My First AMD Build

[tami626]

Hello, dear friends!

So, I thought my old Sandy build deserves a retirement after 8 years of great service. I need (I mean want) a new one, mostly for gaming (1440p, 1080p, new and old games, low or ultra, anything really). Maybe some crunching too.

Here's what I've come up with:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($327.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($413.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($100.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1126.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-13 09:09 EDT-0400

I couldn't find the case on PCPartPicker, a SilentiumPC Armis AR5 is the one I've chosen.

The GPU really hurts my wallett, so I have also been thinking about getting the RX 5500 if it comes out until Christmas and after a few years, upgrade the hell out of it with whatever that comes out by then. In this case, I could stay near the €1K mark for now.

What do you guys think?

 

[HD64G]

I would get the MSI B450 Tomahawk Max motherboard If I was in your place. Great VRMs, BIOS ready for Ryzen 3000, better memory compatibility, not much more expensive. And I would get a 3733MHz RAM kit. Great prices around atm. Agree for the rest of the parts. And if you want to get closer to the $1K mark, get a custom 5700 non-XT or a custom Vega56 if you find one for less than $300.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I'd suggest getting some better RAM.
DDR4 3200 at CAS 18 is going to be quite slow with that CPU.
Hopefully you can stretch your budget by $5 to get these

Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3600MHz Kit w/Gunmetal Grey heatshield at Amazon.com

Buy Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3600MHz Kit w/Gunmetal Grey heatshield: Memory - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

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It's what I'm running at 3800 CAS 16. Most people get them running at 3733 or 3800 1:1.

 

[tami626]

Thanks guys!

So, RAM sounds like an easy improvement. Can there be any difficulties achieving those 3600+ clocks, or is it simply a setting in the BIOS?

 

[authorized]

If you're looking for savings, replace the 3700x with 3600 instead of downgrading the gpu.
You can get nvme ssd for a similar price, I can see no good reason to go with sata drive you picked.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Thanks guys!

So, RAM sounds like an easy improvement. Can there be any difficulties achieving those 3600+ clocks, or is it simply a setting in the BIOS?

In my case, I have to set it manually in the UEFI, XMP doesn't work properly on my board. That said, it's a piece of cake to set up manually.
Others have had it working with XMP. That said, I run my memory at much tighter timings and higher speeds, yet at only 1.36V.
Ryzen DRAM calculator should help you work out what settings would work with your specific system though.

DRAM Calculator for Ryzen v1.7.3 Download

DRAM Calculator for Ryzen helps with overclocking your memory on the AMD Ryzen platform. It suggests stable memory timing sets optimized for your m

www.techpowerup.com

As pointed out above, might be worth looking at an NVMe drive as well.
Apparently these are quite good for the money, although I'm not personally familiar with the brand. You'd save the extra $5 by going with this.

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-SB-ROCKET-512-Rocket-Internal-Performance/dp/B07KGMBCKD/

Just remember you need a GPT Windows install drive to use an NVMe drive.

Oh and as you're apparently in Europe, you might want to look here for prices.

Geizhals Preisvergleich EU

Preisvergleich für PC-Hardware, Software, Video/Foto, Unterhaltungselektronik, Sport & Freizeit und Haushalt in der EU

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[potato580+]

ive nothing to say, just pay for it and grab the stick!

 

[INSTG8R]

Yeah you edits check out, pull the trigger and enjoy your build!

 

[Lorec]

ive nothing to say, just pay for it and grab the stick!

golly! that was suggestive!
I agree tho, pull the stick and enjoy the trigger!

 

[Jetster]

My first AMD build was the K6-2 350
Looks like a nice build

 

[INSTG8R]

My first AMD build was the K6-2 350
Looks like a nice build

Mine was an Opty 1)70 I still have all the parts and one day plan to rebuild it again for fun.

 

[P4-630]

Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($100.00 @ Amazon)

Get one of the newer Seasonic Focus GX PSU's :

Seasonic Focus GX-650 - Kenmerken - Tweakers

tweakers.net

Seasonic Focus GX-750 - Kenmerken - Tweakers

tweakers.net

These new models don't have in-wire capacitors.

FOCUS GX

The newly upgraded FOCUS PX and FX series are the successor to the FOCUS PLUS Series.

seasonic.com

 

[Zach_01]

If you're looking for savings, replace the 3700x with 3600 instead of downgrading the gpu.
You can get nvme ssd for a similar price, I can see no good reason to go with sata drive you picked.

I also see no reason to buy a M.2 SSD that is not NVMe unless there is not any free SATA port. Unlikely in this new build.
1. Buy a better SATA SSD
or
2. Buy a NVMe close to that price.

And yes a higher GPU is way better than higher CPU. The R5 3600 + RX5700XT is really really nice combo!

 

[tami626]

Alright guys, thanks so much!

I'll try to find a RAM around 3600 MHz with some decent timings.

Can anyone suggest a good NVMe drive from these?

M.2 NVMe SSD s kapacitou 480 – 512 GB | Alza.sk

M.2 NVMe SSD s kapacitou 480 – 512 GB na sklade. ✅ Bezpečný výber aj nákup. ✅ Doručíme do 24 hodín. ✅ Poradíme s výberom. ✅ Pravidelné akcie a zľavy na M.2 N...

www.alza.sk

 

[phanbuey]

My first AMD build was the K6-2 350
Looks like a nice build

WITH 3D NOW!?!

Seriously though, this is a sweet build @OP.

 

[Zach_01]

Can anyone suggest a good NVMe drive from these?

M.2 NVMe SSD s kapacitou 480 – 512 GB | Alza.sk

M.2 NVMe SSD s kapacitou 480 – 512 GB na sklade. ✅ Bezpečný výber aj nákup. ✅ Doručíme do 24 hodín. ✅ Poradíme s výberom. ✅ Pravidelné akcie a zľavy na M.2 N...

www.alza.sk

IMHO the 970 EVO/EVO PLUS series is excellent in every way (except price) among the TLC type NVMe SSDs. If you can afford it go with it no doubt.
I personally buy only Samsung SSDs, but thats me...

That site states that the EVO/EVO PLUS are MLC but they really are TLC with a portion of MLC type cells. All MLC type are the "Pro series" of Samsung.
MLC are higher performance, higher total write count cells but its not noticeable in every day use unless you are transfering hundreds of GBs at a time and every day.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Alright guys, thanks so much!

I'll try to find a RAM around 3600 MHz with some decent timings.

Can anyone suggest a good NVMe drive from these?

M.2 NVMe SSD s kapacitou 480 – 512 GB | Alza.sk

M.2 NVMe SSD s kapacitou 480 – 512 GB na sklade. ✅ Bezpečný výber aj nákup. ✅ Doručíme do 24 hodín. ✅ Poradíme s výberom. ✅ Pravidelné akcie a zľavy na M.2 N...

www.alza.sk

Adata XPG SX8200/Pro if you're considering cost/performance.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

Adata XPG SX8200/Pro if you're considering cost/performance.

i have a 8200 pro and its stellar

 

[rainzor]

MP510 or S11 Pro.
AFAIK S11 Pro and 8200 Pro are identical, but S11 Pro comes with 5 year warranty while that store offers only 3 yrs on 8200pro.

 

[Hyderz]

the crucial p1 1tb ssd is a really good buy in my opinion. $95.99 atm in amazon
its not as quick as the adata, samsung evos or Wd sn750, but its faster than sata ssds.
for 1tb boot drive and under $100 its a pretty good buy.

 

[A Computer Guy]

My thoughts...stick with the stock cooler (it's not too bad really) and consider using the money from that to go with a 1TB or 2TB Intel 660p instead.

Dec 2018 was also my first AMD build in many many years...

This combo below worked out really well for me however I'm not much of a gamer so having a lesser gaming video card allowed my budget to go to other parts.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor ($378.48 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 560 - 1024 4 GB Video Card ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.79 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1158.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-14 00:19 EDT-0400

(See Corsair forums for settings that will work for CMW32GX4M2C3200C16 on ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC because this ram kit needed some tweaking to work with this combo above.)

I don't really have any complaints but if anything I might have done differently...

1) see "tech deals" on youtube
2) the included cooler would have been fine
3) go larger NVMe 1TB like Intel 660p
4) avoid RGB stuff to put $ to better use

 

[potato580+]

My thoughts...stick with the stock cooler (it's not too bad really) and consider using the money from that to go with a 1TB or 2TB Intel 660p instead.

Dec 2018 was also my first AMD build in many many years...

This combo below worked out really well for me however I'm not much of a gamer so having a lesser gaming video card allowed my budget to go to other parts.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor ($378.48 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 560 - 1024 4 GB Video Card ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.79 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1158.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-14 00:19 EDT-0400

(See Corsair forums for settings that will work for CMW32GX4M2C3200C16 on ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC because this ram kit needed some tweaking to work with this combo above.)

I don't really have any complaints but if anything I might have done differently...

1) see "tech deals" on youtube
2) the included cooler would have been fine
3) go larger NVMe 1TB like Intel 660p
4) avoid RGB stuff to put $ to better use

except fo the gpu, i thinks not suit for 1080p now adays, rx480/570/gtx1650 would be better choice to deal with it, avoid rgb couldnt agree more

 

[A Computer Guy]

except fo the gpu, i thinks not suit for 1080p now adays, rx480/570/gtx1650 would be better choice to deal with it, avoid rgb couldnt agree more

Yea rx560 not the best choice for more involved gamers. I'm not so much a gamer these days although Ace Combat 7 does seem to run well enough in 1080p and some of the older games I play it's just fine. If you want dual 4k and minimal gaming rx560's $110 price point was not too bad at the time almost a year ago. I still think GPU's are over priced, however I might be inclined to try a rx5700/rx5500 if it falls close enough to $300.

 

[tami626]

I have found a Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE for €377.50 including 20% taxes, which is around $416, so I might just get it. Where I first checked, it is like €100 more.

// Update:

So, I have managed to keep everything around €1,100 (~€900 without taxes), which is a great price IMO. I have also found the exact same RAM @TheLostSwede recommended and I'll get the ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro SSD that most of you guys mentioned. The rest remains the same.

Thanks again for all your help, I'll make sure to update you when the stuff comes! Might take like two weeks.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Newegg shellshocker rx5700 under $300! What luck!