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I don't think it will be capable of driving a 4k display at all, what I find interested is the increase in Xbox Live servers. It's like they want to be OnLine.
Its because they are boasting 64-128 multiplayer games. Also itll be linked to Azure which is a high performing cloud computing service, which is supposivily aiding in the online service, and multiplayer games.
 
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Here are a bunch of pictures of it.
 

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I really like the design. Going back to the nostalgic box shape. Looks sleek too. I'm concerned with the price though. Assuming the new Kinect sensor will be included I could see this being a ~$500 console at launch.
 
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I really like the design. Going back to the nostalgic box shape. Looks sleek too. I'm concerned with the price though. Assuming the new Kinect sensor will be included I could see this being a ~$500 console at launch.
That or... MS could subsidize it just like they do with the $99 360 ;)
 
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lol TY _JP_.... I'm never going to be able to look at it again without thinking of the CDi :D

the one thing i don't get is the price tag. Xbox and PS have always been loss leaders. Now that there charging almost the same for the hardware that you would expect from a mITX machine there is no point in using them.

I mean you can get an A8, 8gb ram, 500gb HDD and a case for under £400. The only selling point is kinect and exclusive titles for me, and neither are that important. If I want to stream media you can do it for £50 with a Pi.... these consoles actually offer nothing.
 

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I like the looks of it. It's just missing a nice wood veneer.
 
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Its because they are boasting 64-128 multiplayer games. Also itll be linked to Azure which is a high performing cloud computing service, which is supposivily aiding in the online service, and multiplayer games.
64-128 is old news. MAG pretty much demolished that on PS3. I'd much rather have the 4k display IMO, but I understand why they aren't including it.
 
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Erocker your mission is to build one of them into one of these :D

 
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I like the look of the next Xbox. I can only assume they're calling it Xbox One to market it as the only device you need in your living room for all of your entertainment needs.

It's not "always on" but it requires the internet at least once every 24 hours to maintain licenses and nonsense. Lame.

Rumored "online pass" for used games. Now I know why EA decided to drop the online pass!

Included and required Kinect. I really don't want to be force fed the Kinect. If I wanted one, I'd have one. Besides, it's too Orwellian for me, I mean this console appears to be designed to watch you as much as you watch/play it.

The good things are the 500GB HDD, which will become outdated sooner rather than later. Full game installs on the system with no disc swapping required. The jump to an x86 architecture means better ports for PC (and if it really is using the Windows kernel and other parts of the OS means no porting as it will be developed for both platforms at once).

Bottom line. As nice as the system looks, I will be passing on it. I already have one sitting next to my desk. I already have a service that limits my loaning and reselling of games as they remain account bound.

Did they say whether XBL will continue to be a subscription service? I like the deal they have with the NFL as long as it is free/included with XBL subscription, but knowing both Microsoft and the NFL it will cost extra.

Those new controllers look legit though, can't wait to use one with my PC.
 

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So in terms of actual Gaming on this "console" now

Xbox One games have CD Keys it seems(just like PC games)
Xbox One games will require a one-time activation code to use, but you'll still be able to trade and sell them online, Microsoft tells Kotaku
You need to connect to live every 24 hours or all games will be blocked(this is confirmed)
Kotaku: If I’m playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks?

Harrison: I believe it’s 24 hours.

Kotaku: I’d have to connect online once every day.

Harrison: Correct.
lent out games = fee(games are locked to live accounts via the cd keys so where does this leave preowned games)
What this means is that if you take a game to a friend's house and try to play the game on their system using their account, you'll need to pay. If you take it to their house and try to play it on their system using your account, you won't need to pay.

In other words: playing while you're there is free. If you want to lend it to them for a few days/weeks? They'll have to pay.
No backwards compatibility
 
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So in terms of actual Gaming on this "console" now

Xbox One games have CD Keys it seems(just like PC games)
You need to connect to live every 24 hours or all games will be blocked(this is confirmed)
lent out games = fee(games are locked to live accounts)
No backwards compatibility
But porting to pc's is a breeze!
 
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it will be a breeze with the the PS4 also, because based on the gaming aspect the PS4 is looking better now to me, nifty features are nifty but arkics earlier was right, gaming is where it matters and microsoft based on this conference and what they failed to mention(from the obvious backlash) has failed in my mind in that regard. They have alot of work ahead of them.
 

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64-128 is old news. MAG pretty much demolished that on PS3. I'd much rather have the 4k display IMO, but I understand why they aren't including it.
Yeah demolished it, and then failed when the lag was incredibly bad, it was unplayable.
 

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It runs Windows... So, it's a PC.
I knew it! I think we'll finally see the end of PC neglect. No more crappy ports, no more severe consolitis, and maybe even multiplayer games that support split screen with multiple Xbox controllers.


it will be a breeze with the the PS4 also, because based on the gaming aspect the PS4 is looking better now to me, nifty features are nifty but arkics earlier was right, gaming is where it matters and microsoft based on this conference and what they failed to mention(from the obvious backlash) has failed in my mind in that regard. They have alot of work ahead of them.
Not really. It sounds like PS4 is still using proprietary libraries for just about everything. Microsoft's libraries on Xbox and on Windows are virtually the same. I wouldn't be surprised with the Xbox One if virtually all games are designed for PC first (quicker to test) and then ported to Xbox second.
 
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Everybody keeps saying things about ports being a thing of the past when these consoles come out. I think you're all going to be hurrendously disappointed. I have no doubt in my mind, that regardless of kernel or hardware, games that are developed for these consoles will still run like trash on anything other than one of these APU box consoles, unless devs make a special effort.
 
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Is anyone else worried that the Kinect can detect emotion/read your heart beat and the xbox won't run without it operating? They're going to read everyone who plays a game/watches TV through it like a book and send it to MS marketing. So much for privacy.
 
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Having to pay a fee to play used games? No wonder MS avoided the topic completely in the press conference, this is going to anger a lot of ppl, what advantage is there to owning the "one" compared to the PC then, besides a few exclusives?

Yes, you can't let your friend borrow PC games either, but, in the vast majority of cases new PC games get much cheaper way faster than their console counterparts :p
 
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Is anyone else worried that the Kinect can detect emotion/read your heart beat and the xbox won't run without it operating? They're going to read everyone who plays a game/watches TV through it like a book and send it to MS marketing. So much for privacy.
Don't buy an android or ios phone then as they do just as much tracking etc of course you're right but everyone is watching you already so what can you do.
 

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Don't buy an android or ios phone then as they do just as much tracking etc of course you're right but everyone is watching you already so what can you do.
Not care in the slightest, my life isnt very interesting, I'm sure they'd agree.
 
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Don't buy an android or ios phone then as they do just as much tracking etc of course you're right but everyone is watching you already so what can you do.
Can an android phone read your emotion, sense your body heat and tell your heart rate bpm, and everyone of those around you?

The quality of the kinect is outrageous. Watching a TV that watches you back. Scary stuff.
 
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I see 16 memory chips. Does that mean that the total width of the memory bus is 16x32 = 512 bit?
 

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I love this Q&A:

Q: Does Xbox One require an “always on” Internet connection?
A: No, it does not have to be always connected, but Xbox One does require a connection to the Internet.

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I see 16 memory chips. Does that mean that the total width of the memory bus is 16x32 = 512 bit?
not necessarily, but it means 4 gigabit per chips (hence 8GB in total)