Microsoft to make Windows 10 updates mandatory

[erocker]

So... Is there an actual way to turn off Windows Update and just use the service manually?

 

[RejZoR]

What retard thought it would be good idea to provide separate tool which is as retarded as mentally challenged amoeba instead of fucking giving the user option to decide if they want to install it or not. Windows 8.1 has this solved perfectly.
I never had issues with security updates so have those forced. But updates for non security related things should be OPTIONAL. Not installing them doesn' compromise security, but it saves you whole lot of cursing and spitting at the Microsoft name. How fucking daft are people at Microsoft for not getting this VERY simple part? It's not freaking rocket science...

 

[broken pixel]

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/...igned-by-the-monopoly-men-of-the-global-elite

 

[Blue-Knight]

Do you think mandatory Windows 10 updates are a good idea?

We have 42 votes for YES!

Please, could any of you who voted yes explain why do you think it is a good idea?

Thank you!

 

[broken pixel]

^ I have been wondering the same thing. Maybe Microsquish Shills have infiltrated the TP forums? Teehee!

OT: Anyone running windows 10 with a RAID array? Mucho problems with games stuttering when the data is installed to my array. I use a Revo3 drive 240GB for the OS & 2x 240 CL4100s for my array. I have tried diff RST drivers, OROMs.

 

[Ahhzz]

^ I have been wondering the same thing. Maybe Microsquish Shills have infiltrated the TP forums? Teehee!

OT: Anyone running windows 10 with a RAID array? Mucho problems with games stuttering when the data is installed to my array. I use a Revo3 drive 240GB for the OS & 2x 240 CL4100s for my array. I have tried diff RST drivers, OROMs.

YIKES... not here.... I thought about it for one of my boxes, just stuck with a bunch of drives.

 

[Pill Monster]

So... Is there an actual way to turn off Windows Update and just use the service manually?

Go into Services and change Windows Update Service to either disabled or manual start. If you have Pro u can select deferred update under the Windows Update advanced options menu.

Then there's always the registry. lol

 

[Pill Monster]

^ I have been wondering the same thing. Maybe Microsquish Shills have infiltrated the TP forums? Teehee!

OT: Anyone running windows 10 with a RAID array? M ucho problems with games stuttering when the data is installed to my array. I use a Revo3 drive 240GB for the OS & 2x 240 CL4100s for my array. I have tried diff RST drivers, OROMs.

Yeah I was while testing, and the drives intermittently stop responding. I think it's something to do with the storage spaces driver.

You don't have the 15.7 drivers installed do you? They make GTA V freeze every few seconds..


Btw a new Catalyst driver came out today. Build 1062.


Download Full Release Notes

• This driver is not intended for use on AMD products running in Apple Boot Camp platforms. Users of these platforms should contact their manufacturer for driver assistance.
• When installing the AMD Catalyst™ Driver for Windows® operating system, the user must be logged on as Administrator, or have Administrator rights to complete the installation of the AMD Catalyst™ Driver.
• The AMD Catalyst™ 15.7.1 Software Suite requires Windows® 7 Service Pack 1 to be installed.
• The AMD Catalyst™ 15.7.1 Software Suite requires Microsoft® .NET Framework 4.5 to be installed. Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 is included in all AMD Catalyst™ packages.

Resolved Issues:

• [421165] Battlefield™ Hardline becomes unresponsive after toggling the in-game Vsync option.
• [422261] Mantle-based application may crash when system is woken from sleep mode
• [422291] Battlefield™ 4 may crash if run in Mantle mode with AMD Crossfire™ enabled
• [422273] A crash may be experienced on some AMD Radeon™ R9 300 series products while running the Unigene benchmark
• [422249] A ‘missing Dll’ error message may be experienced while doing an express uninstall of the current driver
• [421444] Transcoded clips may fail to play on some Drag and Drop devices
• [422853] Some systems experience a minor performance drop from 15.15 to 15.20 in The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt with HairWorks enabled
• [422800] Some “Kaveri” APU-based systems may experience minor performance drop on PCMark8® Video Group Chat & Casual Gaming tests
• [422797] Display profiles are not retained after driver upgrade from 14.502 to 15.20
• [422249] DLL missing popup message may be encountered when performing an express uninstall of the display driver. This will not impact the uninstall process
• [422342] Cyberlink PowerDVD plays 3D content in 2D mode
• [421570] Audio driver is banged out for non-primary ASIC after enabling CF and rebooting system
• [422675] Intermittent BSOD occurs when launching a race in Dirt Rally™
• [422621] With quad AMD CrossFire™ mode enabled, TDR or blank display occurs when launching DirectX® 9 application in full screen
• [419871] BSOD observed when performing an express uninstall of the display driver in 4K resolution
• [422671] Flickering corruption may occur in Dirt Rally™ with Advanced Blending enabled
• [422672] Flickering corruption may occur in Dirt Rally™ when changing settings during gameplay
• [422056] 3DMark Farandole may crash when AMD Mantle is selected from the test suite

Known Issues:

• [424127] The Firefox browser may crash while opening multiple tabs (2 or more)
  • Disabling hardware acceleration or opening multiple windows instead of multiple tabs is a temporary workaround solution
• [423635] A Blue Screen error may be observed with some Intel+AMD configurations on driver installation. As a workaround, please update your drivers using Windows update.
• [423536] F1™ 2015 may experience poor AMD Crossfire™ scaling
• [423976] GTA V may crash on extended gameplay on some AMD Radeon™ R9 300 series products
• [423982] GRID: Autosport™ and Batman™: Arkham Knight may not launch on some Intel+AMD configurations
• [423651] Applying Video Quality (VQ) settings while playing Flash/HTML5 content may result in screen flicker
• [420370] The Frame Rate option is erroneously displayed in the AMD Catalyst™ Control Center Performance Tab for systems with Intel processors and AMD GPUs.
• [423656] A Blue Screen error may be encountered on some AMD Radeon™ R9 300 series products if AMD Crossfire™ is enabled/disabled while BluRay or DVD playback is in progress
• [423520] AMD Dual Graphics may not be available on some AMD A10-5750M-equipped laptops
• [423824] Unable to create an SLS in Eyefinity if a 5K display is part of the SLS.
• [423759] Fill SLS mode will not apply when 2560x1600 resolution and 2560x1440 resolution displays are used
• [423550] VSR mode may be erroneously displayed on devices that do not support the feature
• [423378] Dirt Rally™ may show corruption in game textures after installing the V500 game update
• [423969] System may hang while running the 3D Mark 2011 benchmark in a loop on some AMD Radeon™ R9 200 series products.
• [422748] Battlefield Hardline may experience stuttering during game play
• [422806] Battlefield Hardline may crash on pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del while running in Mantle mode
• [423311] A TDR error may be experienced when running the Windows Metro camera application in a SLS configuration
• [422944] Fire in Total War™ : Attila may experience corruption when in AMD CrossFire™ mode
• [422291] Battlefield 4 triggers TDR and crash when running in AMD Mantle mode
• [421719] Flickering and intermittent display blanking out with LG31MU97 if resolution is set above 1920x1080
• [422674] Corruption may occur in Dirt Rally™ with CMAA enabled with Portrait SLS and AMD CrossFire™ mode enabled
• [421388] AMD Radeon™ R9 390 Series may experience screen corruption in 3Dmark11 "Deep Sea" Demo
• [422623] Rage: In game cinematic may stutter when quad AMD Crossfire™ mode is enabled
• [421110] The Witcher® 3: Wild Hunt - Corruption may be observed when AA is enabled in AMD Crossfire™ mode

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+10+-+64

 

[broken pixel]

YIKES... not here.... I thought about it for one of my boxes, just stuck with a bunch of drives.

Set up a spanned volume, JBOD(Just a bunch of Disks)

 

[Pill Monster]

Set up a spanned volume, JBOD(Just a bunch of Disks)

If your games are on a JBOD array I'm not surprised performance is hampered.
JBOD isn't really RAID,the drives are just daisy chained together to make one big logical volume. They work independently.

 

[Ahhzz]

Yeah I was while testing, and the drives intermittently stop responding. I think it's something to do with the storage spaces driver.

You don't have the 15.7 drivers installed do you? They make GTA V freeze every few seconds..


Btw a new Catalyst driver came out today. Build 1062.


Download Full Release Notes

• This driver is not intended for use on AMD products running in Apple Boot Camp platforms. Users of these platforms should contact their manufacturer for driver assistance.
• When installing the AMD Catalyst™ Driver for Windows® operating system, the user must be logged on as Administrator, or have Administrator rights to complete the installation of the AMD Catalyst™ Driver.
• The AMD Catalyst™ 15.7.1 Software Suite requires Windows® 7 Service Pack 1 to be installed.
• The AMD Catalyst™ 15.7.1 Software Suite requires Microsoft® .NET Framework 4.5 to be installed. Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 is included in all AMD Catalyst™ packages.

Resolved Issues:

• [421165] Battlefield™ Hardline becomes unresponsive after toggling the in-game Vsync option.
• [422261] Mantle-based application may crash when system is woken from sleep mode
• [422291] Battlefield™ 4 may crash if run in Mantle mode with AMD Crossfire™ enabled
• [422273] A crash may be experienced on some AMD Radeon™ R9 300 series products while running the Unigene benchmark
• [422249] A ‘missing Dll’ error message may be experienced while doing an express uninstall of the current driver
• [421444] Transcoded clips may fail to play on some Drag and Drop devices
• [422853] Some systems experience a minor performance drop from 15.15 to 15.20 in The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt with HairWorks enabled
• [422800] Some “Kaveri” APU-based systems may experience minor performance drop on PCMark8® Video Group Chat & Casual Gaming tests
• [422797] Display profiles are not retained after driver upgrade from 14.502 to 15.20
• [422249] DLL missing popup message may be encountered when performing an express uninstall of the display driver. This will not impact the uninstall process
• [422342] Cyberlink PowerDVD plays 3D content in 2D mode
• [421570] Audio driver is banged out for non-primary ASIC after enabling CF and rebooting system
• [422675] Intermittent BSOD occurs when launching a race in Dirt Rally™
• [422621] With quad AMD CrossFire™ mode enabled, TDR or blank display occurs when launching DirectX® 9 application in full screen
• [419871] BSOD observed when performing an express uninstall of the display driver in 4K resolution
• [422671] Flickering corruption may occur in Dirt Rally™ with Advanced Blending enabled
• [422672] Flickering corruption may occur in Dirt Rally™ when changing settings during gameplay
• [422056] 3DMark Farandole may crash when AMD Mantle is selected from the test suite

Known Issues:

• [424127] The Firefox browser may crash while opening multiple tabs (2 or more)
  • Disabling hardware acceleration or opening multiple windows instead of multiple tabs is a temporary workaround solution
• [423635] A Blue Screen error may be observed with some Intel+AMD configurations on driver installation. As a workaround, please update your drivers using Windows update.
• [423536] F1™ 2015 may experience poor AMD Crossfire™ scaling
• [423976] GTA V may crash on extended gameplay on some AMD Radeon™ R9 300 series products
• [423982] GRID: Autosport™ and Batman™: Arkham Knight may not launch on some Intel+AMD configurations
• [423651] Applying Video Quality (VQ) settings while playing Flash/HTML5 content may result in screen flicker
• [420370] The Frame Rate option is erroneously displayed in the AMD Catalyst™ Control Center Performance Tab for systems with Intel processors and AMD GPUs.
• [423656] A Blue Screen error may be encountered on some AMD Radeon™ R9 300 series products if AMD Crossfire™ is enabled/disabled while BluRay or DVD playback is in progress
• [423520] AMD Dual Graphics may not be available on some AMD A10-5750M-equipped laptops
• [423824] Unable to create an SLS in Eyefinity if a 5K display is part of the SLS.
• [423759] Fill SLS mode will not apply when 2560x1600 resolution and 2560x1440 resolution displays are used
• [423550] VSR mode may be erroneously displayed on devices that do not support the feature
• [423378] Dirt Rally™ may show corruption in game textures after installing the V500 game update
• [423969] System may hang while running the 3D Mark 2011 benchmark in a loop on some AMD Radeon™ R9 200 series products.
• [422748] Battlefield Hardline may experience stuttering during game play
• [422806] Battlefield Hardline may crash on pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del while running in Mantle mode
• [423311] A TDR error may be experienced when running the Windows Metro camera application in a SLS configuration
• [422944] Fire in Total War™ : Attila may experience corruption when in AMD CrossFire™ mode
• [422291] Battlefield 4 triggers TDR and crash when running in AMD Mantle mode
• [421719] Flickering and intermittent display blanking out with LG31MU97 if resolution is set above 1920x1080
• [422674] Corruption may occur in Dirt Rally™ with CMAA enabled with Portrait SLS and AMD CrossFire™ mode enabled
• [421388] AMD Radeon™ R9 390 Series may experience screen corruption in 3Dmark11 "Deep Sea" Demo
• [422623] Rage: In game cinematic may stutter when quad AMD Crossfire™ mode is enabled
• [421110] The Witcher® 3: Wild Hunt - Corruption may be observed when AA is enabled in AMD Crossfire™ mode

Holy crap... think I'll pass on this one for a while.....

 

[Mussels]

So, have we determined that simply disabling the Windows Update service will prevent any updates from being installed?

one forum member posted a better solution in the win10 tweak thread which allows you to stop it searching automatically, which is the best solution so far. at least then you get to choose to check for updates when you want, although you still cant choose which ones to download, or stop them once they start.


holy crap those driver release notes are exactly why forced updates are bad. i wonder if they did it deliberately to help draw attention to the issues.

 

[broken pixel]

If your games are on a JBOD array I'm not surprised performance is hampered.
JBOD isn't really RAID,the drives are just daisy chained together to make one big logical volume. They work independently.

I have a RAID 0 array, thought dude said he had a bunch of drives so I suggested a spanned volume for all his disk.

 

[R-T-B]

So... Is there an actual way to turn off Windows Update and just use the service manually?

Yes. Group policy for example. See my tweaks in the tweak thread.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

We have 42 votes for YES!

Please, could any of you who voted yes explain why do you think it is a good idea?

Thank you!

Devil's advocate, given I've already expressed the opinion that this is 100% weapons grade crap.

You buy a work station. Said work station utilizes integrated Intel ethernet, a Quadro or Firepro GPU, and almost nothing else. Intel drivers are generally very stable. Quadro and Firepro GPUs rarely get updates, because they aren't consumer cards that will require updating for games. Your user base is a bunch of accountants and business people who don't give a crap about the box on their desk as long as it boots up quickly, runs for 5 years without fail, and rarely remember to shut their machines down over weekends and holidays. For an admin at these sites, maintenance is basically just on the network. Security patches are installed immediately as they become available, software is up to date, and the users don't have to know anything but where the on button is.



Outside of said fictional land of unicorns, we've got reality. Sometime the latest laptop drivers don't play well with the network (sigh), sometimes crap like Nvidia and AMD GPU drivers have a longer list of known bugs than fixes, and sometimes the automatic driver updates (even in 7) find the most horrible possible driver (this is why anyone with an ounce of experience downloads the newest drivers from a manufacturer's website when building a new PC, instead of letting automatic update bork it thoroughly).

Great in theory, horrible in practice. It's a lot like communism. Unless everyone is 100% equal, some people will be more equal than others...

 

[Mussels]

nvidias windows 10 release is full of people with laptops complaining of issues, such as their secondary GPU's not showing up leaving them stuck on intel IGP only.

yet another reason these forced drivers are stupid...

 

[broken pixel]

http://i.imgur.com/DiQbvqa.jpg

A guru3d member made this to sum up Windows 10, lol!

 

[Arjai]

waiting until the last day...unless things change dramatically, before that. I am a bit leary about this new "FREE" crap.

and about this being the end all of end all's. Windows 10 forever?

Not buying that line. I have more than 20 years left to live, as long as I don't get murdered by someone. Not too likely, I hope.

I don't think, w10 will last that long. Greed is the only lasting quality Humans have. The rest has a lifespan of less than a month.

Well, except revenge. Or, Stupidity....Point is, Win10 is none of these. It is an OS. It will change, but no one will be completely happy about it.

For instance, 8.1 was a success. But, there were naysayers galore. I feel, as a user of XP, 7, and now 8 and 8.1, 8.1 is the, arguably, the best windows OS ever.

I have two comps on 7, two on Linux Distros, and this Ultrabook on, now, 8.1. All of them have their benefits. All of them have had their problems. DX12 seems to be the biggest benefit of 10, yet no games have yet to utilize it, probably not for some time now.

10 is not ready, just like 8 was not ready. 8.1 fixed a bunch. MS heard what people wanted.

MS nw seems to think they know what people want, Hopefully, they will listen, again, and fix this Beta RTM.

As far as the whole Conspiracy angle goes...If the NSA wants to watch me Jack Off, through my Integrated Camera, so be it. Until that is illegal, I have nothing else to hide. ( they already know what I have done for this government, that I cannot reveal).

I would rather not have to be a Beta tester, I have enough to do!!

Yada, Yada, Bing, Bang...This song is OVER!!

 

[Pill Monster]

one forum member posted a better solution in the win10 tweak thread which allows you to stop it searching automatically, which is the best solution so far. at least then you get to choose to check for updates when you want, although you still cant choose which ones to download, or stop them once they start.


holy crap those driver release notes are exactly why forced updates are bad. i wonder if they did it deliberately to help draw attention to the issues.

The Catalyst release notes always look like that. Most of the issues highlighted in red have been present for years. Occasionally notes are updated to reflect the new GPU or game which it affects.

The TDR's, Firefox crashing while watching movies, black screens on wake up, graphical corruption in The Witcher which stems back to Oblivion/Fallout3.

But don't panic, just disable crossfire. The miracle fix for everything.

 

[Ahhzz]

nvidias windows 10 release is full of people with laptops complaining of issues, such as their secondary GPU's not showing up leaving them stuck on intel IGP only.

yet another reason these forced drivers are stupid...

It's really for the best. What standard user doesn't benefit from having the latest drivers and updates for their computer?!!?

 

[rtwjunkie]

It's really for the best. What standard user doesn't benefit from having the latest drivers and updates for their computer?!!?

Maybe for alot that can barely manage the task of turning their computer on. That's why it should be optional, bc people who aren't standard users know that latest driver is not always best.

 

[Mussels]

It's really for the best. What standard user doesn't benefit from having the latest drivers and updates for their computer?!!?

what standard user can fix it when a driver update breaks something?

 

[broken pixel]

“Where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defense.”

- Dante

 

[Pill Monster]

I have a RAID 0 array, thought dude said he had a bunch of drives so I suggested a spanned volume for all his disk.

Ah right OK.

What RAID controller is it? I got AMD and after removing the 3.6.1 drivers and installing 3.02 things seem better. On W7 though, haven't used 10 for a while.

 

[Loosenut]

http://i.imgur.com/DiQbvqa.jpg

A guru3d member made this to sum up Windows 10, lol!

George Orwell's 1984 is getting frighteningly closer and closer...