D

If you plan on doing that, I suggest a 1TB drive if you have a lot of movies.

lol. I already have 2.5TB filled because of movies, and another 1TB drive on the way. I feel your pain. haha.
 
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Than Get A Phenom II 940 cheaper than the I7 and hardly a difference when you overclock here man :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471 :toast:

I beg to differ. The i7 is way faster than a Phenom II. You can overclock an i7 just as you can a PII. It's faster than a PII, hands down.

If we are lifting the budget to say around $1200, an i7 is a great idea, but to get it under that, you'll be sacrificing graphics power, that's where Yorkfield and PII come in. Trading cpu power for graphical power. It all depends on priorities.
 
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I beg to differ. The i7 is way faster than a Phenom II. You can overclock an i7 just as you can a PII. It's faster than a PII, hands down.

If we are lifting the budget to say around $1200, an i7 is a great idea, but to get it under that, you'll be sacrificing graphics power, that's where Yorkfield and PII come in. Trading cpu power for graphical power. It all depends on priorities.

Define way faster? I know its faster but does this guy really seem like he is going to care? To me it seems as if he is wanting to build a Nice Fast Pc for as Cheap as he can. He does not seem like the Benchmarking Freak like most of us are. Im not saying you are wrong by any means I'm just stating My own Opinion.:toast:
 

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I feel like I'm constantly increasing my budget. Curse myself, I told myself that I wouldn't blow over $1200 before I made post #1 haha.
Okay, so my worst nightmare happened. After almost 2 pages of contributions from everyone, I'm just as lost as I was before I came to TPU.
I noticed that Shadow's graphics card was 512mb, whereas Wile E's was 1gb. What exactly does that mean, and what are the differences?

Define way faster? I know its faster but does this guy really seem like he is going to care? To me it seems as if he is wanting to build a Nice Fast Pc for as Cheap as he can. He does not seem like the Benchmarking Freak like most of us are. Im not saying you are wrong by any means I'm just stating My own Opinion.:toast:

You are correct, I do want an affordable gaming PC. I have no idea what benchmarking means at all, all I know is that I'm a cheapass and I want the most for every penny I'm spending!
 
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I feel like I'm constantly increasing my budget. Curse myself, I told myself that I wouldn't blow over $1200 before I made post #1 haha.
Okay, so my worst nightmare happened. After almost 2 pages of contributions from everyone, I'm just as lost as I was before I came to TPU.
I noticed that Shadow's graphics card was 512mb, whereas Wile E's was 1gb. What exactly does that mean, and what are the differences?



You are correct, I do want an affordable gaming PC. I have no idea what benchmarking means at all, all I know is that I'm a cheapass and I want the most for every penny I'm spending!

Than take My Advice and get a PII. I know benchmarking does not matter to you. the I7 is a great CPU but its alittle more than a Phenom II Bang for buck= Phenom II.
 

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Define way faster? I know its faster but does this guy really seem like he is going to care? To me it seems as if he is wanting to build a Nice Fast Pc for as Cheap as he can. He does not seem like the Benchmarking Freak like most of us are. Im not saying you are wrong by any means I'm just stating My own Opinion.:toast:

For 5 years of use, there's a big difference. Any little advantage now will be a huge one in a few years time.

I feel like I'm constantly increasing my budget. Curse myself, I told myself that I wouldn't blow over $1200 before I made post #1 haha.

Okay, so my worst nightmare happened. After almost 2 pages of contributions from everyone, I'm just as lost as I was before I came to TPU.

I noticed that Shadow's graphics card was 512mb, whereas Wile E's was 1gb. What exactly does that mean, and what are the differences?

More video memory for better future proofing. Games are taking more and more video memory these days.
 
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For 5 years of use, there's a big difference. Any little advantage now will be a huge one in a few years time.

In 5+ Years He will more than likely want something new anywise. I agree with you Wile E, the I7 is very Fast..but is the Phenom II not? most batches of chips can hit around 4 and ive seen over 4. For what this guy is using it for he would be fine with either, I'm just giving him the Cheapest solution.
 

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To sum up, for $800, go with something like Shadowfold's build, but get DDR3 ram, and an AM3 motherboard instead.

For around $1000, go with the build I posted.

For more than that, go Core i7, no ifs, ands, or buts.
 

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Okay, so my gfx card is set on the Radeon HD 4870 w/ Crossfire support! That's settled! Now I just need to decide on... EVERYTHING ELSE.

=[

Edit: (With 1mb video memory, like the one in Wile E's rig!)
 
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Okay, so my gfx card is set on the Radeon HD 4870 w/ Crossfire support! That's settled! Now I just need to decide on... EVERYTHING ELSE.

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Good choice, you will be happy with a 4870 :)
 

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For 5 years of use, there's a big difference. Any little advantage now will be a huge one in a few years time.

In 5+ Years He will more than likely want something new anywise. I agree with you Wile E, the I7 is very Fast..but is the Phenom II not? most batches of chips can hit around 4 and ive seen over 4. For what this guy is using it for he would be fine with either, I'm just giving him the Cheapest solution.

Most Yorkfields easily surpass 4Ghz on air, can be had for the same prices as a PII X4 build, yet are still a tiny bit faster per clock. In everything but the bottom end, Intel is the better buy.
 

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Okay, so my gfx card is set on the Radeon HD 4870 w/ Crossfire support! That's settled! Now I just need to decide on... EVERYTHING ELSE.

=[

Edit: (With 1mb video memory, like the one in Wile E's rig!)
Ok, how much for the rest of the rig?

Ooops, double post. Sorry.
 

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Most Yorkfields easily surpass 4Ghz on air, can be had for the same prices as a PII X4 build, yet are still a tiny bit faster per clock. In everything but the bottom end, Intel is the better buy.

So the Intel Core 2 Q9550 can go over 4ghz on air, but does it OC just as good with the HD 4870 1mb compared to the PII Black Ed? I don't really know what I'm saying, so if I get a yes, then it's a yes! If it's a no, it's a no.

How does this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041
Compare to this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
In overall performance and overclocking potential on air w/ the HD 5870?

Ok, how much for the rest of the rig?
Ooops, double post. Sorry.

Okay, well let's just say that the HD 4870 1mb is 190, since I do get a rebate. I'll cough up to... let's say... 700-800 for the rest.
 
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So the Intel Core 2 Q9550 can go over 4ghz on air, but does it OC just as good with the HD 4870 1mb compared to the PII Black Ed? I don't really know what I'm saying, so if I get a yes, then it's a yes! If it's a no, it's a no.

HAHAHAHAA :laugh: Really they should be fine together. I always Run AMD with AMD though But thats just My own preference.
 

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HAHAHAHAA :laugh: Really they should be fine together. I always Run AMD with AMD though But thats just My own preference.

Hm, I'm still gearing towards this processor though:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471

I'm not sure if it's worse/on par/better than the Q9550 though.


I still have my XP SP2 CD that came with my sister's pre-built computer! (Not sure if it's legit though, we bought that PC ages ago from a private store, I've never used it on a second computer though, does it work on more than 1?)
 
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So the Intel Core 2 Q9550 can go over 4ghz on air, but does it OC just as good with the HD 4870 1mb compared to the PII Black Ed? I don't really know what I'm saying, so if I get a yes, then it's a yes! If it's a no, it's a no.

How does this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041
Compare to this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
In overall performance and overclocking potential on air w/ the HD 5870?



Okay, well let's just say that the HD 4870 1mb is 190, since I do get a rebate. I'll cough up to... let's say... 700-800 for the rest.

Go for it man! :rockout:
 
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