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My First Computer AKA I have no idea what I'm doing.

NewbieBuilder

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O.K so...I would love to build my own computer but, I don't know where to shop, I don't know the prices, and I need help, my computer seems like a complete rip-off.

Motherboard - Intel® BOXDG965WHMKR Intel® G965 Express
Socket LGA775 ATX Motherboard - $134

CPU -
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4300 - HH80557PG0332M - Tray CPU - Socket LGA775 - $120

Power Supply - Antec SmartPower 2.0 500W Power Supply - $70

Graphics Card -
Umm, looking.

Sound Card -
Scrapped

Case - Thermaltake Mambo Mid Tower Case - $40


Memory - MAXTOR 200GB SERIAL ATA/150 HARD DRIVE - 6L200M0 - $70

Ram - DDR2 1GB Dual Channel (2x512MB) PC2-6400 800MHz (4-4-4-12) Low Latency Non-ECC Unbuffered. 240-Pin with aluminum heat shields - $70

PCI Adapter - Netgear GA311 Gigabit PCI Adapter - $30

Operating System - Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition - $90


Yea, I probably have too much crap, all feedback, thoughts, advice is greatly appreciated, even if it is how bad I am at this.

I'm using this computer mostly for gaming, but also for school...

I feel like this is an extreme rip off because, Dell sells computers with speakers, keyboard, mouse monitor, and a pretty damn good computer for very cheap.... Help me...:banghead:
 
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Casheti

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That is THE worst graphics card ever for gaming. Who or what told you to get that pos?

And an AGP card wouldn't even fit in that motherboard anyways lol...

Look for a PCI-Express graphics card. I recommend either my X850XT or a 6800GS if you're planning some light gaming. They're not too expensive and they most certainly do the job.
 

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Ehehe...I guess I won't listen to my friends anymore

I am going to do like, partially hard-core gaming, I need some partially high specs
 

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Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
www.newegg.com If you're in the USA :)

Tell ya what: Hows about you tell us how much you're willing to spend, and Casheti n me will configure you something accordingly. You sound like someone who'd love to get into computers, but might accidentally buy the wrong thing and get upset when things don't fit...no offense. Best to let the pros tell you what to do here mate :p.

And I have a guide that'll tell you step-by-step how to build :D.
 

Casheti

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Lol... they tell you to get a shit card, and on top of that it won't even fit!

Your friends are pretty dumb.. :rolleyes:
 

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Oh...wow newegg has some pretty cheap stuff, but then, I'm 14 and my parents won't let me buy stuff off the internet X_x..

O.K my budget is, 800-1000 dollars.
 

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Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
Well, then, ask your parents to do it ;).

Want Casheti and I to configure you something that you can actually game on?

Because otherwise, you're seriously better off getting a $600 laptop.
 

NewbieBuilder

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Yeah, you know what, might as well. If you guys could do that for me that would be great.
 

Casheti

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Also scrap that 18X Samsung DVD drive. You won't need that for school or gaming.. to be honest it's overkill.

The Creative soundcard: Ehhhhhhhhhhh... there's not really any need for that. Creative tend to have buggy drivers and then there's the whole debate about who "truely" supports DTS, EAX whatever... Onboard sound should do you just fine unless you're a sound fanatic or care about an extra 1fps.
 

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Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
Gimme fifteen minutes, I assume you have $800 to work with and a focus on gaming?
 

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Yep, 800 to 1000 bucks to spend trying to keep it near 800-900 though. Don't want to over kill my parents pockets.
 

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Looking at your list and your info, i wouldnt recommend you building your own machine. Get a nice ready made, and just upgrade the memory and videocard...and you will be set.
 

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Well, I mean, I know how to build a machine, I just have no idea what to get...
 

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Answer me this...

When you're installing the motherboard, what must you always do before placing it onto the tray?

(This is a noob test :p)
 

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Well first off you gotta change that IO Shield thing, and place the spacers in the box according to where I want to put the motherboard..
 

Casheti

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Damn... I was hoping you forgot about spacers :( Ahh well, I'll get my evil mean kicks some other way...
 

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Processor AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 (Trinidad)
Motherboard ASUS F3Ka (ATI RS690M)
Cooling stock
Memory Nanya 2x1GB ddr2 667@5-5-5-15-2T
Video Card(s) ATI Mobility Radeon HD2600 512MB DDR2@ 580mhz/486mhz
Storage 160GB on laptop+250GB external
Display(s) ASUS 15.4
Case Asus Laptop F3Ka chassis
Audio Device(s) on-board
Power Supply 1:30minutes battery
Software "genui xp", 'cause i hated vista
guess everything is going to sorted out by you 2, if you need help choosing just tell :)
 

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Motherboard Asus P6T SE
Cooling XIGMATEK HDT-S963
Memory OCZ 3 X 1GB Triple Channel
Video Card(s) HIS Radeon HD4670 IceQ
Storage Seagate 250GB 7200RPM SATA
Display(s) Acer AL1916W 19" Widescreen LCD
Case CM Storm Scout
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair 520 Watt
Software Windows XP Pro
O.K so...I would love to build my own computer but, I don't know where to shop, I don't know the prices, and I need help, my computer seems like a complete rip-off.

Motherboard - Intel® BOXDG965WHMKR Intel® G965 Express
Socket LGA775 ATX Motherboard - $134

CPU -
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4300 - HH80557PG0332M - Tray CPU - Socket LGA775 - $120

Power Supply - Antec SmartPower 2.0 500W Power Supply - $70

Graphics Card -
Umm, looking.

Sound Card -
Scrapped

Case - Thermaltake Mambo Mid Tower Case - $40


Memory - MAXTOR 200GB SERIAL ATA/150 HARD DRIVE - 6L200M0 - $70

Ram - DDR2 1GB Dual Channel (2x512MB) PC2-6400 800MHz (4-4-4-12) Low Latency Non-ECC Unbuffered. 240-Pin with aluminum heat shields - $70

PCI Adapter - Netgear GA311 Gigabit PCI Adapter - $30

Operating System - Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition - $90


Yea, I probably have too much crap, all feedback, thoughts, advice is greatly appreciated, even if it is how bad I am at this.

I'm using this computer mostly for gaming, but also for school...

I feel like this is an extreme rip off because, Dell sells computers with speakers, keyboard, mouse monitor, and a pretty damn good computer for very cheap.... Help me...:banghead:


LOl!!!!!! dell desktops are shit!


chris
 

NewbieBuilder

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Really? Wow, I must not know a lot of things...soo why are they shit?
 

Casheti

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Nahh I think they're pretty okay for the price. I have one upstairs and it was cool. Of course all OEM PC's are a rip off because they're pre manufactured therefore the money they add on for profit is stupid and they also often cut corners with odd cases and custom cooling designs.
 

zekrahminator

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Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane @ 2.8GHz (224x12.5, 1.425V)
Motherboard Gigabyte sumthin-or-another, it's got an nForce 430
Cooling Dual 120mm case fans front/rear, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Zalman VF-900 on GPU
Memory 2GB G.Skill DDR2 800
Video Card(s) Sapphire X850XT @ 580/600
Storage WD 160 GB SATA hard drive.
Display(s) Hanns G 19" widescreen, 5ms response time, 1440x900
Case Thermaltake Soprano (black with side window).
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Live! 24 bit (paired with X-530 speakers).
Power Supply ThermalTake 430W TR2
Software XP Home SP2, can't wait for Vista SP1.
20X Lite-On DVD burner: $34

Rosewill case with free shipping, tool-less drive clamps, and a 120mm exhaust fan: $50

Western Digital 80GB hard drive with quietness, reliability, and plenty of space (you don't need 250GB unless you're a video editor or a pirate: $45

Hanns G 19" Widescreen with 5ms response time: $170

Gigabyte AM2 motherboard with extreme reliability, sweet layout, and good looks: $85 (we can downgrade to a cheaper Asus if you'd like, but Gigabyte is known for boot-on-first-try reliability

HIS X1650Pro video card: $110 ($140 will get you a much better X1950GT, an upgrade you may want to consider)

FSP 400W Power Supply with 29A on the combined 12V+ rails: $50 (If you upgrade the video card, we may want to look at a slightly better power supply).

Microsoft keyboard and mouse: $17

2GB of G.Skill DDR2 800 RAM: $85 (RAM prices have gone down the toilet, sweet :D)

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU: $56 (If you want, we can upgrade, but you prolly won't notice the difference)

Windows Vista Home Premium: $110 (Vista kicks ass)

Subtotal: $812

Shipping: $19 via UPS 3-day

Total: $830

That will do :). I personally own the G.Skill RAM and the Gigabyte motherboard, and can tell you that both are reliable and kick ass. I want Vista Home Premium, I was the proud owner of a single core Athlon 64 CPU until I decided that I wanted a dual core AM2 thingy, I love my Hannn G monitor, and it's hard to argue with free shipping on Rosewill cases, which are surprisingly well built.
 
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