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MP3 Player Charge: After battery runs out completely or Whenever i can charge it

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I bought a creative Zen 4GB, was wondering how should i charge it . SHould i let the battery run out and then charge it or should i charge it whenever possible with a lot of battery remaining .
 
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well I have a crappy MP3 Player and it uses a Lithium Ion Battery and to make them last longer your supposed to recharge about 50-75% through.

- Christine
 
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I found lettin the battery drain till emty then recharging provided much better battery life then chargin every day.
 
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I bought a creative Zen 4GB, was wondering how should i charge it . Should i let the battery run out and then charge it or should i charge it whenever possible with a lot of battery remaining .
always fully discharge an MP3 player before charging it, it ensures long battery life and prevents battery memory. E.g if you keep charging it at 75% battery, in future if you do it long enough it will only charge up to 75% capacity out of habit.
 
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Yep thats what happened with the old one i had basically it got to a stage were i be hardly playing it and the battery would be dying on me learnt my lesson with that one :/
 
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Yep thats what happened with the old one i had basically it got to a stage were i be hardly playing it and the battery would be dying on me learnt my lesson with that one :/
lesson i think most of us have learnt :laugh:

My phones just starting to do it, but thats because its like 2 years old and the batterys dying on me :(

Reason to buy an iPhone :D
 

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well I have a crappy MP3 Player and it uses a Lithium Ion Battery and to make them last longer your supposed to recharge about 50-75% through.

- Christine
Li-Ion doesn't have a memory effect, so recharging or discharging to a certain level doesn't matter.
 
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it's what it said. in the box I got there was a rebate card, warranty card, battery info card and user manual guide. said something about maximum results and the lifetime was about 18 months. oh yeah and of course a warning not to chew... *spits out green goo* :laugh:

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Most MP3 players, including the Zen series, use Li-Ion batteries, which do not have a memory affect, so you can charge it whenever you want. They do have a "shelf life" though, which means they start to loose the ability to hold a charge regardless of charge/discharge cycles.
 
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my mp3 player is a "COBY 2GB" it's touch screen, about an inch in dimension i've had it for about 10 months and now the screen is starting to degrade, artifact. never dropped it :(

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it's what it said. in the box I got there was a rebate card, warranty card, battery info card and user manual guide. said something about maximum results and the lifetime was about 18 months. oh yeah and of course a warning not to chew... *spits out green goo* :laugh:

- Christine
The fact that the battery will degrade is not related to the way you charge it though. ie the memory effect. As for chewing MP3 players, that's a complete lie, completely safe.
 
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I was only joking about the chewing. gullable?

- Christine
 
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always fully discharge an MP3 player before charging it, it ensures long battery life and prevents battery memory. E.g if you keep charging it at 75% battery, in future if you do it long enough it will only charge up to 75% capacity out of habit.
Nope, that's a left over myth from the days of Ni-Cad crappy batteries. In fact fully discharging a battery is actually bad for a Lithium Ion battery.

You should charge it when it gets to about 33%, and if for any reason you need to store the battery, leave it at 40% charge.

There is absolutely no need to "condition" the battery, of course the downside is that like the others have said, Li-ion has a Shelf Life.

I was only joking about the chewing. gullable?

- Christine
Sarcasm?
 
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I just try to get electronics that run off of double and triple As.

A 9.99$ pack of Li-Ion rechargables and my 30 minute charger keep me going for a good year or two before I just go back to Radioshack and buy me some more :)