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I think I know who is going to win worst company of the year next year. Microsoft is bending over backwards for producers at the consumer's expense. I'm almost hoping/expecting most consumers boycott the Xbox One and it will be one of the largest market failures ever. If people don't boycott it, these kinds of draconian DRM schemes will infiltrate the entire console market.
 

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I think I know who is going to win worst company of the year next year. Microsoft is bending over backwards for producers at the consumer's expense. I'm almost hoping/expecting most consumers boycott the Xbox One and it will be one of the largest market failures ever. If people don't boycott it, these kinds of draconian DRM schemes will infiltrate the entire console market.
Thousands of people will claim to boycott it, like Modern Warfare 2 or Mass Effect 3, but is will be a resounding success all around, because morons cant keep it in their pants; shiny new things are far too attractive to them to just not buy.
Most digital industry businesses will LOVE the XBone, because of the whole film licensing and preowned game costs, not to mention internet ISP's will receive lots of subscribers from those who need internet connection to run the damn console. This is only the beginning I think.
 
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well this was hinted at before but to see the patent sets it in stone, each day this new xbox the sinks deeper and deeper into the sea of failure man.:shadedshu

and we complained about our drm on pc's . . . . . . . .

cool stories bro
http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/24/xbox-one-pre-owned-game-activation-to-cost-around-35-report/
http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/23/xbox-one-ps4-a-generation-ahead-of-high-end-pcs-says-ea-exec/
 
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Thousands of people will claim to boycott it, like Modern Warfare 2 or Mass Effect 3, but is will be a resounding success all around, because morons cant keep it in their pants; shiny new things are far too attractive to them to just not buy.
Most digital industry businesses will LOVE the XBone, because of the whole film licensing and preowned game costs, not to mention internet ISP's will receive lots of subscribers from those who need internet connection to run the damn console. This is only the beginning I think.
PC is ahead of the curve. PC titles went down this path Microsoft is now and it completely backfired (see SimCity, Spore, Anno 2070, etc.). PC publishers are now backing off the draconian DRM and are sticking to modest DRM.

People will only pay so much for a product/service. If they can get it for less than that (second hand or piracy), they'll do it. If they cannot, they simply won't buy. At the end of the day, I think how much publishers make will be virtually unchanged but complaints will be high. Just like every other high piracy environment, logic dictates to back off on DRM because it doesn't translate into more revenue but undeniably translates into more unhappy customers.
 

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PC is ahead of the curve. PC titles went down this path Microsoft is now and it completely backfired (see SimCity, Spore, Anno 2070, etc.). PC publishers are now backing off the draconian DRM and are sticking to modest DRM.

People will only pay so much for a product/service. If they can get it for less than that (second hand or piracy), they'll do it. If they cannot, they simply won't buy. At the end of the day, I think how much publishers make will be virtually unchanged but complaints will be high. Just like every other high piracy environment, logic dictates to back off on DRM because it doesn't translate into more revenue but undeniably translates into more unhappy customers.
I truly hope you are right.
But sadly, corporations are going to be greedy as and when they can, at our expense.
 

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Its all the drones who are not reading sites like this, that will buy it knowing nothing about what we are discussing here, so the sales will still be high.
 

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All I can say is wow, that is one thing that is just like wow(head explodes)

That really really suprises me.
 
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well this was hinted at before but to see the patent sets it in stone, each day this new xbox the sinks deeper and deeper into the sea of failure man.:shadedshu

and we complained about our drm on pc's . . . . . . . .

cool stories bro
http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/24/xbox-one-pre-owned-game-activation-to-cost-around-35-report/
http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/23/xbox-one-ps4-a-generation-ahead-of-high-end-pcs-says-ea-exec/
Wait wait wait wait....there claiming that its more powerful then the latest PC? :wtf:
 
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Wait wait wait wait....there claiming that its more powerful then the latest PC? :wtf:


Welp. This settles that. The guy on the left is staring into my soul. The guy on the right, uh, not so much.
 
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Xbox One will not only use Kinect for voice commands, but the camera will also talk to you and let you know if there is someone in the room it doesn’t recognize, and will ask the person to identify themselves.

According to source speaking with Polygon, the new person identified will then have their identity saved to the console, and then will be “welcomed” by the system.
does this mean the camera is on 100% of the time?
 

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does this mean the camera is on 100% of the time?
I thought it already was on the 360. It certainly does at the main menu or in a Kinect game. I have one because the wife wanted it. I use it occasionally, it's missing the depth bit though. Between held motion sensors and a camera, I think they could do wonders, but I digress.
 
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then what happens when put 2 kinects in front of eachother?
 

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then what happens when put 2 kinects in front of eachother?
Helios.

(on a side note: WHY OH GOD OH WHY GOD DOES THAT GAME HAVE TO HAVE THOSE LOADING SCREENS THAT TAKES FOREVER ON MODERN COMPUTERS RHHGHAHGAEEEEGE)
 
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If you like achivements I don't see why not. "Five Firefly-marathons in a row" is definitevly I want everyone to know. I mean seriously.
Yeah but now everyone will know that you've watched Two Broke Girls and Mike and Molly. :nutkick:
 
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So let me get this straight in my head.

MS spent the majority of this conference talking about the multimedia features of the Xbox One. We're going to look past the name, the numerous details that MS never mentioned, and the fact that almost no real information was conveyed here.

MS has three problems.
1) Used game market killers will make consumers and retail chains less than happy about spending $60 on a game, as resales will be forced to a lower price to make them reasonable. Consumers will bear the brunt of the value decrease, as a fat profit margin for used games disappear and the selection of more affordable games evaporates. This means lower sales figures overall, and consumers waiting for the prices of games to drop to more reasonable levels before purchase. A lose-lose-lose for consumers, publishers, and retailers.

2) Constant connection. Any continual dial-home feature is DRM. Those consumers than cannot have this connectivity will be out in the cold. Those who believe this "feature" is an excuse to monitor usage will not touch the console. There is a good reason the idiot that said "just deal with it" got fired. MS might have done the best thing for PR and fired him, but they might be riding those sentiments into their next console.

3) Exclusivity. The PS4 and Xbox will functionally be cousins. They have nearly the same hardware setup, and that necessitates some similarities in design. Likewise, the PC and a dozen different devices already do what the Xbox One purports to do. So where does that leave the, presumable, gaming console. It doesn't bring anything substantially better than a mid-tier PCs parts, it doesn't beat out other media devices for content provision. It doesn't even deliver a unique input medium, as the controllers are already capable of being used on any windows PC. Why would anyone with the money for an Xbox buy it?



There is only one way I see the Xbox One succeeding. Drop the new DRM features. Make new games cost $45, and have every game have an additional component withheld for $10. This component needs to not be necessary for the game, but it needs to be something that consumers who like a game would be willing to purchase. The publisher and MS divvy up this $10 expenditure, which should insure used game sales still benefit publishers. That comes in at $5 less expense for a customer, and the first time the content is purchased under resale the money that is "lost" will be recouped.

MS makes used game sales possible, forces prices to the consumers to go down, and still increases their earnings. I don't think MS has the balls to do this, because they have never shown this much initiative. In the same respect, I think the Xbox One will languish and be seen as underperforming. All of this is the fault of MS, as they seem to be stumbling about blindly in the dark. Windows 8 isn't the revelation MS wanted. Windows on my gaming console is foolish experiment.
Oh please. First off 59 bucks for a video game is cheaper than games were 15 years ago adjusted for inflation. So "Waaaaa games are to expensive" argument doesn't hold water. Not even remotely. Second all this DRM crap IS NO DIFFERENT than steam or origin and the last time I checked PC sales were doing just fine. Wanna place blame on this new console DRM? Look no further than the normal PC gamer logged into steam.