Looks like Intel's 8700k 6 core Coffee Lake might be quite a beast.

[vega22]

so asrock are saying these are not going to work in 200 series mobo....

making ryzen look more and more appealing to me intel :|

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https://twitter.com/ASRockInfo/stat...ot-supported-by-intels-200series-motherboards

 

[GreiverBlade]

so asrock are saying these are not going to work in 200 series mobo....

making ryzen look more and more appealing to me intel :|

for the 1st part yep ... definitively not an upgrade for the 200 series chipset (even if on the same socket ... )

for the second part ... yep too ... as i own a Z170 build i was semi happy when i saw the 7XXX series goes up and be backward compatible with Z170 (c'mon .... who need optane support or any of the "new features" the Z270 did bring.... not.) when i saw Ryzen i was quite ecstatic: finally some competition and the future 6/12 Intel beast is technically on the level of the 6/12 midrange from AMD (ok ok ... ipc ipc ipc .... shout the fans but .... nope Ryzen IPC isn't that much slower to justify a higher price from intel as they are now ....)

if i wanted 4/8 i could go 6700K/7700K but ... well the R5 1500X is quite cheaper ... and now that Intel decide 6 real core is the base, at a lower price and not that much underperforming i can have 6/12 or 8/16 .... (and nope the mobo change isn't a negative argument ... since both platform would need it )

let's wait the 8600/8700K benchies before deciding if it's a beast or not for now : it's a "Intel usual" aka: probably 5-10% better and probably overpriced as usual

let see ... X or Z ...... 370 (X being obviously X370 and Z is if intel decide to go Z370 of course ) i will see once the bench are out and pricing known ....

 

[Hood]

(c'mon .... who need optane support or any of the "new features" the Z270 did bring.... not.)

Don't forget the 4 more chipset PCIe 3.0 lanes (24 vs 20 on Z170) - admittedly only useful for NVMe RAID setups. One would hope Z370 would bring some kind of benefit over Z270, perhaps it will finally get a native Thunderbolt 3 controller, or at least 4 more PCIe lanes. Could be useful when 8-lane NVMe SSDs arrive in mainstream in a year or two.

 

[phanbuey]

let's wait the 8600/8700K benchies before deciding if it's a beast or not for now : it's a "Intel usual" aka: probably 5-10% better and probably overpriced as usual

let see ... X or Z ...... 370 (X being obviously X370 and Z is if intel decide to go Z370 of course ) i will see once the bench are out and pricing known ....

even if it's a 7600k/7700k with 50% more cores and 50% more cache, and overclocks the same, it is going to be an absolute beast.

If it has anywhere near an additional 10% IPC improvement, it will be putting up 1500-1600 points in cb multithread with 2 less cores. This chip will stomp on the r7's and r5's extra hard.

Ryzen will still be cheaper and more power efficient, but this is Intel's sweet spot; it will just absolutely run away with anything that isn't heavily threaded/optimized, and keep pace with r7 octacores in things that are. It's basically a 7800x without the crippling mesh.