Lung cell images show how intense a coronavirus infection can be

[R-T-B]

How do you judge that?

@xkm1948 literally does this for a living. What's your criteria?

You have the wrong perspective.

Says who? You? Why should I care?

 

[mtcn77]

PS: don't try to discredit me. Find any other hobby.

@xkm1948 literally does this for a living. What's your criteria?

That is beside the point. Either stick with the topic, or don't. This is not an authority troll fest.

 

[R-T-B]

That is beside the point.

Not if you keep trying to disrupt the topic with your supposed expertise, it's not.

However, you are correct that it's pointless to discuss this further. I am sure it is apparent to readers what is going on here.

 

[mtcn77]

Not if you keep trying to disrupt the topic with your supposed expertise, it's not.

This is the main debate.
You guys are not up to feat in understanding what is what.

 

[R-T-B]

This is the main debate.
You guys are not up to feat in understanding what is what.

No, but you clearly are.

 

[mtcn77]

Who gets to inherit its genes determine the genepool. I'm sure it is pretty self-evident apart from those that are wearing darwin goggles and not scientifically attune.

 

[Aquinus]

@mtcn77 and @R-T-B please stop. You know that the powers that be are watching. Let's try to keep it civil, shall we?

 

[mtcn77]

No, but you clearly are.

I don't condone your behaviour, you seem upset and unable to discuss your views in an eloquent manner and seem to resort to derision. It is not okay, but very characteristic with your past actions.

 

[Caring1]

Regardless those images are eye watering in the reality of why people end up on respirators. I will be wearing a mask full time in public now too. If there is a vaccine that can clear that up I plan on taking that too. One thing I would suggest to everyone those still healthy enough is to try to run a mile a day and do a mucinex flush.

Fixed that.

 

[R-T-B]

@mtcn77 and @R-T-B please stop. You know that the powers that be are watching. Let's try to keep it civil, shall we?

Roger, I'm out. I try to sort facts from fiction. It's not personal for me but as it's taking that turn you are right, we're finished.

 

[mtcn77]

@mtcn77 and @R-T-B please stop. You know that the powers that be are watching. Let's try to keep it civil, shall we?

I discuss science. Those that be that are against it, please take the elegant way.

 

[Aquinus]

I discuss science. Those that be that are against it, please take the elegant way.

You're being rhetorical. @R-T-B isn't wrong when he says that you should listen to what people like @xkm1948 have to say, considering his day job deals with genomics.

All I'm saying is that you two need to behave. We're all adults here, right?

 

[claes]

I’m just reading gobbley gook at this point. If you’re going to claim to be the smartest person in the room please use complete sentences and grammatically correct language.

 

[R-T-B]

All I'm saying is that you two need to behave.

It's worth mentioning I am partially Autistic. A side effect of this is a loyalty to facts above people, well above what is often socially appropriate. Ending debates often happens well beyond what is appropriate for a "normal" viewing audience.

In that vein I appologize if I have overstepped.

 

[mtcn77]

Guys, Darwin didn't write "the selfish gene". Richard Dawkins did. At the time, Darwin wrote fables and stories while Mendel put forth foundations. Stop appropriating Mendel's science like they are the same thing. Mendel founded the genetics. You have to use his terms.
Just because you want it, you cannot put your own signpost on another intellectual property.

 

[yotano211]

Dude you are literally arguing with someone infinitely more qualified than you now. That tells me all I need to know.

I blocked him long time ago. Its best to do so.

 

[Tomgang]

Coronavirus is no joke and I don't understand people that do not take it seriously. Yes corona is not as deadly as Mers, but it is still 3 times more deadly than the normal flu and even people that survived and young, can have grim consequences even after recovery. Like tiredness, lower lung function, lose of taste and smell senses.

A friend of mine got corona last week and lost taste and smell sense from it. He is recovering from it now. But he's been told that it can take up to a year for his smell/taste sense to return. He is young and with any underlying illness.

So yeah corona is no joke. Specially for some people. I have respect for the virus, but don't fear it. I try to avoid to get it.

 

[xkm1948]

2020 and I am already used to this. My mom’s 60+ yrs old friends suddenly knows way more about viral genomics than me: microbiology M.S. Genetics PhD, works at a tier 1 research University on large scale genomic and epigenomics. But yeah, I might be the ignorant one.


Once again I dont want to get sucked in some crazy folks who already have their mind wrapped. It is the biological version of “flat earthers”

Science communication is not my strong suite. So I will try to make it as simple as I can.

RNA can and will mutate. Mutations happens when you make errors durimg RNA replication. No enzyme on this fking earth is perfect. There is ALWAYS error is replication that results in mis-base-pairing. RNA is worse in this sense as it is single strand and no way for correction enzymes to repair. RNA virus hinges on fast and dirty replication, compared to DNA virus’s accurate and slow replication. Think about the amount of viral particles replicated per cell, think about the number of human cells, by chance there will be tons of mutations. Any negative mutation will be selected out simply because they will fail to replicate. Whichever survives will be considered “successfully mutated and adapted”

I’m out.

 

[plat]

Those electron micrograph photos are taken of human lung cells in a lab? I shudder to think what an actual lung looks like in someone who is struggling to survive on a ventilator. I guess we have to make the intuitive leap and say that the images would be similar, if not identical.

Definitely not slacking off mask-wise. Maybe not until Summer of 2021 when the majority are vaccinated already (one hopes). Ironically, it's hard to breathe with this thing over my nose and mouth. The cloth gets saturated a lot.

 

[mtcn77]

Any negative mutation will be selected out simply because they will fail to replicate. Whichever survives will be considered “successfully mutated and adapted”

When you say it like that it means adapted to host, a.k.a tropism.
You are literally describing inheritance.
MD undergrad.

RNA is worse in this sense as it is single strand and no way for correction enzymes to repair.

This part is false, only retroviruses have no way to repair because they are negative strand transcribed(reverse transcriptase facilitated). It writes different codons than it starts with. It integrates to genome. When it is faulty, they aren't negatively selected out.

 

[xkm1948]

Believe what you want to believe. Not my duty to educate a pre-med undergrad nor would i want to waste my precious time arguing such things.

Good things medical school acceptance rate is so low so we can weed out the crazy ones.

 

[mtcn77]

I'm sure the prejudice goes back to Darwin.

 

[Kursah]

Friendly reminder from your neighborhood moderation team that going outside of constructive debate/discussion to personally attack, discredit or shame others is inappropriate and will be met with warnings and reply bans moving forward. We appreciate your cooperation.

 

[pcmasterrace]

Masks don't contain nor stop the spread of this super scary disease that we all have to hide from until our trusted governments tell us that we are all safe! stop the spread, wash your hands and wipe your bums!! BTW is it airborne yet? don't mix with people unless you have to fight for the last 2 rolls of toilet paper in the supermarket, or travel on a packed underground to get to work everyday, BUT..... it's not all doom and gloom because covid doesn't come out past 10pm or affect children in school even though they'e meant to be the superspreaders spreading super-covid and cocaine-fueled-hyper-covidXXL edition that has been found only minutes ago!!! time to go into tier 11 immediately people, godspeed and godbless during these horrible times.

 

[R-T-B]

Shaming is not my goal, only establishing qualifications.

To be clear, I'm as unqualified as Joes hotdog shack on this matter, and there is no shame in recognizing that. That's why I pinged elsewhere.

I blocked him long time ago. Its best to do so.

Autism at work; don't block anyone. Confuses me.