Discussion in 'Reviews' started by W1zzard, Oct 8, 2013.
To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_280X_Gaming/
A gaming edition card that overheats...while gaming. Well played MSI!
Ouch! So this card looks like a reference 7970 pcb, possibly with an extra vrm?
Where can one get those 13.11 beta drivers?
not to mention unimpressive power draw and maximum clock.Well,what do i expect?this just a complete salvage 7970.i thought that 28nm had mature process this card could better in performance.
It seems to me like AMD is struggling for a foothold in the market, unless they really make some huge breakthrough with their APU's and getting much more powerful gpu's under the hood i really don't see them in the near future which would be bad for everyone competition wise
A bit better than the 7970GHZ and $100 cheaper than it and the 770.
Would be the card for me at the moment.
I would have thought what is basically the same card for $280 with a bundle that lets you choose what games you get (rather than predetermined by AMD with the R9) would be the better deal personally
I'm usually wrong about everything I post it seems.
Have fun with your non-GHz edition 7970 and games I either already have or don't want.
The GHz cards are priced at Newegg from $370 to $400. But I wouldn't be wrong then.
it has tremendous overclocking ability but not with its cooler.
Oh MSI, seriously?
well, wait for R9-290X then.. (cfx + full waterblock = win )
edit : added comparation with ASUS R9-280X DC II TOP
If I remember right there was an early leaked Fan Noise test done on a few R9 280Xs. This MSI model had an annoying hum to it (coil whine). The Asus was quiet.
One thing I noticed is MSI seams to be the only one so far to not adapt the reference R9 280x display output layout.
MSI R9 280X Noise test
ASUS R9 280X Noise test
In Thailand (1$ = 31 Baht)
R7-250 cost 128$
R7-260X cost 171-187$
R9-270X cost 258$
R9-280X cost 355-403$
R9-290X cost 791$
So, confirmed then. R9 280X versus GTX770 is 7970 (ghz) versus 680. Whoopty do. This is boring. Seriously, just read the reviews W1zz posted 1-2 years ago from both AMD and Nvidia. At least AMD pricing is better.
the card is good , its just the MSI's version that is really bad .
i saw the review of the ASUS 280x and its a very good card with low temps and low noise .
+ its about 80-100 cheapers then a GTX 770 and equal in performance , i think thats a WIN!
All I want is one with a shorter pcb, even if it clocks relatively poorly in comparison to others. It would still be a better deal/card than a 760/670.
They can cool the memory/vrm with plastic like xfx, or apparently have a cooler that sucks at life like MSI...I don't care. Just scrunch those ram chips and that asic together a half-inch shorter, give me voltage control/unlocked clocks, and I will be a happy dude.
I imagine it will happen at some point, but the fact it isn't at launch when this chip is 2 years old, 7970 has some designs like this, and it's competition more-or-less (unless you really want to compare it to 770) prides itself on this is sad. That used to be the whole point of a new gen...the last gen's performance (more-or-less) in a smaller form-factor (+/- a few watts to fit one pci-e power spec lower) at one notch down the pricing scale. 1 out of 3 ain't bad, I guess.
Dig the pricing/performance relative to the competition, but it sure would be nice to find something better than Pitcairn to put in my htpcs other than an artificially-limited OG 7970.
Expressing a personal opinion on my preference equals a personal attack on you?
Last time I got that kind of overreaction the person I was communicating with later apologised and put it down to an oestrogen imbalance
Didn't realize that the GHz Edition was such a vast improvement over base 7970. I stand corrected.
There's quite a bit of confusion around the "Never Settle Bundle" being included or not being included with the 200 series cards. Other review sites around have explicitly put in their reviews that the Never Settle Bundle is NOT included with the 200 series cards.
Looking at the MSI box art, there's no mention about any game bundle. So what's the truth here?
I was wondering if other reviewers have had the card before wizard. As we know they like to take off the cooler and refitting it properly can be a problem if you don't have the thermal pad thingys they stick to the VRM.
Just doesn't seem normal in this day and age to have a VRM over 110 degrees. Even the CPU temp seems high, MSI recent coolers keep the temps in the 60s usually.
Something doesn't sound right. I cant see how they would go backwards with cooling performance when its the same chip as last gen but more optimised?
I think it is more about the circuitry. I own a GTX 780 with this cooler and everything runs flawlessly and cool under any load.
Nah.. doubt if they are struggling. They pretty much already have a solid foothold in the modern market since R700.
Bit-tech stated: "As for Never Settle, details are still sparse other than that it's set to continue one way or another."
I'm kind of curious as well, Never Settle is definitely a game changer (no pun intended). For me it means the difference between upgrading or not upgrading. Though the games I want in there are all November releases, so I guess we got time...
I work at a store, we just have codes from AMD in the computer to give to customers when they purchase a certain card or another, nothing is mentioned on the box.
Never Settle Forever still only mentions HD7000 series cards: http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/never-settle/Pages/nsreloadedforever.aspx
Perhaps we will get the next 'version' of Never Settle announced soon.
wow amd claiming it's so much faster ridicules more points in firestrike, and again it sucks again also with cpu's , wow amd step up your gaming if you want to keep up with the big boys
This should explain some more
And how comes the GPU-Z screen shot here: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_280X_Gaming/29.html shows release date as being December 22, 2011??? they forgot to change that even though we all know its based on the 7970GHz
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