Mass Effect 2 Details :)

[kurosagi01]

i got my guide from this:
http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/...how_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-53288653&pid=944907

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I know this works:
-Tech: Tali or Legion
-1st Squad: Garrus or Miranda
-Escort: Thane
-2nd Squad: Garrus or Miranda
-Biotic: Morinth/Samara or Jack


For me, Mordin may have died because of Jacob. Jacob made it through the the door alright but that's not to say someone didn't get mortally wounded under his command. I'm going to test that theory...

 

[kurosagi01]

Best i would say for the plan is..
Hacker: Tali or Legion
2nd Squad Leader: Garrus
Barrier: Samara
Escort: Grunt/Mordin(maybe)
2nd squad Leader: Garrus again
And just tell all your team to guard the door and pick your 2 team mate to fight the terminator lol.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I changed Jacob to Miranda (a known working combination) and Mordin still died. I have no idea why.

All your team always stays behind to guard the door no matter the option you pick (at least that's how Miranda's dialogs make it sound). I'll try the other option and see if Mordin survives.


I also double checked Mordin: he is loyal and he does have his tech upgrade. No idea why it would always randomly pick him to die.


Edit: I did the paragon answer on that one ("Someone has to hold this door" instead of "We'd better hurry") and Mordin still died. I have no idea why.

 

[Muhad]

Need some help - possible spoiler

I am on the Collector shipping fighting throught it and at one location on one of the flying tables there is a firey spot on the table floor that my teammates never stop shooting at and it never stops the fire. It says on the screen Abomination. What is going on?

 

[kurosagi01]

I changed Jacob to Miranda (a known working combination) and Mordin still died. I have no idea why.

All your team always stays behind to guard the door no matter the option you pick (at least that's how Miranda's dialogs make it sound). I'll try the other option and see if Mordin survives.


I also double checked Mordin: he is loyal and he does have his tech upgrade. No idea why it would always randomly pick him to die.


Edit: I did the paragon answer on that one ("Someone should stay and guard the door" instead of "We need to get out of here") and Mordin still died. I have no idea why.

Maybe you should try taking Mordin with you as your team at the end and see what happens from there?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I am on the Collector shipping fighting throught it and at one location on one of the flying tables there is a firey spot on the table floor that my teammates never stop shooting at and it never stops the fire. It says on the screen Abomination. What is going on?

The abomination apparently fell through the floor. I've had that happen to me with a LOKI Mech. Load your most recent save.

Maybe you should try taking Mordin with you as your team at the end and see what happens from there?

I'll try that soon. I have a feeling someone else will die in his place though.


BTW: 1.01 patch is apparently out.

* Fixed video hitching and crashes related to single core machines:
- Single core users may experience short periods of black screen that may last up a few seconds between level loads, cinematic transitions or movies
- In rare cases, some single core users may notice dialog lines in certain conversations may be delayed up to a few seconds
* Fixed an issue where it appears ammunition can be picked up, but can't
* Fixed an issue where all Codex entries were marked as 'viewed', even if the player chose not to view them
* Fixed an issue where weapon icons are re-organized after downloadable content is used
* Fixed an issue where pressing F9 after the mission completion screen reset Shepard to Level 1
* Fixed an issue where remapping the right mouse button blocks camera control in the command HUD
* Fixed an issue where remapping the 'use' command affects the decryption minigame
* Fixed an issue where users were not prompted to restart when logging in to a different EA Online account
* Fixed an issue where movies do not play in DLC
* It is recommended that players reset their keyboard mapping to default values to ensure proper vehicle control
* Added useful messaging during the ME1 save game import
* Weapon icon for henchmen never changes from Collector Assault Rifle
* Czech language Issues with Czech localization (subtitles) were amended, all text was corrected and improved
* Fixed an issue where the Mass Effect 2 launcher was being associated with files that have no extension

It only fixes one of my issues.

Download links:
http://social.bioware.com/page/me2-patches?lang_id=1&path=masseffect2/pc/launcher/banner3/en/
http://www.fileplanet.com/210098/210000/fileinfo/Mass-Effect-2---Patch-v1.01
http://news.bigdownload.com/2010/02/22/download-mass-effect-2-v1-01-patch/
http://www.filefront.com/15655603/Mass-Effect-2-v1.01-Patch/

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Maybe you should try taking Mordin with you as your team at the end and see what happens from there?

I'll try that soon. I have a feeling someone else will die in his place though.

Weird. I took Mordin with me and no one died. Go figure. I think it has to be a bug--some answer I gave throughout the game made him unloyal when he should have remained loyal.

 

[Mussels]

theres more to it than just loyalty.

For example, two of my party members had a bitch fest - with renegade/paragon options i could make both happy, but one time i couldnt and one left pissed off - even with the loyalty mission done, i lost their bonus.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Yeah, but Mordin doesn't get in a fight with anyone except that other Salarian in his loyalty mission. I let Mordin kill him and I doubt that would cause Mordin to die in the finale. Nothing stands out as something that would cause him to die--that's what is odd. By the way, I took Zaaed and Grunt with me every time except that last time which was Mordin and Grunt.

So... taking the Renegade path (only lower left, lower right, and middle right options, in that order), it is possible to save everyone except the crew.

 

[Mussels]

maybe that's it - i didn't let him kill the guy, perhaps that was the 'correct' choice to make.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

But that was a Paragon/interfere action. If that resulted in Mordin getting killed in the end, shouldn't...

Spoiler

Garrus die if you let him kill Sidonis, Jack die if you let her kill Aresh, and Miranda die if you let her kill Niket?

Mordin appears to be the exception, not the norm.

 

[Mussels]

But that was a Paragon/interfere action. If that resulted in Mordin getting killed in the end, shouldn't...

Spoiler

Garrus die if you let him kill Sidonis, Jack die if you let her kill Aresh, and Miranda die if you let her kill Niket?

Mordin appears to be the exception, not the norm.

it could be different per character, or it could be a combination of things. thats why ME2 is fun!

 

[ktr]

Well you want the best person for the right job. The game hints you on who they are. But make sure you have their loyalty, or else they will die. Simple as that.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Clearly, it is not. Make all characters loyal and pick the right people for each portion of the suicide mission and some still die. There's more than selection and loyalty involved--unless it is a bug.

 

[Easo]

From what i understand, there is a hidden random chance for someone dying,

 

[kurosagi01]

well getting their loyalty and doing paragon interface at all times to stop them from doing something they regret like killing this person will get them to how you say.."live" at the end.
Thats how i managed to get all of mine to live.
Also if you didn't manage to do paragon chat to miranda and jack then when your paragon at max you can apologise to either of them and get their loyalty back that way.
And choosing whos is who in the final battle is quite important.

 

[HolyCow02]

Am I the only person that didn't get Samara's loyalty? Her damn daughter shrugged me off, the bitch. I'm Shepard ffs! No woman can deny him! She is the only one I didn't get loyalty from. Hell I even let Zaeed's nemesis get away and still got his loyalty.

 

[Divide Overflow]

Loyalty and who you choose for what mission is huge, but it's not the only thing that factors into their survival. Having as many of the appropriate upgrades that they use also factors in. Spending the time, effort and resources to pick up those bonuses does mean something! Those who race straight to end game may find there is a cost compared to those who take the time to prepare.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Am I the only person that didn't get Samara's loyalty? Her damn daughter shrugged me off, the bitch.

Spoiler

After you choose between Samara and Morinth, which ever you picked should become loyal. As far as I know, there's no way to complete that loyalty mission and not get the loyalty of one or the other.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I talked to someone who had Mordin loyal on Xbox 360 but also died during the final battle. He, too, let Mordin kill the Salarian. Apparently there is a bug where if Mordin kills the Salerian, he dies at the end unless you take him with you for the final battle.

 

[Yukikaze]

I talked to someone who had Mordin loyal on Xbox 360 but also died during the final battle. He, too, let Mordin kill the Salarian. Apparently there is a bug where if Mordin kills the Salerian, he dies at the end unless you take him with you for the final battle.

In my first playthrough, Mordin was loyal, he killed the Salarian, I did not take him to the final battle and he survived the mission - twice (Once for the ending where the station is destroyed, once for the ending where it isn't).

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I'm pretty sure there's something specific that triggers it but I can't narrow down what it is. It appears to not be whether or not to save the data.

 

[phanbuey]

In my first playthrough, Mordin was loyal, he killed the Salarian, I did not take him to the final battle and he survived the mission - twice (Once for the ending where the station is destroyed, once for the ending where it isn't).

i did too... mordin also lives for me :/

i think... i didnt see him die, so i guess that means he's still alive lol.

Spoiler

Everyone lived for me on my first playthrough... and I was pure evil. I let everyone kill everyone... didnt give anyone a medpack, the one exception being me sending Grunt along with the survivors.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

The scene where he dies is just after the one where you pick debris off your two teammates. You see him lying on the ground and a Collector steps over him. Immediately after that, you see the swarm of those bugs coming at you and your team runs for the Normandy.