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MSI GX70 Gaming Series Notebook Combines Latest AMD Hardware for Crysis 3

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So what is this 8970m actually?
 
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You forgot to post the most relevant things, like price and country availability for shipping. :)

So what is this 8970m actually?
More likely a re-brand of 7970M card with performance similar with a 7770 Desktop GPU...
 
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You forgot to post the most relevant things, like price and country availability for shipping. :)



More likely a re-brand of 7970M card with performance similar with a 7770 Desktop GPU...
more likely 7850 i guess
 
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Lol at that CPU...:laugh:

They've built a Ferrari and given it the engine of a Ford Focus.
 

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Lol at that CPU...:laugh:

They've built a Ferrari and given it the engine of a Ford Focus.
As the price hasnt been mentioned, this may be an entry/mid level gaming laptop designed for those who want affordable mobile gaming.
 
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Lol at that CPU...:laugh:

They've built a Ferrari and given it the engine of a Ford Focus.
That CPU is still quite a bit better suited for modern games like crysis 3 then the similarly(higher) priced Intel mobile dual cores.

You can forget about getting an Intel mobile quad core in that laptop for the same price.
 
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This is the first "official" Richland powered laptop that I have seen offered. The A10-5750 is a good APU and will deliver impressive performance with low power consumption. I'm sure these will sell well as they deliver what the majority of consumers desire for performance and at a very nice price.

The reason prices are not mentioned in the story is because the Press Release did not include them. When these notebooks "officially" become available in a couple weeks, then the prices will be published.
 
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I'm rather happy with my Core i7-3612qm and GT 640M

I don't see the reason why laptops should get 1080p or more. The max resolution I would go for a laptop is 1600x900. Anything bigger than that is just a luxury :/
 
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That CPU is still quite a bit better suited for modern games like crysis 3 then the similarly(higher) priced Intel mobile dual cores.

You can forget about getting an Intel mobile quad core in that laptop for the same price.
Apparently this is expected to retail for around $1600 :eek:

MSI must be out of their minds to price it that high when it is just using an AMD quad core and not even an entry level mobile i7. Also if I'm not mistaken the 8xxxm series is just a rebrand of 7xxxm series is it not? Comparing it to a 7970m shows that it should have great performance at 1080p but is that AMD chip going to be able to stand up to games that are very CPU heavy? I also have to agree that it looks like a teen's laptop, it reminds me of my old Asus G50 :rolleyes:

As the price hasnt been mentioned, this may be an entry/mid level gaming laptop designed for those who want affordable mobile gaming.
If the pricing estimate I saw was any indication this is not going to be priced at an entry/mid level and using an 8970m makes that possibility even more slim as a real mid level laptop would use something considerably cheaper such as a 660m or an AMD equivalent.
 
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more likely 7850 i guess
Neh... Check some benches. The scores are even lower than a 7770, but that's also because of shitty processors in the laptops. :ohwell:
 
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Neh... Check some benches. The scores are even lower than a 7770, but that's also because of shitty processors in the laptops. :ohwell:

Huh? Lower than RHD 7770? So GTX 680M is slower as well by that definition. Doubt it.

Well, here's the thing:
1. Current benches are all versus systems w/ i7 IB mobile + GTX 680M, while the AMD one has just their flagship mobile A10-5750M... and it's still faster than it in most cases.
2. I read somewhere there'll also be a RHD 8990M, with 384bit bus or faster clocked RAM and 1536 cores. So even if on Intel vs Intel setups it's still slower than GTX 780M, they still have something up their sleeve. Like how RHD 6990M was to RHD 6970M.


Also, really? High end AMD laptop and all they can pair it with is STILL DDR3-1600 only? Especially since A10-5750M is practically the first mobile CPU/APU to officially support it.


Edit: Well, if it can do 40fps+ @ FHD @ High+FXAA in Crysis 3, I guess they have a valid selling point, not just full-on braindead gimmicks... like 90% of the marketing out there.
 
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Neh... Check some benches. The scores are even lower than a 7770, but that's also because of shitty processors in the laptops. :ohwell:
the 7970M itself its similiar than 7770 ,and now the 8970M is out and iam sure its more faster than 7970M and 7770 and since its using an shitty processor it lower the scores :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
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After all the incompatibility issues AMD has had with games over the years, I just don't think I'd ever buy anything with an AMD CPU in it anymore. The Steam/Bulldozer issues were a nightmare! So, I bought an HP ENVY DV7 (Core i7, 2.4-3.4Ghz and nvidia GeForce GT650m) and am very happy with it so far. Of course, it doesn't compare to most desktop gaming rigs, but for a laptop it performs great!
 
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After all the incompatibility issues AMD has had with games over the years, I just don't think I'd ever buy anything with an AMD CPU in it anymore. The Steam/Bulldozer issues were a nightmare! So, I bought an HP ENVY DV7 (Core i7, 2.4-3.4Ghz and nvidia GeForce GT650m) and am very happy with it so far. Of course, it doesn't compare to most desktop gaming rigs, but for a laptop it performs great!
Would you by any chance have a source for steam/bulldozer incompatibility issues? I'm using that combination for over a year now, never noticed anything and curious if I missed something?
 
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Would you by any chance have a source for steam/bulldozer incompatibility issues? I'm using that combination for over a year now, never noticed anything and curious if I missed something?
http://www.google.com/search?output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Bulldozer+Steam+issues&btnK=

Here are about 930,000 results from a Google search. Take your pick. It's a widely known issue in the Steam forums and AMD forums as well. AMD, to their credit have tried to remedy the issue, but to no avail - which is why I switched back to Intel processors.
 

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http://www.google.com/search?output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Bulldozer+Steam+issues&btnK=

Here are about 930,000 results from a Google search. Take your pick. It's a widely known issue in the Steam forums and AMD forums as well. AMD, to their credit have tried to remedy the issue, but to no avail - which is why I switched back to Intel processors.
A lot of those results are not related to that, and it seems a lot of it is because the BIOS have not been updated properly. It also seems it affected a few games on Steam, so to say they have had problems over the years is misleading. It got resolved. It's not like Intel (and motherboard manufacturers) have not had problems. I had a first gen Bulldozer and didn't have problems at all, even with the reported titles (mainly Deus Ex HR and some Total War game).
 
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A lot of those results are not related to that, and it seems a lot of it is because the BIOS have not been updated properly. It also seems it affected a few games on Steam, so to say they have had problems over the years is misleading. It got resolved. It's not like Intel (and motherboard manufacturers) have not had problems. I had a first gen Bulldozer and didn't have problems at all, even with the reported titles (mainly Deus Ex HR and some Total War game).
Of course all results are not related, but he wanted some links to info and I provided it.
My comment about AMD processors having issues through the years is not misleading. I have been in the PC hardware game for a long, long time. I used to own PCExtreme.net from 1999-2005, at which point I sold it, but I have done my fair share of CPU reviews and can say with certainty that AMD has had - by far - more issues than Intel with their CPUs.
I'm not saying AMD CPU's are bad. I'm not a fanboy of either brand. I just use what works.
In my particular case, I had an ASRock mobo and AMD Bulldozer, and the rig worked great except that Steam would crash and lock up. You ARE correct in that the issue was motherboard specific in my case, but the combo was a pretty popular CPU/mobo combo and I personally knew 3 other guys with the same issue, and spoke with numerous others in forums.

Anyway... I finally got tired of it and sold it to a non-gamer and built a new Core i7-3820/ASUS Rampage Extreme IV mobo/EVGA GTX670 and it absolutely takes anything I throw at it.

:D
 

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You said they have had issues with games over the years, which is misleading. They might have had more issues overall, but afaik none of them save this one is only about games.
 
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You said they have had issues with games over the years, which is misleading. They might have had more issues overall, but afaik none of them save this one is only about games.
Well then, I stand corrected. AMD has had more issues in general - not just gaming... LMAO