my audiophile system.

[trickson]

FINALLY I have them!!!
The Klipsch Reference Premiere 6000F and 5000F They are hands down the absolute best speakers I have EVER had.
A Denon AVR8302 a Denon DP297 turntable and a Denon DRM-400 tape deck.
I am still waiting to get a center a sub and the 4 rear speakers but wow for now I am very very HAPPY!
I have some vintage DBX studio book shelf speakers and Sony for the rear and a Sony for the center they are ok but yeah need to be replaced with Klipsch!
Also my main gaming system is hooked up to the Denon as well as the NEW 4K Sony TV. The best system I have EVER had!

Oh and that is a sub that is powered by a klipsch 150 watt amp and a Diesel audio 800 watt that really slams!

 

[oobymach]

I wouldn't put the sub so close to the pc, especially if you have an hdd in it. Big magnets in subwoofers and the noise they produce might fuck with your system, otherwise looks good.

 

[trickson]

I wouldn't put the sub so close to the pc, especially if you have an hdd in it. Big magnets in subwoofers and the noise they produce might fuck with your system, otherwise looks good.

LOL not on your life the sub is powerful and all but there is NO way that it can even begin to mess with my computer or even a cassette tape, Why I know this? I have set cassette tapes on top of that thing for years now! LOL it is totally safe magnetic shelled boom box.

What I really need to do is setup my system right. The space I have to work with really has my all messed up. It's my sectional couch really, It is screwing my entire room up and I can't just fix it I need a plan!!!

 

[sam_86314]

LOL not on your life the sub is powerful and all but there is NO way that it can even begin to mess with my computer or even a cassette tape, Why I know this? I have set cassette tapes on top of that thing for years now! LOL it is totally safe magnetic shelled boom box.

He was probably suggesting that the vibration from the sub could negatively affect any mechanical drives in the system.

I still keep my (much smaller) subwoofer a few feet away from my system just to be safe.

 

[trickson]

He was probably suggesting that the vibration from the sub could negatively affect any mechanical drives in the system.

I still keep my (much smaller) subwoofer a few feet away from my system just to be safe.

I will test it for you. I will see just how much shaking AN AMD system can take.
If anything does happen oh well I will fix it. as far as sound there is only the rattling of the pictures on the wall and my glass ware in my hutches that I hear. I have yet to have any ill effects from the position of the sub to the computer (YET) , If I shake it apart you will be the first to know and see.
Deal?

 

[freeagent]

Nice man, that should liven things up a bit. I didn't consider the spinners before, that's a good point lol. I haven't had a problem with vibrations and my computer either. I don't let er rip like I used to because the kids complain too much, but before they were born I enjoyed high current thoroughly. As long as you don't have any loose screws you should be ok Not sure if extra rubber would help, as the case will pick it up from the air. My Define R4 was good for that because of the sound deadener inside. But even with other cases I didn't have problems.

Edit:

I didn't have it directly beside it though..

 

[Easy Rhino]

Those are nice speakers but ... puts on snob hat... they are not audiophile. Great for movies though.

 

[lexluthermiester]

FINALLY I have them!!!
The Klipsch Reference Premiere 6000F and 5000F They are hands down the absolute best speakers I have EVER had.

Nice! That whole setup is quality! Very cool indeed!

puts on snob hat

Laughing because of this, not at you.

 

[trickson]

Those are nice speakers but ... puts on snob hat... they are not audiophile. Great for movies though.

Exactly what a snob would say. LMAO!
I mean it's not an audiophile setup unless you have $70,000 Dollar wires and $10,000 Dollar speakers (Each). so yeah...(slaps snob hat off)...
I did some more rearranging as best I can. I got each speaker 5 and 1/2 inches apart, so far it sounds like really AMAZING! Even better now. more separation

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Oh and yes tested out the system at 3/4 power. Never been able to get my system to -10 with the other speakers they would clip and stutter and the sound would just get all distorted. NOT NOW!!! playing Afroman colt 45! Bumped so hard I thought my ears were going to start to bleed!
And the computer did not even vibrate not a tingle because all the sound waves face forward.

 

[EarthDog]

Solid setup!

Center that TV though... it's bothering me, lol.

Also, you drive those four speakers up front together? As what channels or A/B and dual L/R? You can use the 5000f as rear L/R channels if you want. Then all you need is a sub and center.

...or are these two different systems?

Anyway, cool on the speakers!

 

[heky]

Wanted to suggest exactly the same as @EarthDog did, run the 5000f as rear L/R channels.

Congrats on the speakers, am an audio junkie myself, running the DALI Zensor Speakers and Denon Amp. Best i can afford atm and am really super pleased with the sound they produce...

 

[Vayra86]

Audiophile or not, cool speakers; but acoustics with your setup now can't be good. There is a LOT more to gain from centering your speakers in the room and above all, get them the hell away from that left hand side wall. Soundwaves bounce all over the place there, killing your stereo image.

If you want to improve this, in a simple way;

- Place sub in the corner left wall there, set it at fixed volume on a monotonous test sound or song and move to your ideal listening position. If you get more audible bass at the same volume, its an improvement; you want to turn the volume knob down as far as possible while still having good reproduction; and that is all about setting the position right. Bass waves are omnidirectional so it won't hurt your stereo or surround image to move it. When in doubt between several positions; if the sub has a Phase knob, try playing with that and every time moving back to your listening position to see if you get better reproduction. Moving the sub to the corner and you can move the left front speaker more toward the middle and away from that wall.

- Front speakers next to one another are going to kill clarity. Have you considered a quadrophonic setup?

 

[Metroid]

Great setup, need a lot of space for that, those speakers are huge hehe, I'm still happy with top end headphones but my hearing will determine if I will need something like you have hehe in the future.

 

[P4-630]

Hope your neighbors live far away......

 

[INSTG8R]

Audiophile or not, cool speakers; but acoustics with your setup now can't be good. There is a LOT more to gain from centering your speakers in the room and above all, get them the hell away from that left hand side wall. Soundwaves bounce all over the place there, killing your stereo image.

If you want to improve this, in a simple way;

- Place sub in the corner left wall there, set it at fixed volume on a monotonous test sound or song and move to your ideal listening position. If you get more audible bass at the same volume, its an improvement; you want to turn the volume knob down as far as possible while still having good reproduction; and that is all about setting the position right. Bass waves are omnidirectional so it won't hurt your stereo or surround image to move it. When in doubt between several positions; if the sub has a Phase knob, try playing with that and every time moving back to your listening position to see if you get better reproduction. Moving the sub to the corner and you can move the left front speaker more toward the middle and away from that wall.

- Front speakers next to one another are going to kill clarity. Have you considered a quadrophonic setup?

This guy gets it

 

[Frederik S]

Cool setup you definitely have enough power for the room size it seems

A top tip for anyone looking to improve their understanding of room acoustics have a look at Room Equalization Wizard (REW) and its simulation software.

Generally use the best set of speakers do not double up on the L or R it is a comb filtering nightmare, plus phase issues with different cross overs and drivers in the speakers. Try and get it a bit away from the side wall to avoid excessive filtering effects from early reflections. The room gain per speaker here is also very different as two sit in the corner and one set is against a back wall.

There is a lot to gain by tweaking the room or adding a DSP for room correction. I usually use a MiniDSP and have a UMIK-1 which is good enough for my imperfect listening rooms.

 

[XL-R8R]

I'm still trying to get over this image:

Playing music from YouTube - even on a decent hand-held device, let alone nice Klipsch speakers - is very painful to any discerning audiophile!



However! This is still a pleasing setup to look at and will sound fantastic, I expect..... even if the TV is hung in a wonky fashion.

 

[phill]

I take it you have a 2.1 speaker setup as I don't see a center speaker?

By the center box I'm guessing that is a cinema/AV amp?

Just re-read your first post, why would you want 4 front and rear speakers? Am I missing something there?

I love my Linn/Celeston setup but I'd love to give it a bit of an upgrade... I'd love to get some floorstanders as well, my book shelf speakers are great but I'd like something a little bigger, obviously for a bigger room

 

[freeagent]

I love my Linn/Celeston setup but I'd love to give it a bit of an upgrade...

Nice.

 

[trickson]

yes the speaker setup is less than ideal I have managed to get them 15" from the wall and 6" apart the sound is WAY WAY 10000% better now. The T.V. is Centered on me lol,
Yes the speakers are setup with the RP6000F on main front channel "A" and the RP5000F are on Chanel "B". Like I said with my living room ( It's NOT a theater) the huge sectional couch is a huge obstacle that just can not be changed. So It is what it is.
All I can do is small incremental adjustments.

I take it you have a 2.1 speaker setup as I don't see a center speaker?

By the center box I'm guessing that is a cinema/AV amp?

Just re-read your first post, why would you want 4 front and rear speakers? Am I missing something there?

I love my Linn/Celeston setup but I'd love to give it a bit of an upgrade... I'd love to get some floorstanders as well, my book shelf speakers are great but I'd like something a little bigger, obviously for a bigger room

yes the center speaker is hard to find it is above the Denon stereo, Look see that purple cover? Yep that is the center speaker.
As far as the speaker setup goes I am limited (Much like 90% of the normal population) as what I can do with speaker placement or even furniture placement. short of a total living room remodel , see the fire place (fake azz thing) is really the major issue and one that I am hoping next year to get rid of!
Once I get the house refinanced I am remolding my living room making it a theater!
Till then I am stuck with things the way they are and have to work around it (if possible)
I have brought the speakers almost 2 full feet from the wall and separated them to 6 1/2" apart and the sound is absolutely incredible. just moving them from the wall!
I'm thinking of trying out some "insulation" just a small square placed on the wall behind the speakers where the Port is located. See if that softens the blow sorta speak.
But so far the little bit I have doen has made a HUGE impact in the quality of the sound.

 

[EarthDog]

I have brought the speakers almost 2 full feet from the wall and separated them to 6 1/2" apart and the sound is absolutely incredible. just moving them from the wall!
I'm thinking of trying out some "insulation" just a small square placed on the wall behind the speakers where the Port is located. See if that softens the blow sorta speak.
But so far the little bit I have doen has made a HUGE impact in the quality of the sound.

If that helps, imagine what it would be like when it is actually set up properly.

Honestly, I'd just put the 5000fs away if you dont have room to put them as rear speakers. I cant imagine what that sounds like setup like that firing all kinds of sound out..

It will, technically, sound a lot better (how professionals would set it up) with just the two speakers up there with proper spacing from each of the walls. But all four up there bends the needle towards college dorm as opposed to audiophile.

 

[phill]

yes the speaker setup is less than ideal I have managed to get them 15" from the wall and 6" apart the sound is WAY WAY 10000% better now. The T.V. is Centered on me lol,
Yes the speakers are setup with the RP6000F on main front channel "A" and the RP5000F are on Chanel "B". Like I said with my living room ( It's NOT a theater) the huge sectional couch is a huge obstacle that just can not be changed. So It is what it is.
All I can do is small incremental adjustments.

yes the center speaker is hard to find it is above the Denon stereo, Look see that purple cover? Yep that is the center speaker.
As far as the speaker setup goes I am limited (Much like 90% of the normal population) as what I can do with speaker placement or even furniture placement. short of a total living room remodel , see the fire place (fake azz thing) is really the major issue and one that I am hoping next year to get rid of!
Once I get the house refinanced I am remolding my living room making it a theater!
Till then I am stuck with things the way they are and have to work around it (if possible)
I have brought the speakers almost 2 full feet from the wall and separated them to 6 1/2" apart and the sound is absolutely incredible. just moving them from the wall!
I'm thinking of trying out some "insulation" just a small square placed on the wall behind the speakers where the Port is located. See if that softens the blow sorta speak.
But so far the little bit I have doen has made a HUGE impact in the quality of the sound.

When I bought the house I was looking at it thinking how could I set this up to make it like a cinema and the easiest option was to TV in front the window, sofa back and then speakers in the places they need to be, a typical 5.1 system really

My living room isn't massive, about 5m x 3.5m to 4m wide I think roughly? I'd love to have something near double that size if I could and when I move the room sizes will definitely have to be bigger than what I have now otherwise, whats the point.. You can't really move my setup around much so its a little limiting but otherwise, it's lovely.

You'll find as soon as you move big speakers especially away from the wall and place them correctly, the boominess of the bass will go, it'll become tighter and a lot more punchy. I found having too big a speakers for the room makes things worse, so making sure you have the right space for the sized speaker you have really plays a part in it.

I hope one day I can go spending and buy myself another nice setup like I did when I bought my Linn gear. I think a new house for us, will definitely need it

 

[Vayra86]

yes the speaker setup is less than ideal I have managed to get them 15" from the wall and 6" apart the sound is WAY WAY 10000% better now. The T.V. is Centered on me lol,
Yes the speakers are setup with the RP6000F on main front channel "A" and the RP5000F are on Chanel "B". Like I said with my living room ( It's NOT a theater) the huge sectional couch is a huge obstacle that just can not be changed. So It is what it is.
All I can do is small incremental adjustments.


yes the center speaker is hard to find it is above the Denon stereo, Look see that purple cover? Yep that is the center speaker.
As far as the speaker setup goes I am limited (Much like 90% of the normal population) as what I can do with speaker placement or even furniture placement. short of a total living room remodel , see the fire place (fake azz thing) is really the major issue and one that I am hoping next year to get rid of!
Once I get the house refinanced I am remolding my living room making it a theater!
Till then I am stuck with things the way they are and have to work around it (if possible)
I have brought the speakers almost 2 full feet from the wall and separated them to 6 1/2" apart and the sound is absolutely incredible. just moving them from the wall!
I'm thinking of trying out some "insulation" just a small square placed on the wall behind the speakers where the Port is located. See if that softens the blow sorta speak.
But so far the little bit I have doen has made a HUGE impact in the quality of the sound.

Cool. Keep tweaking when you get new ideas. About the channel A/B; if you want to go quadrophonic with that you can; just position speakers correctly, so front left aligning with channel B's front right and vice versa. That way any positional and panning audio will be correct in the stereo image.

 

[trickson]

Thanks for all the great suggestions. It is getting better for sure. My living room is huge really it's this stupid fire place and sectional couch .
I must say this that I mainly only uses the 7.1 stereo setting on my AVR-8302, So the "A-B" channel issue is really NOT an issue.
I actually have a total of 10 speakers hooked up to my 7.1 surround sound system so I really have a shizt ton of sound filling my room.
The question is how well it sounds, I can only tell you this.

FANTASTIC!

Can it be better ? Sure there is always room for improvement and tuning.
Now that said YES this is an AUDIOPHILE SYSTEM!

You know it doesn't HAVE to cost 10000000000000000000000 Bucks to be an AUDIOPHILE SETUP!

You know what really pisses me off? It's all these "Special" names people give and then say NOPE your setup is just a college dorm room setup! WTF?
Unless you have every thing just right and have SPENT the right amount of cash you can not consider your system or YOURSELF Audiophile?
OKAY so let me get this right, Unless I have the best speakers ones that cost $25,000.00 or more have a Marantz Tube amp and $70,000.00 dollar wiring and setup each speaker absolutely perfect to the square MM I am NOT an audiophile? I'm just a college kid setting up a dorm room system?
This is why so many people are turned off from all the SNAKE OIL you AUDIOPHILES try to sell US and why so many do not have nice systems.
The audiophile world is so screwed up and filled with so much snake oil and BS it's just a huge turn off.
I do consider myself a HUGE audiophile and a huge music lover.

 

[EarthDog]

Being an audiophile doesn't mean you need to spend a ton of money on your setup. However, part of being an audiophile is learning and knowing how to get the best sound out of your system... whatever parts you may have. All we are saying is all 4 speakers across the front like that isnt remotely optimal for proper sound and sound staging.