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In that case, impressive results, and consider yourself lucky to have such nice equipment :)

I agree with the chap. It ain't that uncommon.

I am more concerned about one other thing, that tends to be ignored by many. Coil Whine. Everyone agrees it is there almost always and compared to what. Overly beefy VRM's tend to produce it less and is a serious VRM quality standpoint. Why often no it gets no mention at all, why it is not compared in between makers? The card costs nearly a grand, well at least could have done that right. Nobody buys the card to use it at half speed, FPS limited etc... It should always run up to 11.
 

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Why often no it gets no mention at all, why it is not compared in between makers
Because it is very hard to test for, even harder to properly measure and compare, and then how to compare? It also depends on used PSU + mobo. I am doing some research on this right now, bought a new microphone, but no promises
 
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@ $900 it should be "Highly NOT recommended " !
 
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You will never encounter sub 20 dBA in your life. Even at night in a very quiet area you'll reach 24 dBA maybe. At that point it is so quiet it becomes weird because you hear the blood flowing in your ears / notice minor tinnitus you have. I have had GPU engineers from TW here, who wanted to learn more about my noise testing, who said "it is scary quiet"

"Threshold of hearing" might work for high, clearly frequency-separated tones, but is completely useless for fan noise and similar

Thanks for that Input and reality check. I often feel some People really don't know what / how DB actually works or what they think is loud …. yes, 1 DB more can be a massive difference, but it's also relative depending on where you start and which frequencies you look at. But especially with our gaming rigs and stuff it's a mood Point to go below a certain threshold. A) it won't even be noticable below the table or more than 1m away from your ears. B) nearly no one games with an open bench - so there is a case around it which further reduces the noice. C) even our Keyboard and mouse are louder than that and Closer to us :D ;) (and there we don't even go into "and then they Play with expensive headphones or Speaker Systems turned up to max after spending 1k € to get their pc one more db down " ;) :) )


I helped a friend build his "super duper Cinema and Meditation room" …. he sound-proofed it beyond means (specially 3D-printed tiles similar to how the Sound-Reflectors in the Hamburg Opera-House work, just with Sound-Dampening materials) and had to remove a lot of it again. It gave you bad vibes as it was literally too silent (it was between 5 and 10DB baseline) in there and if you sat on the Meditation mat even with your relaxed / calm heartbeat it felt like the niagarafall would go through your Body - your bloodstream and heartbeat felt that loud (and we're just nod made to be in SUCH quiet Areas :D ).

Trying to get stuff "too silent" is just making Things worse in some cases ;)


Maybe they want to try out the anechoic chamber (-20DB) once, I mean it's only 99$ or so to see how loud silent can be ^^.
 
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prices are only real when they are backed by an actual product.. i would happily pay $900 for one of these if it meant i could actually get one..

so called MRP prices are just pie in the sky bullshit when there is no product behind them..

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Presenting Ray Tracing data in this way might be easier for people to follow. Takes tsv or csv as input, just a simple R script.

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What Unigine Heaven Benchmark settings are used for the OC data?
It's a custom run, nothing you can reproduce

And yet it still says "Highly Recommended". Does MSI pay you to keep it in Highly Recommended for a week or something?
I wish. At $800 I had it at Editor's Choice, because I would personally buy it with $800. But not at $900, it's still a really good card. A LOT of people will be interested in this, even at $900.

"Recommended" is our way of saying "it didn't make Editor's Choice", but it's better than "No award".

Any recommendations (lol), how to convey this meaning with a different award wording? btw, "Highly" is only there because the badge has more text in it, so it looks nicer typographically.
 

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And yet it still says "Highly Recommended". Does MSI pay you to keep it in Highly Recommended for a week or something?

It's a flagship product with incredible performance. It's that simple.
 
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Presenting Ray Tracing data in this way might be easier for people to follow. Takes tsv or csv as input, just a simple R script.

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Ray Tracing is a failure or just not ready for prime time. Maybe in a couple years, but Ray Tracing shouldn't be the reason why someone buys a GPU.
 

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Ray Tracing is a failure or just not ready for prime time. Maybe in a couple years, but Ray Tracing shouldn't be the reason why someone buys a GPU.
Speak for yourself. Ray tracing is about the only reason I'd upgrade from my 1060.
 
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So 430w for less performance than the 3090, why did they choose Samsung's node?

It's not like they have any better availability.

If I wanted one I would wait for a stock 3080 and throw a water cooler on it instead.
 
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Speak for yourself. Ray tracing is about the only reason I'd upgrade from my 1060.
The majority disagrees with you.
Maybe in 5 years RT will be better. But paying any type of premium for RT today or tomorrow is not worth it.
 

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The majority disagrees with you.
Maybe in 5 years RT will be better. But paying any type of premium for RT today or tomorrow is not worth it.
The majority of TPU users maybe. Everybody here loves AMD, they won't admit RT is worth anything until AMD reaches performance parity.
But as a tech enthusiast, I'd love to see what RT brings to the table. I'm not usually an early adopter, but this really piques my curiosity.
 
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The majority of TPU users maybe. Everybody here loves AMD, they won't admit RT is worth anything until AMD reaches performance parity.
But as a tech enthusiast, I'd love to see what RT brings to the table. I'm not usually an early adopter, but this really piques my curiosity.
I agree with you. I'm not happy for paying a premium for something that's not 100%.
Even if AMD had full support for it, I'm not interested in it. I rather ensure highest PQ for best frame rates.
But I get your curiosity about it.
 
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I agree with you. I'm not happy for paying a premium for something that's not 100%.
Even if AMD had full support for it, I'm not interested in it. I rather ensure highest PQ for best frame rates.
But I get your curiosity about it.

Were you born as an adult or something ? Real time RT is still in its infancy, even then it still show visual benefits compare to rasterization.

Ampere and RX6000 have about the same rasterized perf/dollar so you are not paying any premium for having real time RT anyways.

If you want the best price to performace, buy used previous gen console, because current gen consoles have RT too.
 
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Hell yea! MSI finally brought their A-game to Ampere! Their Gaming X Trio was so clearly corners cut designs, and its refreshing to see them take it seriously and make actually what might be the best 3080 as of now! Good VRM, the best cooler with an actual copper heat spreader and not shitty direct touch and the highest power limit. What else can you ask for really.
Its the same PCB as the Gaming X Trio

Gigabyte Auors Extreme 3080 is a 4 slot cooler so i doubt this MSI is larger than that
 
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Were you born as an adult or something ? Real time RT is still in its infancy, even then it still show visual benefits compare to rasterization.

Ampere and RX6000 have about the same rasterized perf/dollar so you are not paying any premium for having real time RT anyways.

If you want the best price to performace, buy used previous gen console, because current gen consoles have RT too.
You completely missed my original point. But it's alrighty
 
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You completely missed my original point. But it's alrighty

I can relate you to some company hiring people with 5 years of experience in some coding language that came out 2 years ago :roll: . Sounds very illogical, just like your original statement.
 
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I can relate you to some company hiring people with 5 years of experience in some coding language that came out 2 years ago :roll: . Sounds very illogical, just like your original statement.
:peace::lovetpu:
 
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Would it be possible to add the weight for future cards?
I think that would be useful info.
 

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Would it be possible to add the weight for future cards?
I think that would be useful info.
Sure, could, just not sure if it's worth it. I assume your underlying question is "will it sag?", and that's not really related to weight, but physical product design and length.
 
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