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MSI Subsidiary Starlit Partner Sold RTX 30-Series Cards Over MSRP; Company Investigates

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The grass isn't greener on the other sides either.
Good call, but you cannot expect the partners to call their shots against orders. AMD cannot take the blame this time, the market will play itself out. There are no virtuous parties, everything is for profit.
 
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Having worked in inventory for years, with mixed inventories, I can tell you that MSI's explanation is as fake as the "undecided voters" at the "townhall" held by Biden the other day.
 
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Nvidia is an anti-capitalist crony corporation; everything they do keeps reconfirming that:
  • Nvidia knows AMD is competitive again.
  • Nvidia rushed to market to get the "first impression".
  • Nvidia used the low volume deceptively as a way to Trojan-horse higher prices.
  • Nvidia used the low volume deceptively to increase the "desirability" of their products.
  • Nvidia wants to appear to be against what they are intentionally doing: driving up prices.
  • Nvidia knows AMD will attempt to play the "cooler" cards hand as part of their marketing.
  • Nvidia knows their partners can't make reasonable margins and wants to eventually sell everything first-party further consolidating the market for them to monopolize.
When you buy Windows 10 in example if you buy it from Microsoft they don't have to split the profit with anyone else. If you buy it from someone else, yes Microsoft makes a profit though not as much. This is not to say AMD hasn't made it's share of mistakes though there is a wild difference between mistakes and corruption.

Huang comes clean and says "Read this and you'll understand how I manipulated the market"
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In other words oh sh**t we got caught and now we wil fix it to save face. They would suffer some consequences for this shit. I don’t believe this crap that it was just allocation error lol.
 
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if everyone would stop buying from them... problem solved. who is willing to pay 3090 prices for a 3080?

if everyone would stop buying from them... problem solved. who is willing to pay 3090 prices for a 3080?
 
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ONLY FOUR SOLD

We are all safe now. :D
 
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Having worked in inventory for years, with mixed inventories, I can tell you that MSI's explanation is as fake as the "undecided voters" at the "townhall" held by Biden the other day.
Exactly, corporate line all the way, totes BS.
MSI were already on my shitlist , they're not getting off it anytime soon.

Did MSI have more than four? Probably not :D
 

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LOL just LOL at the comments here.... NO ONE considering the fact that the cards sold or to be sold were POCKET CHANGE ?
Do you really believe that a Big company like MSI would risk hurting their reputation for that pocket change ?
C'mon people ...wake up...
Its obvious that this was an "inside job" by a few individuals to grab some stock and make a quick buck....
Anyone with half decent internet skills could have found the MSI - Starlit connection so why risk it ?

Exactly, corporate line all the way, totes BS.
MSI were already on my shitlist , they're not getting off it anytime soon.

Did MSI have more than four? Probably not :D
We are talking "intentional " mistake....by someone working in that department...so it IS possible...
 
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That's the secret ingredient in Huang's "The 3080 and 3090 have a demand issue, not a supply issue" - at + 600 $ the supply should meet the demand easier. :-D

Too much money in the market due to handouts of money by governments, governments are printing fiat money in excess, inflation is rising like never before, there are only few good new products people want to buy. The demand is huge because people, especially men are not spending money on anything else because most are inside their houses due to pandemic.
 
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Don't you guys hate those pesky 'errors' that quadruple you profits
:banghead:.
 
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I have no problem with MSI cashing in on the incredibly high demand for these cards. Why not?

All the power to them.
 
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I have been a very loyal MSI brand enthusiast for a long time. However, as they grew bigger and diversified to many other products. They have changed their approach from best value for money to more profit from less quality. This approach and their PR disaster statements in recent events. Persuaded me to stay away from their products for the time being.
 
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not sure what you're all on about... I'm still recovering from Nvidia 30-series MSRP and the inevitable RDNA2 similar asks. Yeah yeah, amazing performance, big gains, the feature sets..... still bloody expensive. And for FFS, 4k 144hz... that'll have you sell your house. Only recently I was looking for a pill to knock myself out for a few years and hopefully return to a £1200 gaming build bracket with 4K 144hz secured. The pharmacy guy just laughed.. what a pleb!

But then again I might pick up a 3090 from one of MSI's partners @ £3000... it's the right thing to do. Don't be so greedy, businesses need charity too... how else is bob gonna get that £5,000,000 house with 10 bedrooms for him, his wife and the cute little dog.
 

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To me MSI have always been a low end company. This just solidifies my beliefs.
 

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That's the secret ingredient in Huang's "The 3080 and 3090 have a demand issue, not a supply issue" - at + 600 $ the supply should meet the demand easier. :-D
Very accurate on my view.
 
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