• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,919 (4.91/day)
Likes
10,423
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#1
Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden is a hybrid mix between turn-based strategy and a free-roam RPG. While it takes ideas from the basic concoction of strategy games, it sets itself apart from the group with a nice sprinkling of compelling story and some truly bizarre and unique characters.

Show full review
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
1,760 (1.16/day)
Likes
796
Location
USA
System Name $170 family PC, rest was reused old parts.
Processor Ryzen Athlon 200GE @ 3.2Ghz ($55)
Motherboard Biostar A320M Pro ($42)
Memory 8gb (2x4) DDR4 2666 CAS 15-15-15 ($63)
Video Card(s) Vega 3 Integrated
Storage 120GB SSD
Display(s) AOC 22V2H 21.5" Frameless 75hz Freesync
Case Thermaltake View 22
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi 3 + Custom Tube Amp + Sennheiser HD58X
Power Supply Corsair 750w Bronze
Mouse Roccat Kone AIMO
Keyboard Logitech G610+ Cherry MX Red
Software Ubuntu
#2
More games should have an integrated graphics preset, that is a great idea.

the 62 fps cap is a little bit of an odd number, lol
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,919 (4.91/day)
Likes
10,423
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#3
the 62 fps cap is a little bit of an odd number, lol
It's weird how common it is to turn VSync off and find yourself sat at 61 or 62 FPS these days. I dunno what magic some of these games are crafted with that churns out that particular number to get stuck at.
 
Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
4,781 (3.68/day)
Likes
1,972
Processor Intel i5-6600k
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Extreme7+
Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer i11
Memory 2x8GB DDR4 2400 G.Skill
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 128 and 256GB OCZ Vertex4, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 3TB Seagate
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Chieftec BX01
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
#4
The expanding awareness circle could mean when you get close, the enemy simply becomes more alert? Imagine yourself on a patrol and suddenly hearing something of feeling someone around.
Idk how well that works in practice, but that's my feeling about that circle getting bigger when you get close.
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,919 (4.91/day)
Likes
10,423
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#5
The expanding awareness circle could mean when you get close, the enemy simply becomes more alert? Imagine yourself on a patrol and suddenly hearing something of feeling someone around.
Idk how well that works in practice, but that's my feeling about that circle getting bigger when you get close.
It makes that circle somewhat pointless though. As a player you will never ever reach the edge of the initial circle since it changes as soon as you get within a few meters. So why bother making it that small in the first place? Why not make it the larger size by default?
 
Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
4,781 (3.68/day)
Likes
1,972
Processor Intel i5-6600k
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Extreme7+
Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer i11
Memory 2x8GB DDR4 2400 G.Skill
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 128 and 256GB OCZ Vertex4, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 3TB Seagate
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Chieftec BX01
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
#6
It makes that circle somewhat pointless though. As a player you will never ever reach the edge of the initial circle since it changes as soon as you get within a few meters. So why bother making it that small in the first place? Why not make it the larger size by default?
Keep you on your toes?
Who knows, maybe they wanted to give you the ability to get better at stealth so that if you got good enough the circle wouldn't expand anymore? But yeah, if all it does is make things unnecessarily awkward, it should probably be revised. Maybe in a day-o patch, since the game wasn't released when you reviewed it?
 
Joined
May 3, 2010
Messages
715 (0.23/day)
Likes
215
Location
Essex, England
System Name Hellfire
Processor Intel I7 4790K OC to 4.6 @ 1.27V
Motherboard Asus Z97 Sabertooth Mk1
Cooling Corsair H100i in Push/Pull with 4x SP120 fans.
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16Gb
Video Card(s) Sapphire Vega64 Nitro+ x2 Crossfire
Storage Samsung 840 Pro SSD (OS), 2TB Caviar Black SATA III Secondary, 2TB Caviar Black SATA III Tertiary,
Display(s) MSI MPG27QC
Case Corsair 750D
Audio Device(s) onboard 7.1 HD Audio
Power Supply Seasonic PRIME Ultra 1300w PSU
Mouse Logitech G300s
Keyboard Logitech G19s
Software Windows 10 64Bit
#7
Great review, I've had this game on my radar for sometime, so will definitely look into it. The fact it does borrow from Xcom just makes it all the better for me.
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
1,750 (0.35/day)
Likes
1,050
Location
South Africa
System Name Firelance
Processor i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz / 1.23V
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H @ F16h mod BIOS
Cooling Corsair H105 + 4x Gentle Typhoon 1850
Memory 2x 8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 CL9 @ CL7
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1070 Armor OC with Gaming X BIOS @ 2000 core / 2300 mem
Storage 2x 256GB 840 Pro (RAID-0) + 3TB Deskstar 7K3000 + 512GB BX300 + 8TB WD Purple
Display(s) Dell U2713HM (25x14) + Acer P243W (19x12)
Case Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s) Corsair VOID Wireless
Power Supply Seasonic SS-760XP² Platinum
Mouse Logitech G400
Keyboard Logitech G19
Software Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1
#8
What engine is this? UE4?
 
Joined
May 3, 2010
Messages
715 (0.23/day)
Likes
215
Location
Essex, England
System Name Hellfire
Processor Intel I7 4790K OC to 4.6 @ 1.27V
Motherboard Asus Z97 Sabertooth Mk1
Cooling Corsair H100i in Push/Pull with 4x SP120 fans.
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16Gb
Video Card(s) Sapphire Vega64 Nitro+ x2 Crossfire
Storage Samsung 840 Pro SSD (OS), 2TB Caviar Black SATA III Secondary, 2TB Caviar Black SATA III Tertiary,
Display(s) MSI MPG27QC
Case Corsair 750D
Audio Device(s) onboard 7.1 HD Audio
Power Supply Seasonic PRIME Ultra 1300w PSU
Mouse Logitech G300s
Keyboard Logitech G19s
Software Windows 10 64Bit
#9

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,919 (4.91/day)
Likes
10,423
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#10
It is indeed UE4. I used to mention game engines in every review but people didn't really care.
 
Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
4,781 (3.68/day)
Likes
1,972
Processor Intel i5-6600k
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Extreme7+
Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer i11
Memory 2x8GB DDR4 2400 G.Skill
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 128 and 256GB OCZ Vertex4, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 3TB Seagate
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Chieftec BX01
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
#11
It is indeed UE4. I used to mention game engines in every review but people didn't really care.
Fps seems rather low for a UE4 based title. Any idea why?
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,919 (4.91/day)
Likes
10,423
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#12
Fps seems rather low for a UE4 based title. Any idea why?
Didn't seem out of the ordinary to me. There's a 62FPS cap in place so that's preventing a true idea of what max FPS could be. I'd also posit that optimisation is probably not cutting edge right out of the gate.

EDIT: When you have a cap in place it really skews the average and min statistics since the variation is tiny over a certain period.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Dec 16, 2011
Messages
96 (0.04/day)
Likes
27
Location
Glossop, UK
System Name Wolf Command
Processor 6700K
Motherboard EVGA Z170 FTW
Cooling EK Custom GPU block + Corsair H60
Memory 16Gb DDR4 3000 Corsair Vengence
Video Card(s) Sapphire Fury X Custome WC
Storage 1x Samsung M.2 128Gb, 1x Intel 256Gb M.2 1x Seagate 500Gb Hybrid
Display(s) Dell 2417H
Case S340
Audio Device(s) OB
Power Supply EVGA 750W
Software Windows 10
#13
This game looks great, I may wait for it to get a discount first though.
 
Joined
May 3, 2010
Messages
715 (0.23/day)
Likes
215
Location
Essex, England
System Name Hellfire
Processor Intel I7 4790K OC to 4.6 @ 1.27V
Motherboard Asus Z97 Sabertooth Mk1
Cooling Corsair H100i in Push/Pull with 4x SP120 fans.
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16Gb
Video Card(s) Sapphire Vega64 Nitro+ x2 Crossfire
Storage Samsung 840 Pro SSD (OS), 2TB Caviar Black SATA III Secondary, 2TB Caviar Black SATA III Tertiary,
Display(s) MSI MPG27QC
Case Corsair 750D
Audio Device(s) onboard 7.1 HD Audio
Power Supply Seasonic PRIME Ultra 1300w PSU
Mouse Logitech G300s
Keyboard Logitech G19s
Software Windows 10 64Bit
#14
Didn't seem out of the ordinary to me. There's a 62FPS cap in place so that's preventing a true idea of what max FPS could be. I'd also posit that optimisation is probably not cutting edge right out of the gate.

EDIT: When you have a cap in place it really skews the average and min statistics since the variation is tiny over a certain period.
have you peaked into the config files to see if you can remove the cap?
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,919 (4.91/day)
Likes
10,423
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#15
have you peaked into the config files to see if you can remove the cap?
There's a config file in %APPDATA%\ZoneUE4\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor that you can use to change the cap from 62 to whatever you want. My issue is the fact you have to change this at all and why it's not tied to VSync being on or off, or the screen refresh rate in the game's menu.

It's easy enough to rerun the performance analysis, but I like to make a point to developers not to make stupid decisions.
 
Joined
May 3, 2010
Messages
715 (0.23/day)
Likes
215
Location
Essex, England
System Name Hellfire
Processor Intel I7 4790K OC to 4.6 @ 1.27V
Motherboard Asus Z97 Sabertooth Mk1
Cooling Corsair H100i in Push/Pull with 4x SP120 fans.
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16Gb
Video Card(s) Sapphire Vega64 Nitro+ x2 Crossfire
Storage Samsung 840 Pro SSD (OS), 2TB Caviar Black SATA III Secondary, 2TB Caviar Black SATA III Tertiary,
Display(s) MSI MPG27QC
Case Corsair 750D
Audio Device(s) onboard 7.1 HD Audio
Power Supply Seasonic PRIME Ultra 1300w PSU
Mouse Logitech G300s
Keyboard Logitech G19s
Software Windows 10 64Bit
#16
There's a config file in %APPDATA%\ZoneUE4\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor that you can use to change the cap from 62 to whatever you want. My issue is the fact you have to change this at all and why it's not tied to VSync being on or off, or the screen refresh rate in the game's menu.

It's easy enough to rerun the performance analysis, but I like to make a point to developers not to make stupid decisions.
Totally, and I am with you on that thought track, I don't know why Devs decide to cap FPS, my hate is when they tie game speed to the frame rate, it just feels lazy.

I was just curious how it performed if you removed the limit. maybe the RPG/moving element is tied to the frame rate?
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,919 (4.91/day)
Likes
10,423
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#17
Totally, and I am with you on that thought track, I don't know why Devs decide to cap FPS, my hate is when they tie game speed to the frame rate, it just feels lazy.

I was just curious how it performed if you removed the limit. maybe the RPG/moving element is tied to the frame rate?
I'll rerun the benchmark tonight uncapped and add the slide.
 
Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
4,781 (3.68/day)
Likes
1,972
Processor Intel i5-6600k
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Extreme7+
Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer i11
Memory 2x8GB DDR4 2400 G.Skill
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 128 and 256GB OCZ Vertex4, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 3TB Seagate
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Chieftec BX01
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
#18
Didn't seem out of the ordinary to me. There's a 62FPS cap in place so that's preventing a true idea of what max FPS could be. I'd also posit that optimisation is probably not cutting edge right out of the gate.

EDIT: When you have a cap in place it really skews the average and min statistics since the variation is tiny over a certain period.
Oh yes, the fps cap. I read it in the review, but forgot about it.
I was used to UE4 titles having higher frame rates, but a frame cap will kick that in the nuts. Thanks.

Totally, and I am with you on that thought track, I don't know why Devs decide to cap FPS, my hate is when they tie game speed to the frame rate, it just feels lazy.

I was just curious how it performed if you removed the limit. maybe the RPG/moving element is tied to the frame rate?
I limit the fps myself (adaptive vsync) when I can. If the title doesn't need high fps, why crunch frames you won't see? You can save some Watts that way and maybe allow the fan on the GPU to take a break ;)
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,919 (4.91/day)
Likes
10,423
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#19
Oh yes, the fps cap. I read it in the review, but forgot about it.
I was used to UE4 titles having higher frame rates, but a frame cap will kick that in the nuts. Thanks.


I limit the fps myself (adaptive vsync) when I can. If the title doesn't need high fps, why crunch frames you won't see? You can save some Watts that way and maybe allow the fan on the GPU to take a break ;)
Which is why as a developer you either add a "hz" option in your resolution picker (1080p60hz, 1080p75hz, 1080p120hz etc), or you add an FPS cap slider which edits the config file for you. It's very very little work for a UI that already has these things baked in (Source: I can do it it Unity).
 
Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
4,781 (3.68/day)
Likes
1,972
Processor Intel i5-6600k
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Extreme7+
Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer i11
Memory 2x8GB DDR4 2400 G.Skill
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 128 and 256GB OCZ Vertex4, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 3TB Seagate
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Chieftec BX01
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
#20
Which is why as a developer you either add a "hz" option in your resolution picker (1080p60hz, 1080p75hz, 1080p120hz etc), or you add an FPS cap slider which edits the config file for you. It's very very little work for a UI that already has these things baked in (Source: I can do it it Unity).
You still have to test all of these though. If you know your title doesn't need high fps, sticking to 60 and cutting costs is at least understandable.
 
Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
4,781 (3.68/day)
Likes
1,972
Processor Intel i5-6600k
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Extreme7+
Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer i11
Memory 2x8GB DDR4 2400 G.Skill
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 128 and 256GB OCZ Vertex4, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 3TB Seagate
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Chieftec BX01
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
#22
no comparison from low end to high end GPU?
To show what? A 1060 gets 57fps maxxed out in a game locked at 62fps. That already tells you you can play on anything at toned down settings. And that a RTX 2080Ti won't give you anything more at 1080p ;)
 

RCoon

Gaming Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 19, 2012
Messages
11,919 (4.91/day)
Likes
10,423
Location
Gypsyland, UK
System Name HP Omen 17
Processor i7 7700HQ
Memory 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1060
Storage Samsung SM961 256GB + HGST 1TB
Display(s) 1080p IPS G-SYNC 75Hz
Audio Device(s) Bang & Olufsen
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD+
Software Win 10 Pro
#23
no comparison from low end to high end GPU?
I don't have a pile of graphics cards - game reviewer =/= hardware reviewer.
 
Joined
May 3, 2010
Messages
715 (0.23/day)
Likes
215
Location
Essex, England
System Name Hellfire
Processor Intel I7 4790K OC to 4.6 @ 1.27V
Motherboard Asus Z97 Sabertooth Mk1
Cooling Corsair H100i in Push/Pull with 4x SP120 fans.
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16Gb
Video Card(s) Sapphire Vega64 Nitro+ x2 Crossfire
Storage Samsung 840 Pro SSD (OS), 2TB Caviar Black SATA III Secondary, 2TB Caviar Black SATA III Tertiary,
Display(s) MSI MPG27QC
Case Corsair 750D
Audio Device(s) onboard 7.1 HD Audio
Power Supply Seasonic PRIME Ultra 1300w PSU
Mouse Logitech G300s
Keyboard Logitech G19s
Software Windows 10 64Bit
#24
I don't have a pile of graphics cards - game reviewer =/= hardware reviewer.
Well that's not just good enough.... I demand the review contains every graphics card, every ram speed and every CPU.

A combination of all as well. Then at least 20 benchmarks per combination to get the mean per combo,

Should only be a few hundred combos right...

:laugh::p
 
Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
4,781 (3.68/day)
Likes
1,972
Processor Intel i5-6600k
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Extreme7+
Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer i11
Memory 2x8GB DDR4 2400 G.Skill
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 128 and 256GB OCZ Vertex4, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 3TB Seagate
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Chieftec BX01
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
#25
Well that's not just good enough.... I demand the review contains every graphics card, every ram speed and every CPU.

A combination of all as well. Then at least 20 benchmarks per combination to get the mean per combo,

Should only be a few hundred combos right...

:laugh::p
I believe that would be a few hundred video cards, let alone combos.

But you are too easily pleased. I also demand testing with 2, 4, 8, 16 and 32 GB RAM, motherboards having high-end and entry-level chipsets and for games with an online component using 10, 100 and 1,000 Mbit connections. Also dual and triple monitor setups as a bare minimum.
 
Top