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When XS site went down, some of them did fold/crunch and post for TPU. Give credit where due.

Of course they did, and it was very appreciated. I have nothing but respect for many of those guys. However, CP's post above explains why I will not go out of my way to participate in their competition.
 

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Agreed. While they helped I do not think they expect us to join them. This is more of a site thing. Like if TPU went down I would fold for them if I went to XS. Like they folded for us when they were here. Their good guys and people just like us. They respct us we respect them. However in the case of "compititions" for lack of a better term. I dont think either of us (TPU/XS) would expect anything from the other.
 

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I agree with CP. I am all too familiar with the cold shoulder of XS. We are good on our own. Better yet, if anyone is feeling philanthropic, why not focus their efforts on helping promote small teams as Rammie has done.
 

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Hi Guys,
Maybe time for me to explain the details of what you saw.
First thing is that my intent was just aimed at the XtremeSystems guys.
No thought at all of taking any people from other teams and in fact when I posted a link to what we were attempting over at IBM's WCG forum a guy from another team said we'll come and help and I told him no, that wasn't what we were trying to do.
It's just to get the regular XS guys who aren't into DC to come and see if all the machinery we have at XS equals the worlds great supercomputers.
I happen to think it does. I know the IBM WCG developers, they told me they could give close estimates of teraflops( hopefully petraflops) and it seemed like a good way to go with the added benefit of getting extra work down for WCG..
That simple, no sneaky crap, just that black and white.
Now I saw here that someone came to Xs from TPU asking for help and they got a cold shoulder? I wasn't aware of this.
I know 123bob and others came here to help with your WCG team and that was good of them.
I didn't but it wasn't because of any animosity to TPU, it was because I'm very closely ascoiated with Xs WCG team and that is my home and I don't travel from it.
Not personal at all and I have nothing but respect for the TPU guys here.
Thanks for reading,
Dave
 

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Hi Guys,
Maybe time for me to explain the details of what you saw.
First thing is that my intent was just aimed at the XtremeSystems guys.
No thought at all of taking any people from other teams and in fact when I posted a link to what we were attempting over at IBM's WCG forum a guy from another team said we'll come and help and I told him no, that wasn't what we were trying to do.
It's just to get the regular XS guys who aren't into DC to come and see if all the machinery we have at XS equals the worlds great supercomputers.
I happen to think it does. I know the IBM WCG developers, they told me they could give close estimates of teraflops( hopefully petraflops) and it seemed like a good way to go with the added benefit of getting extra work down for WCG..
That simple, no sneaky crap, just that black and white.
Now I saw here that someone came to Xs from TPU asking for help and they got a cold shoulder? I wasn't aware of this.
I know 123bob and others came here to help with your WCG team and that was good of them.
I didn't but it wasn't because of any animosity to TPU, it was because I'm very closely ascoiated with Xs WCG team and that is my home and I don't travel from it.
Not personal at all and I have nothing but respect for the TPU guys here.
Thanks for reading,
Dave

:toast: well said.
 
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Whatever the misunderstanding that XS and TPU has, in the long run we are all helping in our own "small way". WCG becomes "big" because each of the hundreds of thousands of members contribute individually.

As for team XS's project, much props to you guys!:respect: As Movieman has already clarified, the project was intended for XS members. And I wish them good luck on this task! I know they would meet their objective or maybe even surpass it given their "projected computing power"!;) If they achieve this goal then It would be a greater "Win" for those Cancer, AIDS, and MD patients!:)

Again, much thanks to XS's help to TPU!:rockout:

To XS on their upcoming Project! Go beat them SuperComputers! :toast:

Crunch on!
 
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Hi Guys,
Maybe time for me to explain the details of what you saw.
First thing is that my intent was just aimed at the XtremeSystems guys.
No thought at all of taking any people from other teams and in fact when I posted a link to what we were attempting over at IBM's WCG forum a guy from another team said we'll come and help and I told him no, that wasn't what we were trying to do.
It's just to get the regular XS guys who aren't into DC to come and see if all the machinery we have at XS equals the worlds great supercomputers.
I happen to think it does. I know the IBM WCG developers, they told me they could give close estimates of teraflops( hopefully petraflops) and it seemed like a good way to go with the added benefit of getting extra work down for WCG..
That simple, no sneaky crap, just that black and white.
Now I saw here that someone came to Xs from TPU asking for help and they got a cold shoulder? I wasn't aware of this.
I know 123bob and others came here to help with your WCG team and that was good of them.
I didn't but it wasn't because of any animosity to TPU, it was because I'm very closely ascoiated with Xs WCG team and that is my home and I don't travel from it.
Not personal at all and I have nothing but respect for the TPU guys here.
Thanks for reading,
Dave

GL to you all at XS. Crunch on! :toast:
 
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Hi Guys,
Maybe time for me to explain the details of what you saw.
First thing is that my intent was just aimed at the XtremeSystems guys.
No thought at all of taking any people from other teams and in fact when I posted a link to what we were attempting over at IBM's WCG forum a guy from another team said we'll come and help and I told him no, that wasn't what we were trying to do.
It's just to get the regular XS guys who aren't into DC to come and see if all the machinery we have at XS equals the worlds great supercomputers.
I happen to think it does. I know the IBM WCG developers, they told me they could give close estimates of teraflops( hopefully petraflops) and it seemed like a good way to go with the added benefit of getting extra work down for WCG..
That simple, no sneaky crap, just that black and white.
Now I saw here that someone came to Xs from TPU asking for help and they got a cold shoulder? I wasn't aware of this.
I know 123bob and others came here to help with your WCG team and that was good of them.
I didn't but it wasn't because of any animosity to TPU, it was because I'm very closely ascoiated with Xs WCG team and that is my home and I don't travel from it.
Not personal at all and I have nothing but respect for the TPU guys here.
Thanks for reading,
Dave

Hey Dave, thanks for stopping by and clearing this up. I knew it was for XS as I am a member and I received the email, but this got posted here and you know how that goes anywhere. Don't worry dude, nobody here has anything personal against you, and we all know the kinda person you are. As I said in previous post, good luck to you guys and I wish you'll the best with this little project you'll are trying to get going. :toast:

Whatever the misunderstanding that XS and TPU has, in the long run we are all helping in our own "small way". WCG becomes "big" because each of the hundreds of thousands of members contribute individually.

As for team XS's project, much props to you guys!:respect: As Movieman has already clarified, the project was intended for XS members. And I wish them good luck on this task! I know they would meet their objective or maybe even surpass it given their "projected computing power"!;) If they achieve this goal then It would be a greater "Win" for those Cancer, AIDS, and MD patients!:)

Again, much thanks to XS's help to TPU!:rockout:

To XS on their upcoming Project! Go beat them SuperComputers! :toast:

Crunch on!

There was not really a misunderstanding, just wanna make sure we are all on the same page. Actually, there wasn't a misunderstanding.

When XS site went down, some of them did fold/crunch and post for TPU. Give credit where due.

You bet we do, check my previous post :toast:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1855758&postcount=15

I agree with CP. I am all too familiar with the cold shoulder of XS. We are good on our own. Better yet, if anyone is feeling philanthropic, why not focus their efforts on helping promote small teams as Rammie has done.
RAMMIE :respect:
 
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There was not really a misunderstanding, just wanna make sure we are all on the same page. Actually, there wasn't a misunderstanding.

Good to know that Cap'n!:respect: This is why I love TPU! The people here rocks!:pimp:
 
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Good to know that Cap'n!:respect: This is why I love TPU! The people here rocks!:pimp:

no problem bro, we owe a big part of our success to them and I do acknowledge that :toast:
 

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I don't think any of you know but when XS went down I was a long time member of XS WCG.I had already taken walkabouts to other teams but always returned to XS.Just so happened that when XS went down I discovered that TPU had just started a team and thought what a great place to park my rigs for awhile.The rest is history.
 

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The entire BOINC project recently broke 5.0 PetaFLOPS.

The world's fastest super computer as of Novemeber 2009 was at 1.7 PetaFLOPS.

If more than 34% of all computers on BOINC are not working for XS (which they are not), it will not beat the world's fastest super computer. Even then, that 1.7 PetaFLOPS is CPU power only (LinPACK tested) where the 5.0 figure includes GPUs.
 
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The difference is not how many machines, but rather how much power the machines at XS have. Movieman is talking about getting more machines, than they currently have, from XS to crunch for at least a week to see if they can do it.

No matter how you spin it, it's not bad.. at least not for WCG. ;)

I'd like to see if they can do it, I know they have some powerful machines(that many people don't have)...
 
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Hi Guys,
Maybe time for me to explain the details of what you saw.
First thing is that my intent was just aimed at the XtremeSystems guys.
No thought at all of taking any people from other teams and in fact when I posted a link to what we were attempting over at IBM's WCG forum a guy from another team said we'll come and help and I told him no, that wasn't what we were trying to do.
It's just to get the regular XS guys who aren't into DC to come and see if all the machinery we have at XS equals the worlds great supercomputers.
I happen to think it does. I know the IBM WCG developers, they told me they could give close estimates of teraflops( hopefully petraflops) and it seemed like a good way to go with the added benefit of getting extra work down for WCG..
That simple, no sneaky crap, just that black and white.
Now I saw here that someone came to Xs from TPU asking for help and they got a cold shoulder? I wasn't aware of this.
I know 123bob and others came here to help with your WCG team and that was good of them.
I didn't but it wasn't because of any animosity to TPU, it was because I'm very closely ascoiated with Xs WCG team and that is my home and I don't travel from it.
Not personal at all and I have nothing but respect for the TPU guys here.
Thanks for reading,
Dave

I truly appreciate the explanation. Good luck with the competition! :toast:
 

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Everyone who crunches knows that we have teams. The teams are the fun we have competing, but they are not the reason that we crunch. It does not matter who crunches for whom, in the end we all win when it produces results.

Everyone jump over to the XS team for their attempt to see what we can do. They will all jump over here if we need them for something.

Crunch on.
 
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Hi Guys,
Maybe time for me to explain the details of what you saw.
First thing is that my intent was just aimed at the XtremeSystems guys.
No thought at all of taking any people from other teams and in fact when I posted a link to what we were attempting over at IBM's WCG forum a guy from another team said we'll come and help and I told him no, that wasn't what we were trying to do.
It's just to get the regular XS guys who aren't into DC to come and see if all the machinery we have at XS equals the worlds great supercomputers.
I happen to think it does. I know the IBM WCG developers, they told me they could give close estimates of teraflops( hopefully petraflops) and it seemed like a good way to go with the added benefit of getting extra work down for WCG..
That simple, no sneaky crap, just that black and white.
Now I saw here that someone came to Xs from TPU asking for help and they got a cold shoulder? I wasn't aware of this.
I know 123bob and others came here to help with your WCG team and that was good of them.
I didn't but it wasn't because of any animosity to TPU, it was because I'm very closely ascoiated with Xs WCG team and that is my home and I don't travel from it.
Not personal at all and I have nothing but respect for the TPU guys here.
Thanks for reading,
Dave

:eek:I say we keel haul em:eek:


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