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M4A785-M + Phenom 550BE overclocked

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It's not a bad board for the money. Plenty of options and bios updates.
 

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Regarding AsRock,

It depends on which board you choose.

@Mohawk

Drop your ram divider a notch and tighten the timings some. You will notice things will be a little bit more snappy.

On that board you can do it but i wont its ok for me like that. also the ram divider not sure i can change it on my board. anyway im ok like that and wont go further. im seeking energy saving so i installed EPU-4 of asus at same time to lower the voltage and power of everything.
 

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Big disapointment =/. I set the IGP (onboard GPU) core clock to 1000mhz :D... but after few test in fps in Hon (game i play) i get same fps as core at 500mhz. wtf?

i try it out in Perforamnce test 64 bits. I ran the 3d graphic test. 500mhz vs 1000 mhz total result was 107 vs 130 =/ not big improve. And more disapointing in the {3d graphic directX10 result} it was 0.94 vs 0.96 o_O.

Can anyone pls explain me this results pls?
and why my game didnt get any better fps? (with IGP clock core at 1000mhz vs 500mhz)
 

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why use integrated video anyways
 

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hows 3.7ghz 1.4750v with the asus board not to shabby eh guys, 3.8ghz if switched to dual core at 1.4v i think
 

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board wont go past 3.8 stable at any voltage not sure if its os related or motherboard bios related
 

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Corduroy can you post all sentences in one post and using the Edit function please instead of 3 posts for 3 shorts ones. It pollutes the thread for nothing and overload the forum for nothing also.

Thanx
 

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hows 3.7ghz 1.4750v with the asus board not to shabby eh guys, 3.8ghz if switched to dual core at 1.4v i think

post a cpu-z screen shot... How's the board temp? The biggest problem with this board and getting a high OC is there is just one Heatsink over the NB instead of wrapping around the CPU to cool the mosfets down also. I noticed when I hit over 3GHz the NB HS was BURNING HOT. There isn't much cooling for this board which bugs me. :shadedshu
 

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Depending on how muckh voltage you push in the NB. I have a 550be 3.1 gigs and handle well at 1.325 volts stock even at 100%. Of course if you push the voltage to the max to get the power on smaller cpu then youll get the heat :)
 

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Depending on how much voltage you push in the NB. I have a 550be 3.1 gigs and handle well at 1.325 volts stock even at 100%. Of course if you push the voltage to the max to get the power on smaller cpu then youll get the heat :)

Why does my Athlon run @ 1.382 volts @ 2.6GHz ? What is the stock voltage for the Athlon II X4 620 ? Right now I have it all set to AUTO not OCing anything and my voltage is @ 1.382 ....
 

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Put my CPU @ 1.325 volts and temps dropped drastically! Sitting @ 32-34c now. 100% stable. AUTO sets it at 1.392-1.40 volts and kept my temps up in the high 30's, low 40's. Now to play around and see how high of an OC I can get at a lower voltage.
 

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Well @ 2.8GHz and 1.325v and still stable and @ 36c (room temp is a bit warmer than usual) about 74F.
 

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Sweeper,

On your chip see if you have the letter "CACYC" on it. It may be a Deneb with L3 cache disabled.
 
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Sweeper,

On your chip see if you have the letter "CACYC" on it. It may be a Deneb with L3 cache disabled.

theres no disabled L3 it has the full 6mb
 

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With the new bios flash I can unleash up to 6 cores. It only has 4 cores and no L3 Cache. How would I check to see if there is a CACYC on it? Would the box with the SN# etc. show it? I really don't want to pull the HSF off.

Deneb, quad-core, 6 MB or 4 MB L3 cache (2.4 to 3.4 GHz)
Heka, triple-core, 6 MB L3 cache (2.4 to 3.0 GHz)
Callisto, dual-core, 6 MB L3 cache (3.0 to 3.1 GHz)
Propus, quad-core, no L3 cache (2.6+ GHz)
Rana, triple-core, no L3 cache (2.7+ GHz)
Regor, dual-core, no L3 cache (2.8 to 3.0 GHz)
 

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There is no physical L3 Cache on the Propus die. I've run ACC and ran through the BIOS with a Manual unlock of up to 6 Cores (due to the bios update) and it shows nothing per the L3 Cache. It's just NOT there physically.

HERE is the link to the "Propus" that was found to have an unlockable L3 Cache. Problem is the CPU was dated 2008 with a AACYC AC 0923EPMW stamping on the chip. Looks like it was a L3 disabled deneb.
 
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AA CYC AC 0923EPMW stamping on the chip. Looks like it was a L3 disabled deneb.

That's what i was talking about. Nice try for the unlock though.
 

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update for ... ? The die? My last findings were FACT. There is no physical L3 Cache on the Propus die.
 

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