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OFFICIAL Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (Review)

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Introduction

So this is what happens when Hideo Kojima creates his own Swansong. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is the successor to Prologue Ground Zeroes, taking place nine years after Motherbase is destroyed by a group of generally ugly/crazy gentlemen. TPP is a lot different to every other MGS game ever made though. I've played every game in the series, including the PSP titles, and I can very boldly state, this is not like the rest. The few core control mechanics are there, hell the cardboard box is still here, but TPP is most definitely a whole new world as far as Snake is concerned. This pushes the boundaries, past invisible walls and a largely linear set of game areas, and drops you into Afghanistan, where the ten square kilometres are your oyster. It's also an extremely dense game. I've spent almost twenty hours in-game as of writing this intro, and my progress sits steadily just below twenty percent. This is a very very large MGS game. It's a whole lot of different, and that excites me a great deal.

To read the full review, go to: http://www.nextpowerup.com/articles/metal-gear-solid-v-review/
To read the performance analysis, go to: http://www.nextpowerup.com/articles/metal-gear-solid-v-performance-analysis/

To watch me bob my head to Take on Me by A1, see the MGS V Review video below:

 

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Great review, thanks! I was all set to see if you were going to state in the hardware recommendation that a 4GB Maxwell was necessary at 1080p was needed, but I'm relieved you didn't. 780 it is!

Despite the 3.3GB VRAM usage, I still haven't had any trouble with my 3GB 780 at all. Looks like there is still some life in the old girl!
 
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Sorry, had to stop watching the vid at just over 4:30, because yes it IS as bad as you made it out to be regarding poor keyboard support, and esp NO mouse look support.

I knew before watching this you can't walk with KB, but I hadn't realized that meant no stealth. And no mouse look support is just inexcusable.

What are they thinking? I know Japanese made games often have poor controls, esp on PC, but jeez, even RE4 Ultimate HD has full KB/M support.

So basically the two late summer games I was patiently looking forward to (Mad Max, MGSV) are not seeming worth it to me. One has lots of repetition and mind numbing simplicity, the other a fine looking game save for having to play with a controller, which any self respecting PC player that hates gamepads like I do would utterly refuse to comply with.

I've read recently that less than 7% of total sales for this title are on PC, not surprising. Plus some are saying even if you don't have a controller connected it's showing Start, X, RB, etc. What a mess.

It seems the user ratings on Metacritic are more accurate than the raves on Steam. There ought to be a global petition going by now demanding better PC support.
 
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Another great review @RCoon, very nicely done.

I had skipped to the conclusion at first, and this rest made me chuckle:

Tutorial is two hours of cut scenes

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I hope they do some serious patching by the time I buy it. I would have loved to play Ground Zeroes with keyboard and mouse but the lack of configuration options makes that a non-starter. I didn't care for the controller controls either because they're rather disjointed. The option not to configure those (or at least a configuration that is more consistent with games of this genre) is also disheartening. If they just spent a week or two cleaning up the consolitis, it would be a great game. :(
 

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Nice review @RCoon
I received this game with the purchase of my GTX 980 Ti and tried to play it - and then gave up quickly. Agree with every part of the review.
 
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Wait...no mouse look? As in you can't use the mouse to look around or point where to go when moving forward? Can't watch the review as I am at work but that is BS.
 

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Wait...no mouse look? As in you can't use the mouse to look around or point where to go when moving forward? Can't watch the review as I am at work but that is BS.

I am able to look around with my mouse.
 

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In Ground Zeroes, I switched to keyboard and mouse for heavy gun fights and controller for the stealth parts. It is fundamentally a shooter game so my preference would be to use the keyboard and mouse all of the time.
 
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Wait...no mouse look? As in you can't use the mouse to look around or point where to go when moving forward? Can't watch the review as I am at work but that is BS.

There is mouse look. Camera control is just plain weird when on horseback and in vehicles, because when sprinting you have to juggle too many buttons to see where you're going. It's more of an issue on controller though.
 
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I've played some Metal Gear Solid years ago as demo and it was 3D from top down like Commandos. I kinda got hyped about this game, but I don't own PlayStation.

Can I start with this franchise with Ground Zeroes and I'll get updated on happenings from before or not?
 

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I've played some Metal Gear Solid years ago as demo and it was 3D from top down like Commandos. I kinda got hyped about this game, but I don't own PlayStation.

Can I start with this franchise with Ground Zeroes and I'll get updated on happenings from before or not?

I think so. Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain were designed I feel to introduce people to the series who never played before.
 
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well no.. you won't get the info most of users see that finished all the titles like me... For this game you must finish first MGS, You can skip the second one then the Snake Eater is a must and then PSP Peace Walker in order to understand the whole drama... how snake ended up there :D

And the real who is who... basing on all Fox Hound chars that later appear... well I don't think snake is snake here... and who is skull face...
 
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well no.. you won't get the info most of users see that finished all the titles like me... For this game you must finish first MGS, You can skip the second one then the Snake Eater is a must and then PSP Peace Walker in order to understand the whole drama... how snake ended up there :D

LOL! We gave totally opposite answers. What I meant was, alot is explained in the current 2, and what isn't doesn't really affect your gameplay, so that's why I felt they are great for people that never got a chance to play the older titles.
 
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LOL! We gave totally opposite answers. What I meant was, alot is explained in the current 2, and what isn't doesn't really affect your gameplay, so that's why I felt they are great for people that never got a chance to play the older titles.

Well first MGS exists for PC. Go dig up some retro PC. The Snake Eater works fine on PS2 emulator... it looks nice there also... you will be sucked fast really. And the games ain't bad.

Well for example... the burning guy.. it is like Volgin and his powers... Quiet resembles photosythesis like sniper The End from MGS3... there are many things tied together... They are really hard to crack.
 
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I kinda like sneaking games like Deus Ex and Splinter Cell. I assume MGS is similar?

Well MGS was the mother of them actually... :D
 

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My two cents is its very good im also happy to be able to ultra it on my rig which needs an upgrade in the gpu department imho.
I completed 1 and 2 but none since and until i read this thread i was following the story ok, now i think i have missed out a bit.
Has anyone done any noteworthy recap vids on YouTube?, with the hundreds of hours possible on phantom pain i couldn't fit in the others, or hmmn new phone have i, emu u say.
 

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I liked the review. I also liked the joke where negative point is "lots of screen tearing with vsync off" ... it was a joke, right?
That being said, it's time for the constructive criticism :D I'd like to see vsync off when doing performance benchmarks because reasons.
 
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Any word on a PC patch to cure consolitis, because without it, I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass.
 
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Any word on a PC patch to cure consolitis, because without it, I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass.

You mean frame lock? There is a ini hack that works from Ground Zeroes I guess.
 
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Power Supply SeaSonic Vertex 1200w Gold
Mouse Razer Basilisk V3
Keyboard Bloody B840-LK
Software Windows 11 Pro 23H2
You mean frame lock? There is a ini hack that works from Ground Zeroes I guess.

Actually no, the least I worry about when it comes to poor porting is frame lock, because usually there's an easy file edit workaround. Worse case scenario is they issue a patch like Tango did with TEW, because most PC players if it's not hackable shout their disapproval and it gets changed.

I'm talking about the horrid control scheme restrictions we were discussing above regarding not being able to even walk using a keyboard (which kills stealth), and mouse support could be a lot better. The control menu or readout is also very consolized apparently. I've read that the menu doesn't support mouse and even if you have no gamepad connected you'll see Start, LT, X, Y etc.

This is just pathetic for a massive AAA title to crap on PC to this level.
 
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