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MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING (Intel LGA 1150)

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  1. cadaveca

    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    I had several packages get stuck in customs or not arrive this time around. That actually screwed up my schedule pretty good as I had intended to have a different publishing order than what I am working on now. But, oh well. Such is life.


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    After reading and digesting many Haswell reviews it seems 4.6GHz is actually a really high overclock. What's with Haswell poor overclocking? I appreciate its heat density but it looks very much by design than accident. Intel has always hated overclocking and now they have the perfect control.

    Do you have any idea if it uses TIM or solder?
     
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    Excellent review... though you stole my 'featured image'. As soon as my Mpower publishes, slight issue we discussed in PM, that was my 'featured' image was your first one, LOL!
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Huh? :wtf:

    :confused:


    :p

    Yep, 4.6 GHz seems high, but both my retail chips hit that clock and then some, no problem. When clocking up CPU multi, "RING" voltage is important. I suspect some users having issue clocking may not be adjusting that voltage, or that the board fails to scale it adequately for their CPU, or there is something else amiss. With early BIOSes, it can be hard to judge what's going on, but I haven't had a few issues I see other reviewers running into. Maybe I just got lucky in the silicon lottery...

    CPUs use TIM, but thermal transfer on my samples seems fine. Personally, I'd ignore any reviews using "ES" CPUs.
     
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    Ha! Sorry, our forum has a 'featured image' on its front page for articles... I used the same one (the branding by the PCIe area), LOL!
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Check any of my reviews for the past several years, they all have that image. ;) It's like the "Vanity" shot, which is the opposite angle from the little thumb at the top of the review. Been in every review for years.


    So your site 'stole" that from ME!!! :roll:


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    Great review. This mobo is on my first place today because of you.
    Can't wait to see your others reviews so I could choose correctly.

    Any chance for approximate date of sabertooth z87 or gigabyte x-oc review ?
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Soon.

    GRYPHON Z87 next, then Z87X-OC.
     
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    Sweet can't wait for the gryphon I really want a m-atx build. Your reviews rock.
     
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    I don't know about everyone else but for me the move to 22nm has been a massive disappointment for me. I thought we would be seeing pretty much guaranteed +5GHz overclocks at relatively low temperatures, not forgetting the hype over 3D transistors. I put Ivy Bridge down to teething problems and genuinely thought Intel would have sorted the heat density issues or four Haswell. It's not even like they have been increasing the core count either, we have had quad-cores since 2006!

    Anyway, Dave/anyone has Intel confirmed Broadwell compatibility with z87? A year or so ago articles said it was confirmed that z87 would be compatible with Haswell and Broadwell, then it was announced that Haswell was going to be the last ever LGA socket, then we seem to have gone back on that too.any ideas?
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Yes, new CPU should go in same socket, some time in 2014. Will that actually happen? Time will tell.
     
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    Great review cadeveca, looking for to future Z87 review from you.

    Will you or another poster from techpowerup be reviewing one of the Gigabyte Z87 UltraDurable 5H/4H/3H as well at some point?
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Yes, I will. It was one of many that got caught in customs, had to wait for Customs to release the board back to Gigabyte, and then it will get shipping back to me, probably after Computex.
     
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    hmm official MSI says on 64 GB DDR3 support on this motherboard ....
     
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    What is the max CPU voltage setting in the BIOS cadaveca?
     
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    Doesn't really matter, once you get 1.2v+ the temps skyrocket and 1.3v+ need's delid with great cooling.
    Even in the bios Cad was Idleing at 57c with 1.28v

    [​IMG]
     
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    Did you answer my question? No.
     
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    I think I maybe reading the manual wrong(just went through 116 pages) but it mentions 1.67


    EDIT it should be
    CPU voltage tweaking (maximum) 2.1 V
    Memory voltage tweaking (maximum) 2.445 V
    North bridge / PCH voltage tweaking (maximum) 1.68 V
    VCCSA voltage tweaking (maximum) 0.99 V
    QPI / IMC / I/O voltage tweaking (maximum) 2.13 V
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    BIOS isn't "IDLE". considering 1.3 V is nearly a 30% boost in voltage...temps are fine.

    That question is answered in the review.

    IN the table at the top of the BIOS page:

    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/Z87-GD65_GAMING/8.html

    4770K supports 32 GB only...:

    http://ark.intel.com/products/75123/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

    But I'll change it if that is what they say.
     
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    Hm, everyone I've heard is getting horrible temps. But you are right i didn't put 2&2 togeather with the V and temp. I figured in bios the CPU would be idle. Could you post some more info on how your CPU temps are doing plus your cooler?

    I must not be thinking straight tonight its getting late here.
     
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    Dave, I couldn't find a way to change to multiplier inside the BIOS (haven't read the manual yet :p) but what do you think about using MSI's Command Center to play with multipliers and voltages?

    Also, I wanted to ask you, my CPU's default voltage on its first boot in the BIOS was 1.000V, and the ring voltage was 1.024V, you mentioned this tells you a lot about OCing potential, what do you think about this CPU in particular?

    Thank you for your help!
     
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    Why don't you look at the review smh


    http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/MSI/Z87-GD65_GAMING/7.html
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    I get just under 85C in P95 with the Coolermaster TPC812 @ 4.6 GHz, and 1.285V. Idle is ~30c in OS.


    That sounds pretty good, actually. Maybe you can get 4.6 GHz with just 1.2V. Set ring voltage to 1.15V and ring multi to 39, as I mentioned, then CPU voltage to 1.2 V, and see what you get.

    I don't like software for clocking, at all, since there are many times what you get with software is not actually bootable, although perfectly stable. I'll ask Crazyeyesreaper to look more into MSI Control Center, since the board is on it's way to him now.


    CPU Multi(6th "white" option down the list):

    [​IMG]



    Or, at the bottom of the OC page, is CPU Features, and Turbo multis can be set there. You can roughly copy my settings in those screenshots, but I would not use the high vCPU, vRING and vDIMM I have there, as that was before I tweaked them down.
     
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    I read the whole review. But Im starting to get all mixed up. Over read over 10 haswell reviews 13+ MB reviews plus all the haswell OC and delidding threads at ocn . I've got about 7 threads going also. I think I need to step back and go to sleep goodnight all.

    Thanks for the info Cad!
     
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    Review on of the same mb or different ones ?

    Im just going to get mine tomorrow mpower max :)

    But it seems haswell is the same like sb ivy they all don't oc the same and seems some reviews say its hotter then ivy which sucks

    But reading to many isn't helping you it seems go to sleep let your mind rest :p
     
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