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|System Name||Fractal Define R5 | Fractal Define R6|
|Processor||AMD Ryzen 9 3900X | Intel Core i7-9900K @ 5 Ghz all cores|
|Motherboard||ASUS ROG Strix X570 Gaming | MSI Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon AC|
|Cooling||CORSAIR Hydro H115i, RGB | CORSAIR Hydro H150i RGB|
|Memory||G.Skill Trident 32GB 3200 Mhz RGB| HyperX 32GB 3600 Mhz RGB|
|Video Card(s)||MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X TRIO 11 GB| MSI RTX 3080 Ti Gaming X TRIO 12 GB|
|Display(s)||2X LG 27UL600 27in 4K HDR FreeSync/G-Sync DP| LG 32UL950-W 32in 4K HDR FreeSync/G-Sync DP|
|Case||Fractal R5 tempered glass | Fractal R6 tempered glass|
|Audio Device(s)||Creative Sound Blaster Z | Creative Sound Blaster AE-7|
|Power Supply||Seasonic 750 watts| Seasonic 1000 watts|
|Software||MS Windows 10 Pro version 21H1|
R5 2500U is 14 nm Zen 1 APU without desktop 14 nm Zen 1's chiplet and CCX-to-CCX latencies.Yes, Microsoft IS cutting out support artificially and is currently letting CPU's that don't proscribe to the DCH standard to run. Its almost like Microsoft are really good at this backward compatibility thing, but wants to ensure a certain security standard going forward. We technically saw the same thing with XP SP3 to Vista, XP SP3 brought in WDM 2.0, but wasn't enforced until Vista. That change still broke tonnes of shit as we all remember.
Pretty certain that the SP4 has an offboard TPM not part of the CPU.
And didn't say anything about Ryzen 2nd gen, only first gen.
I think after all this back and forth however we can agree on one thing, Microsoft's messaging around this is fucking idiotic when we are still all sitting around trying to figure out what the actual reasons are behind min requirements.
I do think it boils down to three things now.
A: TPM 2.0
B: Secure Boot
C: DCH drivers.
The more I think about it though, Microsoft shouldn't have launched Windows 11, and instead set a final feature pack version for unsupported hardware with say a two year security update before EOL.
I'm running Intel's latest DCH IGP drivers on Surface Pro 4's i5 6300U's IGP.