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So after the news of China's crackdown here in Thailand mining rigs are showing up online, sadly not parted out.
Below are some examples all of which are being sold and can bought in multiples of 10 or less.
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The 2nd picture has rigs filled with 3080ti's
 
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I wish those cards would stay in those racks forever. No gamer should ever have to buy a second-hand card from a miner, even if the price is right. Unfortunately, people don't know how to take their hands off of their wallets these days, so they'll still buy crap from these losers just as they do from the scalpers. :shadedshu:
 
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I wish those cards would stay in those racks forever. No gamer should ever have to buy a second-hand card from a miner, even if the price is right. Unfortunately, people don't know how to take their hands off of their wallets these days, so they'll still buy crap from these losers just as they do from the scalpers. :shadedshu:
Those cards look pretty clean and I dare say are probably looked after better than the majority cards used by gamers, also with the current state of lockdown these cards running 24/7 with under-voltage and custom v-bios are probably in better condition than most cards at the moment due to gamers sat in their homes playing games in confinement.
 
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I wish those cards would stay in those racks forever. No gamer should ever have to buy a second-hand card from a miner, even if the price is right. Unfortunately, people don't know how to take their hands off of their wallets these days, so they'll still buy crap from these losers just as they do from the scalpers. :shadedshu:
I mean in an ideal world only financially distressed individuals would gamble the risk of buying second-hand anything. But with the current shortage and inflated price straight from the factory floor, NOT buying from miners would be like cutting your nose out of spite.
 
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look how clean those riggs are, i have no prob buying s/h mining cards.
 
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Alot of stigma against second hand mining cards I think has been enforced by retailers and manufacturers who want you to buy their products new. This is someone's lively hood were talking about, most miners want their expenditures to last as long as possible and with the cost of skilled labour in places like China to strip, repaste and clean a gpu on a regular basis is nothing.

All of my tools are cleaned, serviced and calibrated regular if you don't look after your lively hood sorry to say your an idiot
 
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I mean in an ideal world only financially distressed individuals would gamble the risk of buying second-hand anything.
I disagree. In ideal world, if you are not well off and want something, you should prioritize low risk buying. Buying used things is worth it if you are well off and can absorb possible losses. AS long as you have proper chances of absorbing risk and profiting off that, you can then take bigger risks. That ends up in becoming someone like Brian from TechYesCity or Steve from RandomGaminginHD.
 

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Those cards look pretty clean and I dare say are probably looked after better than the majority cards used by gamers,
I don't want to say something stupid but most of the gamers ( including myself ) that own an Ampere card has it under-clocked/undervolted.
it doesn't matter if they look pretty clean or like brand new, a mining card will always remain a mining card and will never have place in my Pc, i speak for myself.
 
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A lot of stigma against second hand mining cards I think has been enforced by retailers and manufacturers who want you to buy their products new. This is someone's lively hood were talking about, most miners want their expenditures to last as long as possible and with the cost of skilled labour in places like China to strip, repaste and clean a gpu on a regular basis is nothing.
To be honest, buying used tech has always been quite risky, particularly online and if you can't inspect it before you buy it. I have always had a terrible luck with buying motherboards, be them used or new. Most motherboards arrived dead or didn't last much more past warranty period. Graphics cards were better, out of all used GPUs that I bought, 50% of them worked completely fine, 25% of them died soon after, 25% had odd issues, that may be software or hardware related, but isn't known for certain. Hard drives are less risky than that, most that I bought worked fine for years, I had one rather soon failure, but the drive I bought was over decade old. Ironically, something like cooler, proved to be a risky purchase. They are said to last forever and mine arrived intact, but the most unexpected happened. None of it's aluminum plates were tightly mounted on heatsinks. It worked somehow, but it certainly was compromised, meanwhile fan that was over decade old and are known to have a limited lifespan, actually still works without any problems or anything odd going on.

Mining or not, but buying an used GPU to me looks like crapshoot. Many youtubers show that deals exist, I don't doubt that, they really do exist, but I think that failures or buying used tech aren't talked about nearly enough, as well as proper countermeasures to avoid them.
 
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The RX 570 I used for almost 3 years '1 month away from 3 years' was an ex miner card during the previous mining craze.
Well the end of it so the card mined for around 6 months and when I bought it it still had ~2 and half years local-ish retail warranty.

Previous owner was very open and clear about it so I was fine with it, card had no real issues to speak of cause of miner past and after buying my second hand 1070 recently I sold the 570 and now its being used by a new owner and it still works just fine according to him.
I did clean out that RX 570 in early 2021 and changed pads+paste just to feel safer but in general it was in a good condition, I also ran it undervolted same as the 1070 now.

So yeah I don't mind buying ex miner cards as long as the previous owner is not shady and kept the cards under proper conditions, still under warranty is also not a bad thing to have.

Might worth to mention that I buy my used second hand hardware on a local market/forum in my country so I can't speak of the bigger more known sites/places. 'ppl also sell full rigs on this site every now and then same as the OP posted so its nothing new really'
 
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look how clean those riggs are, i have no prob buying s/h mining cards.
Mining cards tend to run way lower clockspeeds after months/year of 24/7 usage.
I would never pay much for a former mining card thats for sure. Can die anytime. They have been pushed to the limit, 24/7 without break.

Do you also want to buy SSDs that have been used for Chia mining?
 
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I wish those cards would stay in those racks forever. No gamer should ever have to buy a second-hand card from a miner, even if the price is right.
That's a great way to not only miss a deal, but keep GPU prices elevated out of spite.

Mining cards tend to run way lower clockspeeds after months/year of 24/7 usage.
The real issue has nothing to do with clocks. Those are mostly unaffected if it was run right / has proper bios. It's all about the moving parts. Fans can and do fail, so be aware of that and ready to replace.

I am by no means suggesting pay full price. Treat it like it is: well used hardware.

All the mining GTX 1080s from my old series of articles here are still in gaming rigs AFAIK.
 
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So yeah I don't mind buying ex miner cards as long as the previous owner is not shady and kept the cards under proper conditions, still under warranty is also not a bad thing to have.
^ That's the issue though:-

Guy who looked after cards, undervolted them = "I looked after my cards, undervolted them, etc"

Guy who OC'd his to the max because his parents / university / place of work were paying the electricity bill = Sees "I looked after my cards, undervolted them, etc" cards selling better because of including that phrase, and simply copy / pastes "I looked after my cards, undervolted them, etc" too and you, me, and everyone else hasn't any real clue of whether the cards really were "kept the cards under proper conditions" or not... Likewise, undervolting GPU's "vCore" also does nothing for persistently higher (often approaching triple digits) VRAM temps, and that's something that hardly any miner mentions in the sales pitch either.
 
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I mean in an ideal world only financially distressed individuals would gamble the risk of buying second-hand anything. But with the current shortage and inflated price straight from the factory floor, NOT buying from miners would be like cutting your nose out of spite.

Depends, how badly do you really need a luxury product and how much do you care about doing fair business in a grand scale of things. But at the same time, the 'normal' second hand market is in fact the very best example of efficiency and re-use of goods, and should be encouraged.

It matters, the choices you make as an individual echo in the market. It always has and always will. Thinking 'but everyone does it, so why wouldn't I do it too'... it won't help you in the long run if it doesn't suit your normal way of doing business.

Its also a matter of what you want to belong to. Mining is the very bottom of society's ladder. Let's be clear about that. And it will always be just that. Question is how low will you go. The fact more people do mining doesn't change that either. Its wasteful and the only purpose is making money out of speculation. Some people lose sleep over it, some don't. And this defines who you are.

Values and ethics are like trust. Easy to lose, very hard to gain.
 
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Likewise, undervolting GPU's "vCore" also does nothing for persistently higher (often approaching triple digits) VRAM temps, and that's something that hardly any miner mentions in the sales pitch either.
True, but no miner gets far with VRAM that overheats either. It's basically required to keep it within spec, or you get errors.

Most mitigate this by running the fans >80% static which is it's own issue.
 

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That's a great way to not only miss a deal, but keep GPU prices elevated out of spite.


The real issue has nothing to do with clocks. Those are mostly unaffected if it was run right / has proper bios. It's all about the moving parts. Fans can and do fail, so be aware of that and ready to replace.

I am by no means suggesting pay full price. Treat it like it is: well used hardware.

All the mining GTX 1080s from my old series of articles here are still in gaming rigs AFAIK.

A friend of mine bought a 1080 Ti that was used for mining. Performance was 10% below stock 1080 Ti perf in benches. We changed TIM, performance went up 5%
The card died after 3 months. After 2 months he got BSODs and game freezing. Underclocking helped for about 1 month, then the card died completely.

So yeah, I won't be paying much for former hardware that have been abused.
 
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what's the problem with a GPU that runs within spec, mostly heavily undervolted and at ~ 50-75% of it's Powerlimit?
i'd rather buy a mining card than a GPU that has been in a gaming PC that has two casefans at 800 RPM and tons of dust and maybe residue from a smoker inside.
 
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A friend of mine bought a 1080 Ti that was used for mining. Performance was 10% below stock 1080 Ti perf in benches. We changed TIM, performance went up 5%
The card died after 3 months. After 2 months he got BSODs and game freezing. Underclocking helped for about 1 month, then the card died completely.

So yeah, I won't be paying much for former hardware that have been abused.
Sounds like it had been reflashed. There is a reason I mentioned that.

You shouldn't pay much. It's a gamble and the sellers honesty weighs heavily on it. Treat it like that. And even if it works out, fans may fail anyways. That's not something a new card will do to you.

Most I'd ever pay for ex-mining hardware is ~1/3rd of MSRP, and that'd be generous.
 
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Mining cards tend to run way lower clockspeeds after months/year of 24/7 usage.
ive brought over 10 in the last few years for myself and customers "who know there exminers" without problems and i allways change the paste and pads and as far as i know there all still running fine at a 3rd of the price of a new card. i dont buy S/H hds or ssd because they are hard to judge how good they are and you never know what its been used for.
 
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There is absolutely no reason a regular GPU can't run prolonged periods of time at 100% utilization. They're engineered for it. The cooling is even adequate for it in a gaming load. Who didn't game all day for once, with a higher power target (110%>) and memory OC? Exactly.

The biggest issues are reflashed cards and broken fans, plus the fact you're (more often than not, especially if its about bulk) buying from that mentioned bottom end of the social ladder, which increases the risk anyway.
 
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^ That's the issue though:-

Guy who looked after cards, undervolted them = "I looked after my cards, undervolted them, etc"

Guy who OC'd his to the max because his parents / university / place of work were paying the electricity bill = Sees "I looked after my cards, undervolted them, etc" cards selling better because of including that phrase, and simply copy / pastes "I looked after my cards, undervolted them, etc" too and you, me, and everyone else hasn't any real clue of whether the cards really were "kept the cards under proper conditions" or not... Likewise, undervolting GPU's "vCore" also does nothing for persistently higher (often approaching triple digits) VRAM temps, and that's something that hardly any miner mentions in the sales pitch either.

True but that also goes for gamer's selling their OCed cards used for years in a shitty no airflow case in a dirty room and never cleaning out their cards.
If you ask me thats even worse and sadly its not even rare to find such users who don't take care of anything really.

Thats why when I sold my RX 570 I took pics of my PC and told the person this is what I took it out of so its fairly clean since I keep my PC and room clean.
The previous owner also did the same when he sold me the 570, and since it had years of warranty it wasn't really a risk.

Current 1070 is supposedly not a miner card since it was a single sale and I met the person to check things out before buying.
Its running at low temps and no fan issues, dead silent and still pushes the supposed clock speeds too.

So yea you are right that can be an issue but thats not exclusive to miner cards.

That's a great way to not only miss a deal, but keep GPU prices elevated out of spite.


The real issue has nothing to do with clocks. Those are mostly unaffected if it was run right / has proper bios. It's all about the moving parts. Fans can and do fail, so be aware of that and ready to replace.

I am by no means suggesting pay full price. Treat it like it is: well used hardware.

All the mining GTX 1080s from my old series of articles here are still in gaming rigs AFAIK.

Yup thats not really an issue from mining.
I know most of you don't like Linus around here but he did check this exact subject out some time ago:
 
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Yup thats not really an issue from mining.
I know most of you don't like Linus around here but he did check this exact subject out some time ago:

Ah... so the newest fashion is actively trying to look like a bum now? So happy we have Linus to tell us what's streetwise these days :kookoo:
Or he dressed for the occasion... :p
 
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I wish those cards would stay in those racks forever. No gamer should ever have to buy a second-hand card from a miner, even if the price is right. Unfortunately, people don't know how to take their hands off of their wallets these days, so they'll still buy crap from these losers just as they do from the scalpers. :shadedshu:
That’s my opinion as well. Stick it to them wait it out and buy new. Leave them with their investment.
 
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