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bassmasta

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i noticed that the 5000 black box is doing pretty good because of an unlocked multiplier. i thought that a high multiplier was worse for your OC untill memory started to keep you back. i thought that was the whole point behind 2000 fsb
 

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You don't have 2000 FSB. If I had 2000 FSB, my CPU would be running at 26GHz (I wish!! :laugh:)

Your HT link is 1000, the link with the rest of the system, and it is double-pumped, therefore they come up with the 2000MHz HT link thing. Just like DDR800 isn't 800MHz as many people say. If thier RAM was really 800MHz, it would be DDR1600. DDR800 = 400MHz.
 

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i noticed that the 5000 black box is doing pretty good because of an unlocked multiplier. i thought that a high multiplier was worse for your OC untill memory started to keep you back. i thought that was the whole point behind 2000 fsb
Err the right combo of multiplier, memory dividers, and fsb really gets the oc working as hard as possible. Some mobos actually have a hole where if you hit that fsb, the performance drops because it loosens it's latencies.
 
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o >.> well, while i'm at it, can heat make an oc unstable or just kill hardware?
 

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i think both,but i'm not 100%
 
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well, this has been an educational twenty minutes. i was wondering why i had such horrid instability at 68/59 degrees
 

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^^lol
72C is the melting point for an Athlon :nutkick:
 
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yep. that's why i keep it at a nice, cool 68/ next voltage increment spells death, tho.
 

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I wouldn't consider 68c anywhere near cool. My old P4 PrescHOT only ran 54c on the stock cooler.
 
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well, if it doesn't cause damage, it's cool enough for my needs :) i've brought it up to 71 degrees before, too. i think the melting point is 74
 

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The performance loss you're seeing may actually be heat damage...I feel sorry for that CPU LOL
 

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You don't want athlons running above 65c load for any amount of time. You need to either increase the cooling capacity or lower your overclock...or you WILL have dead hardware.
 
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:) i'm one of those people who gets their limitations in writing and abuses whatever leeway we can get. that's military training. so, core 1 at 58, core 2 at 68. actually, now that i see heat is causing instability, i'll have to rethink that. in case i destroy something, i can get an fx-64 for under $100 from a friend of mine.