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Microsoft Claims Major Patent Infringement

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The conflict continues between software giant Microsoft and the open source community. Lawyers for Microsoft say the Linux kernel violates 42 patents, the Linux GUI another 65 while Open Office infringes upon 68 of its patents. Email programs as well as other various software rounds out a grand total of 235. Microsoft has yet to seek royalties from these alleged infractions and would face tough opposition from the open source community.

Source: CNN/Fortune
 

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Microsoft lies! They have stolen things from open source too!
 

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Microsoft lies! They have stolen things from open source too!
the article is long but it talks about the open source group setup to counter-sue microsoft because of software that is questionable.
 
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I'll say it here, as it's been said before:

If Microsoft thinks that Linux is infringing upon its patents, then Microsoft needs to say exactly what those "patents" are.

If they don't (or can't), then Microsoft's claim is all a bunch of bullshit, designed to scare people away from using Linux.
 

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Am I the only one to think MS are clutching at straws here? I bet their gonna be laughed outta the courtroom for at least a vast majority of those alledged infringements.
 
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Am I the only one to think MS are clutching at straws here? I bet their gonna be laughed outta the courtroom for at least a vast majority of those alledged infringements.
unless they use their vast wealth to pay off the judge and officials :rolleyes:
 
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how does one "steal" open source......look at osx, nothing is stolen its just been customised within an inch of its *nix....i hear sun "stole" a great deal of code for solaris aswell....lol...oh its now free...so i guess there clear....roflmao
 
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reminds me of this i found,




Courtesy of The Onion

REDMOND, WA--In what CEO Bill Gates called "an unfortunate
but necessary step to protect our intellectual property from theft and
exploitation by competitors," the Microsoft Corporation patented the
numbers one and zero Monday.

With the patent, Microsoft's rivals are prohibited from manufacturing or
selling products containing zeroes and ones--the mathematical building
blocks of all computer languages and programs--unless a royalty fee of 10
cents per digit used is paid to the software giant.

"Microsoft has been using the binary system of ones and zeroes ever since
its inception in 1975," Gates told reporters. "For years, in the interest
of the overall health of the computer industry, we permitted the free and
unfettered use of our proprietary numeric systems. However, changing
marketplace conditions and the increasingly predatory practices of
certain competitors now leave us with no choice but to seek compensation
for the use of our numerals."

A number of major Silicon Valley players, including Apple Computer,
Netscape and Sun Microsystems, said they will challenge the Microsoft
patent as monopolistic and anti-competitive, claiming that the
10-cent-per-digit licensing fee would bankrupt them instantly.

"While, technically, Java is a complex system of algorithms used to
create a platform-independent programming environment, it is, at its
core, just a string of trillions of ones and zeroes," said Sun
Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy, whose company created the Java
programming environment used in many Internet applications. "The
licensing fees we'd have to pay Microsoft every day would be
approximately 327,000 times the total net worth of this company."

"If this patent holds up in federal court, Apple will have no choice but
to convert to analog," said Apple interim CEO Steve Jobs, "and I have
serious doubts whether this company would be able to remain competitive
selling pedal-operated computers running software off vinyl LPs."

As a result of the Microsoft patent, many other companies have begun
radically revising their product lines: Database manufacturer Oracle has
embarked on a crash program to develop "an abacus for the next
millennium." Novell, whose communications and networking systems are also
subject to Microsoft licensing fees, is working with top animal trainers
on a chimpanzee-based message-transmission system. Hewlett-Packard is
developing a revolutionary new steam-powered printer.

Despite the swarm of protest, Gates is standing his ground, maintaining
that ones and zeroes are the undisputed property of Microsoft.

"We will vigorously enforce our patents of these numbers, as they are
legally ours," Gates said. "Among Microsoft's vast historical archives
are Sanskrit cuneiform tablets from 1800 B.C. clearly showing ones and a
symbol known as 'sunya,' or nothing. We also own: papyrus scrolls written
by Pythagoras himself in which he explains the idea of singular notation,
or 'one'; early tracts by Mohammed ibn Musa al Kwarizimi explaining the
concept of <italic>al-sifr</italic>, or 'the cipher'; original
mathematical manuscripts by Heisenberg, Einstein and Planck; and a signed
first-edition copy of Jean-Paul Sartre's <italic>Being And
Nothingness</italic>. Should the need arise, Microsoft will have no
difficulty proving to the Justice Department or anyone else that we own
the rights to these numbers."

Added Gates: "My salary also has lots of zeroes. I'm the richest man in
the world."

According to experts, the full ramifications of Microsoft's patenting of
one and zero have yet to be realized.

"Because all integers and natural numbers derive from one and zero,
Microsoft may, by extension, lay claim to ownership of all mathematics
and logic systems, including Euclidean geometry, pulleys and levers,
gravity, and the basic Newtonian principles of motion, as well as the
concepts of existence and nonexistence," Yale University theoretical
mathematics professor J. Edmund Lattimore said. "In other words, pretty
much everything."

Lattimore said that the only mathematical constructs of which Microsoft
may not be able to claim ownership are infinity and transcendental
numbers like pi. Microsoft lawyers are expected to file liens on infinity
and pi this week.

Microsoft has not yet announced whether it will charge a user fee to
individuals who wish to engage in such mathematically rooted motions as
walking, stretching and smiling.

In an address beamed live to billions of people around the globe Monday,
Gates expressed confidence that his company's latest move will,
ultimately, benefit all humankind.

"Think of this as a partnership," Gates said. "Like the ones and zeroes
of the binary code itself, we must all work together to make the promise
of the computer revolution a reality. As the world's richest, most
powerful software company, Microsoft is number one. And you, the millions
of consumers who use our products, are the zeroes."
 
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mwahahahahahahahahaha :laugh:

lol, its like saying Ive got a patent on gene replication, now you and all your children belong to me! :D
 

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I really wouldn't be surprised if lots of the things Microsoft has patented originated in open source software. After all, Microsoft - like everyone else, has full access to open source code...
 

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Next they´ll sue us for using they´re name...MICRO$OFT...or the air we bried...or for the letter´s we use to write this messages...Men they´ll use everithyng to stop open source , now that it becames a real pin in his ass,with UBUNTU.
 

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Linux is fast becoming the DRM-less anything-goes operating system. MS are probably annoyed that they spent so much time and effort stuffing theirs with the former to find that it's not what people want ;)
 

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Try as they might, this will never work in M$ favor.
 
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