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I don't see massive amounts of airflow over your VRMs, you have way more than enough cooling capacity, and all it would cost is a couple lengths of tubing, so I'd say go for it. The barbs on the board are 3/8, which it looks like you're already using.

The only downside will be some added flow resistance and it's not really necessary. Resistance will be more than ideal, unfortunately.

Check out this thread on the [H]ard forums.
tl;dr: Heat isn't an issue to begin with.
I have many tubing at home so that wouldn't be a problem, just that where I buy all the components they don't have water blocks for my GPU..

I found These waterblocks by Acquatuning,
Can you tell me which one would be better for my EVGA Geforce 4GB GTX 770 ACX ?

http://www.aquatuning.de/wasserkuehlung/gpu-kuehler/gpu-komplettkuehler/?p=1&f=253|350|2089|2135
 
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Finally I found and ordered a waterblock and backplate for my GPU,
Now everything start getting a bit difficult because cooling a single component it's more easy than cooling 2 components at the same time, all this because there is more tube to add to the loop, now I'm figuring out in which order the tubes should be set up, can someone give me some advices about it?
 
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The actual order doesn't matter a whole lot since the inlet vs outlet temperature difference per device is going to be less than a single degree. The generally accepted way is res (or tee) > pump > radiator > devices.
 
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+1 XVI... Res before pump and loop order doesn't matter.

I haven't read the thread but dont bother cooling your motherboard. It wont get you any more performance (unless perhaps you are rocking an AMD OCTO), and the blocks are usually restrictive.
 
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The actual order doesn't matter a whole lot since the inlet vs outlet temperature difference per device is going to be less than a single degree. The generally accepted way is res (or tee) > pump > radiator > devices.
But having 2 radiators i was thinking a different order, this is my idea:
Reservoir, pump, 420 radiator, CPU, 240 radiator, GPU and than back reservoir,
Because my theory is that instead from CPU direct to GPU I could avoid that doing CPU second 240 rad and than GPU
Could that work?
As i said that's just my theory. .
 
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But having 2 radiators i was thinking a different order, this is my idea:
Reservoir, pump, 420 radiator, CPU, 240 radiator, GPU and than back reservoir,
Because my theory is that instead from CPU direct to GPU I could avoid that doing CPU second 240 rad and than GPU
Could that work?
As i said that's just my theory. .
That is similar to what I do, my system goes Reservoir, Pump, CPU, 140mm rad, GPU's, 360Rad, and then it circles back around. In reality the differences are minimal if there are any but this was just the easiest way for me to setup my system.

I would not lose sleep over it though, your temps will be fine with your system no matter what way you do it.
 
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That is similar to what I do, my system goes Reservoir, Pump, CPU, 140mm rad, GPU's, 360Rad, and then it circles back around. In reality the differences are minimal if there are any but this was just the easiest way for me to setup my system.

I would not lose sleep over it though, your temps will be fine with your system no matter what way you do it.
now that my GPU will be watercooled and i have 4 fans pulling air to it should i still leave those fans in the side panel pulling air?
 
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now that my GPU will be watercooled and i have 4 fans pulling air to it should i still leave those fans in the side panel pulling air?
Normally in my book I would say equalizing air pressure is the best way for airflow. So I would say if you have an equal amount of intake and exhaust with the setup yes. Otherwise try to find a way to equalize it.

My reasoning is simple, with positive airflow the air will get forced out of the case in one way or another however it will eventually stalemate for a bit inside causing excessive heat. Alternatively, if you have more fans exhausting (Negative airflow) it will pull air in from cracks or crevasses inside the case (Which since I use dust filters, ruins the point of them for me because it will pull air from anywhere it can instead of the filtered areas).
 
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Normally in my book I would say equalizing air pressure is the best way for airflow. So I would say if you have an equal amount of intake and exhaust with the setup yes. Otherwise try to find a way to equalize it.

My reasoning is simple, with positive airflow the air will get forced out of the case in one way or another however it will eventually stalemate for a bit inside causing excessive heat. Alternatively, if you have more fans exhausting (Negative airflow) it will pull air in from cracks or crevasses inside the case (Which since I use dust filters, ruins the point of them for me because it will pull air from anywhere it can instead of the filtered areas).
Thanks Bro, I really appreciate your advices and time
 
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That is similar to what I do, my system goes Reservoir, Pump, CPU, 140mm rad, GPU's, 360Rad, and then it circles back around. In reality the differences are minimal if there are any but this was just the easiest way for me to setup my system.

I would not lose sleep over it though, your temps will be fine with your system no matter what way you do it.
I dont want to open a new thread and thats why I want to ask something here,
I am right now working on my GPU and i want to now if I can apply the same thermal paste that I use for my CPU to my GPU?
 
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I dont want to open a new thread and thats why I want to ask something here,
I am right now working on my GPU and i want to now if I can apply the same thermal paste that I use for my CPU to my GPU?
Yes, you are fine using the same as I do the same thing for my rig (I use Arctic MX2).
 
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I dont want to open a new thread and thats why I want to ask something here,
I am right now working on my GPU and i want to now if I can apply the same thermal paste that I use for my CPU to my GPU?
Yep. Heat is heat and goop is goop.
 
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Yep. Heat is heat and goop is goop.
I have another question, I already mounted the GPU block to it but now I am confused, which one is in and which one out.
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which one is in and which one out.
Yes. :p

Either or. Doesn't particularly matter on most GPU blocks. Only time it does is on most CPU blocks.
 
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I have another question, I already mounted the GPU block to it but now I am confused, which one is in and which one out.
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Does not matter, normally just go with whatever fits best for your rig. My way is the far left hole on top, come out the far right hole on the bottom. But that's just a personal preference.
 
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That kink that was bothering you - you can use an anti-kink coil to eliminate it. They're not magic, but they do work. If you don't like the looks of it, you'll just have to use an angled fitting or re-route the tubing to fix it.

You'll enjoy having your GPU under water.

For reference, I have an 1100T, MOBO VRM, PCH, SB, R9-290X all in the same loop with 3/8" ID tubing and 3x MCP350 (the universal GPU blocks I was using on my 5870 crossfire that I had before the R9 were *very* restrictive) using a 120MM rad and 240MM rad.

I have my 240MM (2 of them in push configuration) at 980RPM (as low as they go before shutting off) and my 120MM fans (2 of them in push-pull) at ~1000RPM; I'm running F@H right now and I've got 38C loop temp with 37C CPU, 53C GPU. Overclocked and 100% load. If I can run my fans almost *off* and get those temps at full load, you sir have enormous headroom for more components.

I only cooled the mobo because my board would drop the integrated NIC when overclocking with air - and my board's heatsink is monolithic, so I watercool all or nothing.



Finally I found and ordered a waterblock and backplate for my GPU,
Now everything start getting a bit difficult because cooling a single component it's more easy than cooling 2 components at the same time, all this because there is more tube to add to the loop, now I'm figuring out in which order the tubes should be set up, can someone give me some advices about it?
I did a lot of research before I built my loop a few years ago, and from all the different sources, the result was the same: Loop order doesn't matter (as long as you have enough flowrate). You get more of a difference in temp from the quality of your thermal paste, how much tubing the pump has to pump through, the type of fans being matched to type of rad, etc...

As has been said, the only really important things are:
1) You have enough flowrate (pump power - and having more than enough pump doesn't give you any extra performance once you have enough)
2) You put your reservoir or tee line directly before the pump(s) inlet so that it gets fluid immediately when you first fill it, is primed, and pushes it through the rest of the system.

Besides having the reservoir feeding the pump, you should be ordering your devices based on what will give you the least restrictive tubing setup; avoid 90degree fittings unless they save you more than ~5" of tubing, and order the flow to use the least amount of tubing for optimal flowrate. Or, order your devices for best looks if that's your concern; just be aware that if doing so causes you to be using a lot more tubing, performance will suffer somewhat if the pump can't keep the ~1GPM or better sweet spot for flowrate.
 
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That kink that was bothering you - you can use an anti-kink coil to eliminate it. They're not magic, but they do work. If you don't like the looks of it, you'll just have to use an angled fitting or re-route the tubing to fix it.

You'll enjoy having your GPU under water.

For reference, I have an 1100T, MOBO VRM, PCH, SB, R9-290X all in the same loop with 3/8" ID tubing and 3x MCP350 (the universal GPU blocks I was using on my 5870 crossfire that I had before the R9 were *very* restrictive) using a 120MM rad and 240MM rad.

I have my 240MM (2 of them in push configuration) at 980RPM (as low as they go before shutting off) and my 120MM fans (2 of them in push-pull) at ~1000RPM; I'm running F@H right now and I've got 38C loop temp with 37C CPU, 53C GPU. Overclocked and 100% load. If I can run my fans almost *off* and get those temps at full load, you sir have enormous headroom for more components.

I only cooled the mobo because my board would drop the integrated NIC when overclocking with air - and my board's heatsink is monolithic, so I watercool all or nothing.




I did a lot of research before I built my loop a few years ago, and from all the different sources, the result was the same: Loop order doesn't matter (as long as you have enough flowrate). You get more of a difference in temp from the quality of your thermal paste, how much tubing the pump has to pump through, the type of fans being matched to type of rad, etc...

As has been said, the only really important things are:
1) You have enough flowrate (pump power - and having more than enough pump doesn't give you any extra performance once you have enough)
2) You put your reservoir or tee line directly before the pump(s) inlet so that it gets fluid immediately when you first fill it, is primed, and pushes it through the rest of the system.

Besides having the reservoir feeding the pump, you should be ordering your devices based on what will give you the least restrictive tubing setup; avoid 90degree fittings unless they save you more than ~5" of tubing, and order the flow to use the least amount of tubing for optimal flowrate. Or, order your devices for best looks if that's your concern; just be aware that if doing so causes you to be using a lot more tubing, performance will suffer somewhat if the pump can't keep the ~1GPM or better sweet spot for flowrate.
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But having 2 radiators i was thinking a different order, this is my idea:
Reservoir, pump, 420 radiator, CPU, 240 radiator, GPU and than back reservoir,
Because my theory is that instead from CPU direct to GPU I could avoid that doing CPU second 240 rad and than GPU
Could that work?
As i said that's just my theory. .
Jumping in a little late, but that's exactly how I'd do it. Are you doing the MB or not?

And the order won't really affect flow rate in a series loop. The less fittings the better, but there's a point at which more fittings don't really affect flow rate that much, the whole loop starts moving in laminar flow around 1-2GPGM.
 
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Jumping in a little late, but that's exactly how I'd do it. Are you doing the MB or not?

And the order won't really affect flow rate in a series loop. The less fittings the better, but there's a point at which more fittings don't really affect flow rate that much, the whole loop starts moving in laminar flow around 1-2GPGM.
I just add the GPU, I won't cool the MB, maybe if one day I am bored and don't nothing to do I will cool the MB , btw my temperatures were down from 70 degrees in full load to 42 degrees, I am impressed
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I just add the GPU, I won't cool the MB, maybe if one day I am bored and don't nothing to do I will cool the MB , btw my temperatures were down from 70 degrees in full load to 42 degrees, I am impressed
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Looking good and you got your priorities right, great results :) I have a 290x that's begging for a waterblock!
 
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Looking good and you got your priorities right, great results :) I have a 290x that's begging for a waterblock!
Well go for it.
I had thought that watercooling the GPU was going to cool down in full load maybe 10 or 15 degrees less than when wasn't watercooled, but I never ever expected that it could be cooled 30 degrees less after watercooled.
 
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Well go for it.
I had thought that watercooling the GPU was going to cool down in full load maybe 10 or 15 degrees less than when wasn't watercooled, but I never ever expected that it could be cooled 30 degrees less after watercooled.
You apparently don't realize how much cooling capacity you've got :toast: