Discussion in 'AMD / ATI' started by Cool Mike, Aug 4, 2012.
sexy card ... i like it
Love the card, but it looks like the text on the back plate is upside down, going to look a little odd on the case. Seems Sapphire is the only company this gen making that mistake
Yea but thats to be expected as the 7 series had a good performance boost over the 6 series, unlike the 6 over the 5 series.
And who's to know how it will be with the 7 series to the 8 series? it might be a good jump in performance or it could be like the 6 series and not be any improvement (like the 6850-6870) that actually went backwards in performance.
Just FYI the 6870 and 6850 did not go backwards. They simply changed the numbering scheme. The 6K series made some serious improvements, but overall performance of the equivalent cards wasn't as big as 6k to 7k
Just wanted to correct you on that though, because that's incorrect.
Well the 6950 and the 6970 are totally different cards, you cant put them against the 5870 unlike the 6870 and 6850, and everyone knows that we was NOT expecting the 6870 or 6850 to perform UNDER the old gen which they did. And as you just said yourself the equivalent cards wasnt as big as the 6k to 7k and thats just my point.
So iam correct sorry, the 6870 which took the place of the 5870 was infact a weaker card regardless of the 6950 or 6970, if you want to put those cards against there equivalent from the last gen, that be the 5970 and we both know the answer to that question lol
I'm sorry I would also disagree about the HD6870 going backwards from the HD5870. I owned at one time 2x HD5870's and 2x HD6870's and 2 x HD6950's while I will say that the HD 6900 series was a bit of a disappointment..... the HD6870's were not. The HD 6870 was not only just as powerful as the HD 5870 IMO it was also more efficient. I also could beat the HD 5870 in a lot of benchmarks (especially when the drivers became mature.) However..... I would still consider it more of a side ways move then a full upgrade. But that would really depend on what you consider an upgrade..... Power?, Performance?, or Thermals?
The HD 6850 though I will agree was not a upgrade from the HD5850 or HD5870. While that card could overclock like a bat out of hell....and achieve almost on par with the HD 6870 it was not an upgrade from the previous gen.
Actually, after the naming change the 6870 was primarily intended to replace the 5770, not the 5870. The 6870's performance is somewhere between the 5850 and 5870 at stock speeds, but it isn't what it was targeted to replace. I'm not sure where you get your information from, but you might want to double check your sources.
The naming shift worked like this and there actually were vast improvements over 5xxx series, including shader speed and efficiency, faster memory, and better crossfire scaling and honestly going from the 6000-series to 7000-series did the same kind of improvements, but didn't have the same amount of improvement.
5750 -> 6850
5770 -> 6870
5850 -> 6950
5870 -> 6970
Im just going by what the benchmarks where like when the card was released and it showed that the 6870 was indeed slower then the 5870 (in most games) but not by much, very little to be honest. I think you might find the reason why your 6870's beat the 5870's was well crossfire, the 6 series improved crossfire alot over the 5 series this i think is why your 6870's beat the 5870's? That would be my guess anyway.
Yea but who realy believed that? honestly, primarily intended doesnt mean it did, the whole naming scheme (for me) was a bit of a joke and for most of us users made it very confusing. For "us" computer savy people we get it and understand, but for the majority it was a wtf? Why bother changing the naming scheme when in fact it doesnt make any sense at all, they should never of changed it IMO.
Anyway i get what you mean and i understand that, but in my eyes if you name a card thats the same name as the previous gen and add a 6 to the start of it, you would "expect" an improvement??
I think we sorta got off track here, my point been from the start is that none of us know how much the 8 series card will be over this Gen card (his 7970) in performance and this is why i said it is future proof and that the 5 to 6 series wasn't much of a jump compared to the 6 to 7 series, am i wrong? and does anyone one got any proof that the 8 series will be just as big of a jump in performance over the 7 series? please post away.
cool mike isnt so cool he just posted and never came back
Sapphire HD7970 Toxic@1320/1880 max/t.-66
I already have hd8000 series info in my GPU-CN list check my sig for amd link and click the GPU_CN List sea islands is on bottom, have rops transistors everything on the upcoming tech
Sorry I havent been back. I was at NI(National Instruments) week in Austin, TX all last week.
Was missing my Toxic badly. Spend some time today benchmarking. Card running well. Since my last post I was hitting 1315 core 1900 memory with ease. I few guys over on Overclockers.net could not believe I was hitting 1900 memory without slowing down my benchmark. My Heaven benchmarks increased all the way to 1900Mhz. It was good to see Amdaberk hitting close to the same numbers. I was able to hit 1325 on a few runs, but not stable enough. 1320 core 1900 memory seems to work for my sample. Just a heads up, I am running Trixx overclocking software, the maximum core voltage allowed is a very high 1.5 Volts. 1.281V will allow you to hit 1310 core. 1.299 I can hit 1320 core.
I noticed Newegg doesnt have them listed any more. I'm sure they will recieve more...
Thanks for the update
I hope my retailer will get some stock in a reasonable timeframe.
May I ask you how VRM temps are?
OMG, sweet card, i want this one for sureeeeee.... Toxic with Ghz Edition (better binning?) and with huge size of gpu vram..
me wants two in x-fire baby!!
this is disaster, according to videocardz.com,it's reported that sapphire cancels toxic HD7970 6Gb
The source in that article is OBR roll, whoever takes that site's news as true must be a fool.
According to that site:
My point has been proven, OBR is biased and full of BS.
Your point? How dare you take ownership of that Most people know that OBR is nothing more than a blogger with an ego and an insatiable appetite for spreading shite.
Yes, for any legit tech site to quote OBR is akin to the The Guardian quoting the scribblings of a 12 year old with learning difficulties.
I meant this point
I know dude! And i wholeheartedly agree.
Sorry mate, I thought you skipped that line!
And who say it's not canceled? Kitguru, pro-AMD site.
Sapphire HD7970 Toxic 6GB limited edition? Please. Asus made 1000 Mars II. Sapphire? 10 maybe 12.
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