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Mouse Pads: Plastic, Cloth, Metal or Glass OH MY!!!

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I can't imagine a glass mousepad would sense a laser mouse well as it would refract the light.

As for mousepads, I am into fabrics, but don't swear by my words as I get my mousepads from the dollar store!
the icemat which is now called the steelseries experience i-1 and i-2 has been around since 2000 they were originally designed for ball and opticals. on steelseries website they still list them as ball and optical doesn't mean lasers will not work.

 
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What sensor does the sidewinder use? The sidewinder uses 2 optics (never seen that before).
Sidewinder X3 uses the Avago ADNS-6010 and the Sidewinder X8 uses the Bluetrack 4000 Sensor.

not sure what the other Sidewinders are using.

one thing I want to discuss quickly are the Logitech Setpoint drivers specifically why people say not to install them with the Logitech MX-518 (ADNS-3080E) but don't give a real reason as to why.




thats why.

this graph shows no matter what CPI setting the mouse is set to with Setpoint installed shows data saturation, it is a problem with the mouse. it is recommended not to install Setpoint, overclock the USB port and set the CPI to a low number.
 
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setpoint was the reason why I went to the sidewinder in the 1st place. I had a horrible time trying to get those drivers to work properly and if they didn't I could never install them a 2nd time.
 
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My main issue with using anything but cloth would be my wrist sticking to the surface due to perspiration. I went from a plastic surfaced fragmat to my now in surface cloth Steelseries mat - I cant use my desk as the wood is too uneven / grainy, and I know that if I tried glass or metal that id just end up getting stuck to it, I get sweaty wrists during long gaming sessions.
 
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My main issue with using anything but cloth would be my wrist sticking to the surface due to perspiration. I went from a plastic surfaced fragmat to my now in surface cloth Steelseries mat - I cant use my desk as the wood is too uneven / grainy, and I know that if I tried glass or metal that id just end up getting stuck to it, I get sweaty wrists during long gaming sessions.
I had that problem as well the solution is to buy a paintball, basketball or baseball sleeve they are made out of nylon. many professional gamers use them because they create less friction when they rest their arm on a chair, desk or surface.
 
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never heard of that before - something I may have to look in to, cheers for the suggestion.
 
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your welcome.

for sweaty palms some professional gamers use gloves but I have a better solution.



it comes in Yellow, White, Black, Red, Clear and Blue.

pop the housing off your mouse. wipe it down with a tack cloth so there is no dirt. lay some newspaper down on the floor. place the housing on it. give it a good spray. wait 4 hours to air dry. the more coatings you spray the thicker the rubber coating is but the rubber coating actually feels more like leather and it should improve grip.




this is a Intellimouse with Plasti Dip (Clear) on the housing and Plasti Dip (Black) on the buttons.
 
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I have this running on this and luckily I dont get stuck to it when gaming. The mat set me back £5 (absolute bargain) and the mouse has grip replacements, im using the bumpy control one, not the smooth comfort one as that makes my hand go mad.
 
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Id do that but I have a G9, thats not getting sprayed. Ever. :)
I understand your reluctance.

I was able to purchase a can for $9 CDN online I tried it on a old ball mouse buried in my closet that I spent more time cleaning than applying the plasti dip to. there was some trial and error but I ended up applying it to the housing on my Ikari Laser and it came out great.

the G9 would benefit more I imagine since you would be applying it to the grips and not the housing makes it risk free. you can apply it to the grip you use the least. also because there is 1mm of space between each grip and the housing on the mouse if you spray the underside of the grip it should be more secure.
 

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Really I couldn't stand using this, the tracking was good and really smooth but the only way I can describe the feeling was 'nails on a chalkboard' - it just ate away at my head and I had to stop.

Cloth pad: Razer Mantis Control/speed and Goliathus control.
The speed surface was nice and smooth bit I've grown very accustomed to the slightly more bumpy feel of the control surface they make for their cloth mats (largely the same for Mantis and Goliathus IMO) I have always used their largest size, and the surface provides very tactile feedback for tracking, I feel the ever so slight bumpiness compared to a completely smooth surface helps me quantify smaller mouse movements for precision sniping etc.

I have never found thickness to be an issue however when my hand is resting partially on the mat it can get a little sweaty.

After reading this thread I am very tempted to drop the $23 AUD on a sphex and give it a try, but I am skeptical however of that 'nails on a chalkboard' feeling again.
 

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Tiles for a mouse pad. The unorthodox approach...

I like to know which color works best for laser mice?
The color white reflects light as it's comprised of many different colors do to reflection of light.
The color black is the absence of light and color thus absorbs the most light.

Between the 2 which works best for laser or optic mouse? The darker the color the more light it can absorb.

Right now, I am using a standard glossy white tile and so far it's working pretty good for $1 purchase :). I choose glossy because a rougher surface can wear down your skates.






I am going to need to find a black glossy title to do a comparison.

Update:
In hindsight of using the semi flat tile (found in my later post). The higher gloss of this title caused the mouse to not track as well. So, I am no longer use it.
 
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I prefer Razer rougher surfaces and Steelseries clothe pads.
 

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This title has a semi flat surface. This one is far better then the glossy surface tile. The best way to describe it is that the cursor's movements on the screen is perceived to me as being more natural to what the mouse is doing on the tile itself in real time (IE: no lag).

I am still researching on were I can find black tiles without the decorative attributes.

In total if you decide to go this route it will cost your about $5-$6. You will need to buy none slip material which is less then $4-$5 and is in the same section as the titles in your local hardware store (Lowes, Home Depot, etc). The title itself should be no more then $1.0X.
 
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I've tried very few mouse pads. They range from the old thick blue (or red) cloth covered ones to the thin cheap plasticy ones you get for free because they suck so bad. I stick by the old thick ones, even with my MX1000 (High Perf. Laser I believe) for comfort (my wrist likes squidgy surfaces) and the fact that they've provided better results than the cheap plastic ones.

I imagine some of these performance ones would be better, but I currently have a stockpile of the old thick ones that are each at least 10-15 years old and won't die. Therefore I keep using them.

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I prefer Razer rougher surfaces and Steelseries clothe pads.
I found that my knock off Rocketfish which from what I hear performs just like a Razer metal two sided pad to track worse than my QCK+ and miles behind my Ratpadz XT. The XT if it were bigger would be the perfect pad, imo. The size dosen't seem to be a problem to a lot of people you may like it.


I have this http://www.google.com/products?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS339US339&sourceid=chrome&q=rocketfish+mouse+pad&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=nSrrSrm1DJO-MLe39YMM&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQzAMwAA

And love it, the center is anodized metal and on each side its textured, one side more than the other, and it has rubber feet at each corner so it doesnt slide around. Very tough, looks cool, and works great. Best mouse pad I have ever had.
Thats the one. Not bad but there are better options.

Keep in mind that I had a sidewinder as well.
 
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I found all mouse pads are pretty much it until your decrease sensitivity of add smoothing. you can right out it that way seriously.
 

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Wow, I tried COD:WAW and the semi flat looking tile works incredibly well. Using only the M1A1 Carbine (semi-automatic, meaning: pull the trigger one round will fire) I did exceptionally well against those using the Thompson and the PPSh-41 (fully automatic, meaning: pull the trigger and several rounds will fire until the cartridge is exhausted). which are the weapons of choice for this game.
 
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I like to know which color works best for laser mice?
The color white reflects light as it's comprised of many different colors do to reflection of light.
The color black is the absence of light and color thus absorbs the most light.

Between the 2 which works best for laser or optic mouse? The darker the color the more light it can absorb.

Right now, I am using a standard glossy white tile and so far it's working pretty good for $1 purchase :). I choose glossy because a rougher surface can wear down your skates.


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/mousepad1.jpg



I am going to need to find a black glossy title to do a comparison.

Update:
In hindsight of using the semi glossy tilt (found in my later post). The higher gloss of this title caused the mouse to not track as well. So, I am no longer use it.
both optical and laser mice and designed to project a light, the light is reflected back to the CMOS, CMOS creates low to medium resolution gray-scale images and sends them to the DSP, DSP detects changes in patterns between movements, DSP calculates how far the mouse has moved using a coordinate system.

the light in a laser is much higher in energy than a light emitting diode and produces a speckle pattern allowing it to resolve shiny and transparent surfaces

somethings still don't make sense optical sensors were never designed to track on shiny and transparent surfaces but you can see the Bluetrack 4000 Optical Sensor doesn't have a problem. early laser sensors were designed to track on shiny and transparent surfaces but were not able to.

I think the answer is in the DSP (Digital Signal Processor)
 
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Well I prefer my glass mouse pad; I have yet to EVER see a tracking issue due to the steelseries I picked up was designed for laser mice. I prefer this mouse pad because it is solid and that REALLY helps me due to the face I have my PC at the foot of my bed, and my mouse go on my lap and my keyboard on my left side!
 

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So in some ways you do want a surface that is reflective for laser mice (white for example). Interesting...
 
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if the CMOS is designed to read reflected light, why wouldn't white be the best choice for a surface? why would Razer release three white surfaces in the last 12 months (destructor special edition, pro pad and megasoma) if they didn't work with their flagship models?
 
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I have used both cloth and this glass, and I must say that this mouse pad is VERY good, it doesn’t have a reflective piece of glass, rather it is kind of tinted black, and has a black paint on the back… I haven’t noticed a tracking problems what so ever. And to solve the problem of my hand sticking to the surface Kyle2020 has mentioned I use a Razer Lachesis with my DPi at 4000. I don't move my wrist from where I set it.
 
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