The hate in this thread is mind boggling.
For the people that say we should not pre-order
In the end, it is called capitalism. People have the money, they buy what they want.
You have a rather broad definition of hate, then. People are just having some fun, and rightly so IMO. Does that mean you should die in German car fire for buying a VW, no, that was way out of context as well to me (and a failing car analogy, too, like most of them). But you have to admit, people were warned. Seeing them ignore warnings and burn for bad decision making today does indeed bring a smile to my face. Nobody died here, people just have to RMA some GPUs and Nvidia has to write off 0.0001% on their annual report. Chill out. 'What about the people'... lol. So sentimental
Part of capitalism is also taking your loss and owning your mistakes. 'Don't pre order', almost a standard punchline when it comes to basically everything that has to do with gaming and its hardware. 'Wait for reviews'. 'Don't be an early adopter of RTX'. People were warned, and failed to heed the warning, and we are now looking at a higher than normal percentage of DOAs. RTX is not beneficial for gaming or gamers at large, thus far, or at all. If a few people have to feel a bit unpleasant because they bought one, that is a small loss to me. This overpriced tech needs to die. We don't have the silicon die space available for 20% of dedicated ray tracing bullshit. And the large, low yield 2080ti die is a perfect example of that - it needs to be priced over 1K and what you get is a dead product.
Again, your reading comprehension downright sucks
Yep, I see a whole lot of that lately, and TPU is no exception. People read five words and think they can guess the rest of a paragraph. Weird, but true. Its easy to come to the conclusion that the world is based on extremes when people only read the buzz words that stand out to them.
It gets downright sad when that is how people form opinions, though, and funnily that also ties into the rise of (extreme) right wing governments worldwide. A lack of comprehension of all things, really. I guess its because the world gets ever more complicated.
because a Vega 64 is close enough to a 1080Ti (thus above a 2070 level ) and they are priced lower than a 1080Ti or a 2080 (which both are 900 to 1400chf for me ) and because RTX improvement are minima while the price is maxima
not really a baby step in the current situation, nor a waste of money imho compared to a RTX 20XX acquisition
if i did specify a Vega 56 i would understand
(tho i wouldn't mind either ... after all i did Swap a 290X for a 980 before getting that 1070 in insurance replacement of the 980 when she got fried due to a thunderstorm )
I think you might want to double check those benchmarks you looked at, because Vega 64 is nowhere remotely close to a 1080ti. Not even OC versus stock. Its essentially a 1080, and if you are lucky and get a superb model you might hit 1080 OC performance. If it was close to a 1080ti it wouldn't have failed as it did.