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Meet the Odyssey Neo G7 43" — The First Mini-LED Flat Gaming Monitor From Samsung Electronics

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guys 43" is completely doable as a desktop monitor, but its the max, i think somewhere around 38" should be ideal. 32" is great too ofc, there is the innocn 1152 miniled ips

27" is ideal for desktop usage unless you are viewing from far away. 43" is way too big to the point where it'll caused neck and eye strain. At the same viewing distances with a 43" vs a 27", on the 43" you're eyes are going to be moving a lot more due to the increased screen size. This additional movement takes time as well. This is why most competitive gamers use a 24 to 25" monitor. The majority of your vision's resolution is in the center, aka where you are focusing. This is why foveated rendering is a thing. That said productivity drops on smaller monitor sizes when you have a more complicated workflow. 27" monitors are a good balance as they allow a reasonable amount of complexity while keeping the size down to reduce travel distance and strain. 32 - 34" is acceptable for complicated workflows, either in 16:9 / 16:10 or ultrawide formats. 43" inches though, that's just too big. This size would only make sense in ultra-wide format as that avoids the neck strain issues and the display can format media like games with bars on the side to reduce eye travel distance. In this size class it's the only way to go for desktop monitors excepting those that view from further away.

What I don't understand with monitor manufacturers is why tf they don't put an eARC socket on their products. Dolby Atmos soundbars are very widespread these days. It'd be nice to be able to plug one in and turn on passthrough. Because if you have a separate cable from the GPU going into an atmos soundbar, Windows sees the soundbar as a 2nd monitor. But if you run the cable from the GPU to the monitor then use a 2nd HDMI from the monitor's eARC (just like u would with a TV), there is no 2nd 'phantom' monitor. Coz lets face, If you're gaming on a setup with a 4K high Hz monitor + a top of the line gaming rig, you're not gonna want to use crappy 20w built-in speakers to ruin the immersion. It's better with a top notch headset or an atmos soundbar.

You should try the VRZ model one. The only headphones I know of that can match a speak setup's spatial quality while still having all the advantages of closed back headphones.

It's quite good sitting 3ft away once you get used to it, my eyes are less tired than they were with a 32" 4k 60hz and no neck pain from unnecessary head movements.

MSRP of this Samsung will of course be 8k$ :D

What's the point of a bigger monitor if you are going to sit further back and in effect make it the same as a smaller monitor? Might as well have bought a smaller monitor and avoid neck and eye issues in the first place.

This is almost entirely your subjective opinion. Also cost is likely the reason for low market demand. Not many “gamers” are dropping 1k plus on monitors regardless, 27” OLED not being an exception.

People also use their monitors for more than just gaming. I know! It’s a WILD concept. Until burn in isn’t a thing and pixel layout diminishing text quality is fixed, OLED is not universally better. Mini LED is a great option for those looking for a middle ground, unfortunately there aren’t many good options.

His monitor size and usage figures are pretty true to what we know about monitors. The larger the monitor, the more your eyes have to travel (which causes eye fatigue and wastes time). In addition, above 32" at normal viewing distracted you introduce neck strain. The advantage of larger monitors is that you can handle more complex tasks with larger monitors. 24-25" is enough for simple things like games, 27" is good for moderate complexity tasks, and 32-34 is enough size for more advanced workflows. Of course you can go larger but it only makes sense if you are viewing from farther away or using an ultrawide (which is far more versatile then a fat 43").
 
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So...a mini tv with LEDs, right?
4.3 inch?
 
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The Odyssey Neo G7 43" is also known, confusingly, as the G70NC and the S43CG70. Why does Samsung keep doing this?

Inputs include DP 1.4 (which means it can't do 4K144 at 4:4:4, it's limited to 4K120 at full color) and "HDMI 2.1" which is now a meaningless number because the term "HDMI 2.0" has been deprecated and so now every HDMI 2.x port is called HDMI 2.1 (yes this is true). So unless a spec says "HDMI 2.1 4K120 4:4:4" or "HDMI 2.1 48Gbps" then you can assume it's HDMI 2.0.

This could still be interesting if it's $699 or less but that seems super unlikely (the LG C2 42" is $899 at the moment).
 
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"Our innovations are enabling gamers everywhere to stay absorbed in their games with visual performance that enhances the intense emotional experiences."

LoLz, daaaaang, i want an intense emotional experience!

This is basically a nice way of saying "Baby Gamer Rage" i.e. :


So when they say "intense emotional experiences" they mean this petulant, slightly disturbing, yet hilarious, shit right here :D :roll:
 
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Nice, but not what i'm looking for my next monitor (38 ultrawide, FLAT and microled)
 
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What I don't understand with monitor manufacturers is why tf they don't put an eARC socket on their products. Dolby Atmos soundbars are very widespread these days. It'd be nice to be able to plug one in and turn on passthrough. Because if you have a separate cable from the GPU going into an atmos soundbar, Windows sees the soundbar as a 2nd monitor. But if you run the cable from the GPU to the monitor then use a 2nd HDMI from the monitor's eARC (just like u would with a TV), there is no 2nd 'phantom' monitor. Coz lets face, If you're gaming on a setup with a 4K high Hz monitor + a top of the line gaming rig, you're not gonna want to use crappy 20w built-in speakers to ruin the immersion. It's better with a top notch headset or an atmos soundbar.

I mean the answer is obvious, because it's a monitor lol. But truth be told if they're already recycling TVs into monitors anyway and even adding their crapy smart bullshit as "features" might as well also put eARC there. And they could just sell the tv with a different box as well, no need for the ugly GaMeR plastics.

Something to take into account is if graphics cards would support eARC without problems. I never tried but those kind of things can often be a nightmare (seeing a soundbar as a display is already an indication of that). As you don't need HDCP on pc you could always use a simple 10$ splitter (i don't know if there are any 2.1 compliant ones though)

"HDMI 2.1" which is now a meaningless number because the term "HDMI 2.0" has been deprecated and so now every HDMI 2.x port is called HDMI 2.1 (yes this is true). So unless a spec says "HDMI 2.1 4K120 4:4:4" or "HDMI 2.1 48Gbps" then you can assume it's HDMI 2.0.

Not even that is enough as all HDMI 2.1 are optional, be it bandwidth, ALLM, VRR, etc. all optional. The current situation is really a fucking joke, so far it has not been as bad as it could get but give it a few months/years and the situation can quickly become a circus.
 
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So not true HDR... On a monitor this size... With this resolution... At this price point...
 
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What? Half the monitors they release are UW. More non-curved 16:9 the better!
Have I mentioned curved monitors?

so far it has not been as bad as it could get but give it a few months/years and the situation can quickly become a circus.
It is a circus right now. Asus and others advertise a monitor or HDMI port as "HDMI 2.1 4K/60". It's absurd. It has already gone as bad as USB...
 
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So not true HDR...

It's mini led fald so should be very usable, HDR600 just means they decided to not crank the brightness super high to meet HDR1000 which is equaly meaningless. It will be far better than edge lighting but obviously much worse than OLED. It will also not need to be careful with to avoid burn in so there's that.

At this price point...

Unless I missed something we don't know that yet. It is 43'' after all but people at Samsung must know they're competing with LG OLEDs at this size so it can't be that expensive
 
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i game hardcore games like Valorant, Overwatch and huntshowdown and sometimes BFBC2
on Acer Predator 43" 120Hz 4K ~100 fps
and its a blessing

 
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Valorant is hardcore?
 
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Even the PR emphasizes a lot of the problems with monitors of this size. I had to google “flex move screen” because I was how like “how the hell did they find a way to reduce its size at this price point?” That’d be bad ass, but samsung literally designed a solution to use 46% of your monitor so you could experience fuller immersion while not using 54% of the monitor (which, oddly, displays your desktop in the background rather than going dim?).
 
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Hey, the ppi should be great at least :p
 
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"Our innovations are enabling gamers everywhere to stay absorbed in their games with visual performance that enhances the intense emotional experiences."

LoLz, daaaaang, i want an intense emotional experience!

Did you not see the price? :p
 

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Hey and not even by telling a good story - nono you get it from the visual performance!! "Omg that black level, Im gonna cry! "
Just imagine the BSOD quality on one of these ;)
 
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"Our innovations are enabling gamers everywhere to stay absorbed in their games with visual performance that enhances the intense emotional experiences."

LoLz, daaaaang, i want an intense emotional experience!
Just grab a hammer and apply it to a finger or two ...or, if you're feeling really adventurous, your nut sack. Intense emotional experience guaranteed. Also cheaper. :p
 

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HDR is a requirement for casual gaming?



I would honestly want to try such a big monitor. That way it could actually double as a TV.

I am not sure many casuals buy 1000-2000-3000 dollar monitors, 43 inch for a TV? Way too small. 43 inch for a monitor? Way too big. I use 27 inch for gaming and my TV is 65 inch + 83 inch. QD-OLED + WOLED.

This is almost entirely your subjective opinion. Also cost is likely the reason for low market demand. Not many “gamers” are dropping 1k plus on monitors regardless, 27” OLED not being an exception.

People also use their monitors for more than just gaming. I know! It’s a WILD concept. Until burn in isn’t a thing and pixel layout diminishing text quality is fixed, OLED is not universally better. Mini LED is a great option for those looking for a middle ground, unfortunately there aren’t many good options.

Yeah serious work usually requires professional monitors as well, that is what I am using for my work PC. This is a gaming monitor. So yep, made for gaming, not work.

Why would you need LCD with Mini LED backlighting for work tho? haha if you want precision, there's many better monitors than this, made for actual work.

Mini LED has issues as well; Input lag is very high when all zones are being controlled on point. This is why Mini LED is a gimmick for fast gaming monitors, because zones are disabled or bumped down ALOT in actual game mode, or games will feel like VSYNC ON = Huge input delay.

There's gaming mini LED monitors that have sky high input lag when HDR is enabled, and this is because ALL ZONES are pretty much disabled outside of HDR.

Many TVs with Mini LED backlighting has decent image quality outside of game mode, but looks kinda bad in game mode. OLED shines in both.

I have used OLED for years when it comes to TVs. LCD is simply trash in comparison. I need more OLED monitors for sure. Could not care less about a small risk of burn-in when LCD has TONS of issues on day one. LCD is simply dated tech and I can't wait to replace my last LCD panels; My gaming monitor and laptop. EVERYTHING ELSE have been OLED for years and I have never seen burn-in on any OLED panel that I owned.
 
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How? Ergonomy says you shouldn't look up to upper part of your monitor, it's bad for your neck. And screen height of 43" is approx. 54 cm, that's way larger than common large monitor - 32", which has screen height of 40 cm.

So for my height (182 cm) at low desk height of 70 cm there is only 55 cm to sitting eye level (125 cm) and recommended height of the top of monitor - so 43" monitor would have to literraly lie on the desk, and it would still be too high.
Wait till he finds out I have a 48" OLED screen 36" away. I still fit the screen in the two-eye area. it's fantastic for productivity although I want to put it on an arm in the future.
 
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It's 43'' so not really, it has about the same ppi as a "regular size" 1080p ~24'' or 1440p ~27''
It’d be just under 20” but you’re right something stupid like 100 ppi
 
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