MY FIRST "GAMING PC"

[Vario]

i am not sure if all his story was "true" , a guy with 700 $ that does so much " la fine bouche" can not be real ... when will he be back with a photo of "his first pc" ? ....

Haha probably is but seriously any of the builds that we posted would be an amazing rig... really sick of these "my first _" threads though, its either a guy who wants all Corsair shit or its someone trolling for a AMD intel flamewar which thankfully this forum is free of and thats why I post here.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Haha probably is but seriously any of the builds that we posted would be an amazing rig... really sick of these "my first _" threads though, its either a guy who wants all Corsair shit or its someone trolling for a AMD intel flamewar which thankfully this forum is free of and thats why I post here.

Screw you! Intel OWNS Linux as an OS. Microsoft builds the best GPU's! Corsair can't even touch them.

 

[Frick]

Screw you! Intel OWNS Linux as an OS. Microsoft builds the best GPU's! Corsair can't even touch them.

And Bill Gates stand above them all, with a crown of Google harddrives woven together with AMD Fusion Reactor Cores on his head, molten germanium pouring from his eye sockets. The light of a thousand burning Sun Javas frame his head like a halo. He has long hair.

 

[TheMailMan78]

And Bill Gates stand above them all, with a crown of Google harddrives woven together with AMD Fusion Reactor Cores on his head, molten germanium pouring from his eye sockets. The light of a thousand burning Sun Javas frame his head like a halo. He has long hair.

And when he saw it, He said It was good. On the 1337th day he rested.

 

[LeonVolcove]

Sorry i am too busy with my office report and don t have time for answer.
Today is Kaveri review right? I will read some before make my decision

 

[LeonVolcove]

Those performance are WoW but the price is quite high for what i expected. Oh well, they bundled with BF4 copy

i will shop for other component first(HDD, Mobo, Ram, PSU, Case, Monitor) then the Kaveri

Thanks again again for many advice. Good Days folk

 

[Dent1]

Those performance are WoW but the price is quite high for what i expected. Oh well, they bundled with BF4 copy

i will shop for other component first(HDD, Mobo, Ram, PSU, Case, Monitor) then the Kaveri

Thanks again again for many advice. Good Days folk

Prices are high because its just got released. Takes a few weeks for the price to settle.

 

[mastrdrver]

If it's so obvious, then post a comparison screenshot w/ benchmark or real-life app results. Single Channel vs. Dual Channel. Do it.

Did you not read the link I posted right before you posted this? If not, then you need to go reread it. Dustin Sklavos (from Anandtech) stated exactly what I've been saying. You're just refusing to accept that you're wrong at this point.

The original links you show indicate that higher memory frequencies will improves APU performance. This is common sense.

The issue is whether dual channel improves APU performance? Why not stop at high clocked single channel module.

This is illogical. You say that increasing bandwidth improves performance, but then say that dual channel is somehow different then a doubling of bandwidth. You've just contradicted yourself.

 

[Dent1]

This is illogical. You say that increasing bandwidth improves performance, but then say that dual channel is somehow different then a doubling of bandwidth. You've just contradicted yourself.

It's not illogical. Because doubling the bandwidth doesn't mean doubling the performance.

 

[Constantine Yevseyev]

Did you not read the link I posted right before you posted this? If not, then you need to go reread it. Dustin Sklavos (from Anandtech) stated exactly what I've been saying. You're just refusing to accept that you're wrong at this point.



This is illogical. You say that increasing bandwidth improves performance, but then say that dual channel is somehow different then a doubling of bandwidth. You've just contradicted yourself.

If you believe in something, like god or glowing pancakes, then I'm OK with that fact, just like 99% of other people on the Earth. But if you start projecting your beliefes on somebody, it's obviously not a good thing. I know how it's hard to realize that you had thrown some cash on a feature that doesn't really exist, but you need to forgive yourself and let it go.
You still haven't provided a proof, though. I think I'm going to end this discussion if there won't be any.

 

[mastrdrver]

Both of you are either crazy or can't read as the Anandtech article clearly states that going from single channel memory to dual channel almost doubled performance. I've got nothing more to prove or say since you refuse to accept the clear words of the Anandtech review of that laptop which originally was using single channel instead of dual.

 

[LeonVolcove]

Guys chill out, i already bought this "Gaming PC" and could be happier.
You can check it in my specs.

A million thanks for you all for advice and critics, i think this thread is finished. Good day and Good morning

 

[Dent1]

Guys chill out, i already bought this "Gaming PC" and could be happier.
You can check it in my specs.
A million thanks for you all for advice and critics, i think this thread is finished. Good day and Good morning

Glad you're enjoying your rig, I've only heard good things about the Kaveri.

In fact, according to results from Toms (here and here), you'd more then likely actually half your gaming performance going to single channel over dual channel

Both of you are either crazy or can't read as the Anandtech article clearly states that going from single channel memory to dual channel almost doubled performance. I've got nothing more to prove or say since you refuse to accept the clear words of the Anandtech review of that laptop which originally was using single channel instead of dual.

What are you talking about? Apparently its you that can't read.

The Tom's Hardware article you link suggests only up to 20% performance increase in gaming, at a 50% price increase. 20% is nowhere near "almost doubled the performance".

Also the article didn't even test single vs dual channel, so we can't even be sure if up to 20% isn't just because of the higher bandwidth of DDR3-2400 rather than dual channel alone.


Quote from The Tom's Hardware Article you linked:

At the end of the day, a 20% performance increase is pretty big. Huge, even. And there were a few games where the faster memory was required simply to break us into our minimally-accepted 40 FPS average. The $20 price difference over lower-end RAM is only 10% of a $200 upgrade package, or 5% of a complete $400 budget-oriented build. That’s how a 50% component price increase that facilitates 20% more gaming performance is able to top our value charts.

 

[LeonVolcove]

So far still happy, but 1 complaint my windows booting is slow as snail(blamed my HDD for that) wish i had a SSD for OS
2 or 3 Month later i will buy SSD for OS booting

 

[Dent1]

So far still happy, but 1 complaint my windows booting is slow as snail(blamed my HDD for that) wish i had a SSD for OS
2 or 3 Month later i will buy SSD for OS booting

An SSD would help with booting, but not the best reason to buy one though. You're better off buying an SSD for installing the OS and applications directly onto it specifically to increase the snappiness of the OS's navigation and loading times within games.

BTW for a gaming rig, your first priority should be a dedicated video card, specially at 1920 x 1080. Keep in mind Kaveri has a few budget cards it can crossfire with which will reduce the overall cost for you.

 

[mastrdrver]

Good to hear.

Glad you're enjoying your rig, I've only heard good things about the Kaveri.
What are you talking about? Apparently its you that can't read.
The Tom's Hardware article you link suggests only up to 20% performance increase in gaming, at a 50% price increase. 20% is nowhere near "almost doubled the performance".
Also the article didn't even test single vs dual channel, so we can't even be sure if up to 20% isn't just because of the higher bandwidth of DDR3-2400 rather than dual channel alone.
Quote from The Tom's Hardware Article you linked:

I was talking about the Anandtech article. Not the Tom's Hardware one hence why I said Anandtech.

 

[LeonVolcove]

Thats why i am stuck in choosing between SSD for OS booting or crossfire my Kaveri with R7-240/250

 

[happita]

If you want a bit more performance in games, then you'd definitely want to get a R7 250 for some hybrid crossfire with that Kaveri.

 

[theFOoL]

If you want a bit more performance in games, then you'd definitely want to get a R7 250 for some hybrid crossfire with that Kaveri.

that and maybe buy faster RAM @2133

 

[Dent1]

Thats why i am stuck in choosing between SSD for OS booting or crossfire my Kaveri with R7-240/250

Easy choice. This is your first gaming PC, the only way to add significant improvement in games is for a dedicated video card.

Good to hear.
I was talking about the Anandtech article. Not the Tom's Hardware one hence why I said Anandtech.

You linked Tom's Hardware too. So you don't even stand behind your OWN Tom's Hardware link.

The Anandtech review doesn't even test RAM. The Author runs no memory related benchmarks, there are no memory related screen shots or memory related charts & graphs. He just makes a general observation which he doesn't even test officially himself. Also we have no clue whether a higher clocked single module would have the same effect as lower clocked dual module, because he never ran any memory tests.

 

[Vario]

Badass rig you built. Checked it out in your specs, it looks like it will serve you well.

Two Superpi 32m runs would work, I could do a test for you at 4.8ghz with both dimms at 2133 then take out a dimm if you want and do same test, that would tell you the performance hit.

i7 3770k @ 4.8Ghz
Single Channel 8GB 2133 11-11-11-33 HyperX (Hynix)

32m score: 7 minutes 18.673s checksum 704DD90

i7 3770k @ 4.8Ghz
Dual Channel 16GB 2133 11-11-11-33 HyperX (Hynix)

32m score: 7 minutes 2.121s checksum FE5A55E7


Barely a noticeable difference in the grand scheme of things.