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I am curious what the hot spot temps are, the review makes no mention of them and they are more important metric than the gpu edge temps. My Gigabyte Gaming OC 5700 XT can have 70C edge temps, but the hot spot can be at over 100C.

I agree; this is why I always wait for Guru3D reviews as well, they use their FLIR benchmarks to check where there are thermal weak spots in the cooling solutions used by the different manufacturers. So far only the new generation of Gigabyte triple-fan solutions, and the ASUS triple fan cards seem to have good FLIR performance. All round their cards are well cooled and quiet, meaning a longer life span.
 
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My Silverstone GD-07 has only ~135mm of height clearance for cards over 21cm long. However good this card may be, the 140mm height disqualifies it, unfortunately. The Sapphire Pulse is rated at 135mm spot-on, but that's a little too close for comfort. The only non-reference model which 100% for-sure fits in my case is the triple-fan Gigabyte Gaming OC. I have one on order, due in next week.

Not sure when it became so difficult to find cards which aren't significantly over-height, but this round was indeed frustrating.
 
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My Silverstone GD-07 has only ~135mm of height clearance for cards over 21cm long. However good this card may be, the 140mm height disqualifies it, unfortunately. The Sapphire Pulse is rated at 135mm spot-on, but that's a little too close for comfort. The only non-reference model which 100% for-sure fits in my case is the triple-fan Gigabyte Gaming OC. I have one on order, due in next week.

Not sure when it became so difficult to find cards which aren't significantly over-height, but this round was indeed frustrating.
Just make sure you can plug the power in tho. If the GigaByte card extends under the HDD cage (I assume it does) you might not be able to fit the power cables due too low clearance.
 
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Just one question, why they even bother made evoke in the first place? Knowing 5700 xt buyer is absolutely not a budget gamer (if evoke is budget model at all).
Evoke has its own buyers, it has no rgb. Smaller length and width for small cases. And the design theme goes with their x570 meg ace motherboard. It is pretty badly made though with thermals and all but MSI did take notice and said will work to correct the problem
 
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Maybe I didn't clarify it before, I'm not just knocking on this card for having a triple slot cooler. I'm just questioning why all the 3rd party card that feature triple slot cooler didn't get that particular detail listed as a con and in my last post, I specify that I'm actually criticizing the 5700XT GPU for being very hot.
I don't know what to say to you; I guess W1zzard doesn't consider a triple-slot cooler as a con? I can't comment on his behalf but if I would assume that the enormous excess of empty space in modern ATX PCs means that large cards don't get penalised for using more of it.

By that standard, this MSI card with it's unnecessarily high factory overclock is just a fail in my opinion because the performance improvements are so minuscule (3-4%), yet it increases the power consumption in gaming (average and peak) by 23%. If MSI had kept the reference clock, and work on a dual-slot cooler, I'm sure the temperature while higher than this version, would still be much better the reference blower style cooler of the reference 5700XT.
MSI do make smaller, reference-clocked dual-slot cards. Two of them in fact!
I agree with you that overclocked, overvolted cards aren't desirable, but not everyone has the same opinion. This card is aimed at those people who prioritise the clockspeed above all else. It certainly isn't aimed at us, so there's no point in criticising it for not meeting our preferences when MSI already sells two other cards that do.
 

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I guess W1zzard doesn't consider a triple-slot cooler as a con? I can't comment on his behalf but if I would assume that the enormous excess of empty space in modern ATX PCs means that large cards don't get penalised for using more of it.
That. Back in the day I did mention it, but seems a complete non-issue nowadays
 
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ffs read the damn review... the cooling is done on the back plate... stop the bs..
Maybe the sensor is on the backplate, so you are getting temperature for the backplate, not for the GDDR6 module.
 
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Maybe the sensor is on the backplate, so you are getting temperature for the backplate, not for the GDDR6 module.
So, your argument is that MSi's design is the worst, and Power Cooler's design the is best is based on the two memory chips? Meanwhile, the Red Devil has no backplate cooling integrated into it, and also performs worse with GPU and VRM temps...

 
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So, your argument is that MSi's design is the worst, and Power Cooler's design the is best is based on the two memory chips? Meanwhile, the Red Devil has no backplate cooling integrated into it, and also performs worse with GPU and VRM temps...

You dont need backplate cooling when you have proper cooling front for RAM module.
 

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@W1zzard just out of curiosity, for the performance summary, how do you calculate those numbers? Is it an arithmetic mean of all the tests converted to a percentage relative to the hardware you're reviewing?
 

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@W1zzard just out of curiosity, for the performance summary, how do you calculate those numbers? Is it an arithmetic mean of all the tests converted to a percentage relative to the hardware you're reviewing?
geometric mean
 
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MSI do make smaller, reference-clocked dual-slot cards. Two of them in fact!
I agree with you that overclocked, overvolted cards aren't desirable, but not everyone has the same opinion. This card is aimed at those people who prioritise the clockspeed above all else. It certainly isn't aimed at us, so there's no point in criticising it for not meeting our preferences when MSI already sells two other cards that do.
Which would be a fair point but AFAIK, the only 2-slot cooler from MSI is the reference design card, so my critique about most AIB cards occupying more than 2-slot is fair in my opinion.
 
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Which would be a fair point but AFAIK, the only 2-slot cooler from MSI is the reference design card, so my critique about most AIB cards occupying more than 2-slot is fair in my opinion.
Eww, yeah. I just checked MSI's gallery for the Mech and Evoke and they're 2.5 slot designs.

I just wouldn't get hung up on the number of slots a card takes up these days. If a vendor is going to adhere to the ATX expansion card sizing standard, they'll do it on the reference model for use by OEMs or on a specially-targeted mITX edition. The assumption that modern ATX cases are vast, empty airboxes with tempered glass for RGBLED bling is valid in most instances. (I absolutely hate that fact, but it is what it is)

My Silverstone GD-07 has only ~135mm of height clearance for cards over 21cm long. However good this card may be, the 140mm height disqualifies it, unfortunately. The Sapphire Pulse is rated at 135mm spot-on, but that's a little too close for comfort. The only non-reference model which 100% for-sure fits in my case is the triple-fan Gigabyte Gaming OC. I have one on order, due in next week.

Not sure when it became so difficult to find cards which aren't significantly over-height, but this round was indeed frustrating.
GD04 here. Same problem!
At least these overheight coolers have indents for the PCIe power connectors. I struggled to get the lid on my HTPC with a couple of cards because the power connectors faced up (up being relative to the horizontal HTPC layout). It's tight even with Nvidia reference Founders editions.
 

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So I have a question, does it really take up the third slot on the motherboard? I have an m-atx motherboard and my wifi/network adapter is just chilling in the third slot and I kinda need that. If so, what's the easiest and most convenient way of overcoming this? (Without plugging through ethernet). Thank you for the replies fellow gamers.
 
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So I have a question, does it really take up the third slot on the motherboard? I have an m-atx motherboard and my wifi/network adapter is just chilling in the third slot and I kinda need that. If so, what's the easiest and most convenient way of overcoming this? (Without plugging through ethernet). Thank you for the replies fellow gamers.
Yep, looks like the entire third slot is a written off by this card.

You can either buy a dual-slot 5700xt or you can get a usb WiFi dongle.
 
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