• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Micro Stutter/Lag when Gpuz is open

jayjaykay

New Member
Joined
Mar 24, 2021
Messages
4 (0.00/day)
So i changed the thermal paste and pads on my MSI R9 390 and refitted in. Ran unigine heaven benchmark to see the change in temperature.

normally i use hwmonitor to see the gpu temperature. but i opened gpuz this time and noticed a micro stutter at an interval of 3-4 seconds continuously until i had gpuz open.

i cleaned the pcie slot, DDu ed the driver but then as i gave up and started playing a game without gpuz i realised that it was cause.

could this be something related to GPUz using the gpu sensors??

temperature seems normal while gaming Gpu@81c Vrm 1@75c and vrm2@65c.

any help?
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
27,031 (3.71/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Memory 48 GB
Video Card(s) RTX 4080
Storage 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 10 64-bit
could this be something related to GPUz using the gpu sensors??
yeah that's possible. turn them off in settings and see if that makes a difference, maybe you can even identify the exact sensor causing the issue
 

jayjaykay

New Member
Joined
Mar 24, 2021
Messages
4 (0.00/day)
yeah that's possible. turn them off in settings and see if that makes a difference, maybe you can even identify the exact sensor causing the issue
thanks for the reply. I tried disabling all the sensors...the problem still persists....any suggestions?

tried closing radeon software through task manager..no help there either.
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
27,031 (3.71/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Memory 48 GB
Video Card(s) RTX 4080
Storage 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 10 64-bit
Do you have any other monitoring software running?
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
7,285 (3.86/day)
System Name Bragging Rights
Processor Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz
Motherboard It has no markings but it's green
Cooling No, it's a 2.2W processor
Memory 2GB DDR3L-1333
Video Card(s) Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz)
Storage 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3
Display(s) 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz
Case Veddha T2
Audio Device(s) Apparently, yes
Power Supply Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger
Mouse MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though....
Software W10 21H1, barely
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
Bumping for interest. I don't run any now but annoying microstuttering was a big problem for the R9 series cards. System tray software and background monitoring were often the culprit but I never always found the cause and just assumed it was a Windows service.

The fact that the problem never happened on newer cards like the RX480, even in the same systems makes me feel that the 2nd/3rd gen GCN driver was overly sensitive.
 

jayjaykay

New Member
Joined
Mar 24, 2021
Messages
4 (0.00/day)
Bumping for interest. I don't run any now but annoying microstuttering was a big problem for the R9 series cards. System tray software and background monitoring were often the culprit but I never always found the cause and just assumed it was a Windows service.

The fact that the problem never happened on newer cards like the RX480, even in the same systems makes me feel that the 2nd/3rd gen GCN driver was overly sensitive.

i am thinking the same. some background service should be the culprit.

the next obvious step :D is to reinstall the windows. might do it tonight. i ll let you know the outcome.
 
Joined
Apr 28, 2011
Messages
1,066 (0.22/day)
Location
Botevgrad, Bulgaria, Europe
System Name Main PC/OldPC/3rd PC
Processor Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge/Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge/Core i3-4330 Haswell
Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-V/ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen1/ASUS H81M2
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO/Intel Box cooler/Intel Box cooler
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance/32GB ADATA/16GB ADATA
Video Card(s) SAPPHIRE R9 290 Tri-X OC 4GB/MSI RX 480 8GB/SAPPHIRE R9 390 8GB
Storage 2x1TB ADATA SSDs in RAID0+3 HDDs/2xCrucial 1TB SSDs in RAID0+3 HDDs/Samsung 1TB SSD+8TB+4TB HDDs
Display(s) Philips 274E5QHAB@HDMI + Philips 273EQH@DVI (both 27")
Case Fractal Design Define R4 Titanium
Audio Device(s) Kenwood Mini HiFi system/Microlab speakers/Philips HDMI (main)+LG TV monitor HDMI + Apple headphones
Power Supply Cooler Master Silent ProM 600 W (modular)
Mouse Microsoft Ergonomic Sculpt Desktop 2.0 (combo)@Razer Goliath mousepad (Medium speed)
Keyboard Microsoft Ergonomic Sculpt Desktop 2.0 (combo)
Software Win10 64-bit (Main PC v.1809 RTM Enterprise/2nd PC v.1903 Insider Preview Pro/3rd PC - same as 2nd)
Try in Linux (you can also run this Live from a USB flash drive) -- Ubuntu is good enough for such testing:

Try Windows PE too, such as -->

IF Linux and Strelec PE are both fine, something is wrong with your actual/current Windows OS installation.
Obviously, if Strelec has no stuttering with GPU-Z not running, but starts to stutter with GPU-Z running, then you will know GPU-Z is the culprit. ;)

EDIT: Also, it is possible something on the video card got damaged during the replacement/cleaning process.
You probably did this more than 20-40 times and are good at it, but this does not rule out a defect of some kind in your GPU after the procedures.

EDIT #2: OR also possible card is simply dying of "old age", regardless of those procedures you did with it. :)
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jun 29, 2009
Messages
1,875 (0.35/day)
Location
Heart of Eutopia!
System Name ibuytheusedstuff
Processor 5960x
Motherboard x99 sabertooth
Cooling old socket775 cooler
Memory 32 Viper
Video Card(s) 1080ti on morpheus 1
Storage raptors+ssd
Display(s) acer 120hz
Case open bench
Audio Device(s) onb
Power Supply antec 1200 moar power
Mouse mx 518
Keyboard roccat arvo
what happens if ya put the sensor refresh rate up to 10ms ?
 
Top