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w00t, i'm online now.
I'll do some firewall and security programs tests on 2k3, and za too ;)

Excellent, & do let us know your findings on ZA's latest stuff... even if only the freebie model!

:)

* Thanks!

APK
 

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When zonealarm pro's installation starts, that server os are not supported. But still i continued, there was a conflict with svchost.exe, when trying to communicate with the dns server.
Nothing else, adding it to exceptions cleared this out. no other seroius problems, i'll try out some more.
 

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When zonealarm pro's installation starts, that server os are not supported. But still i continued, there was a conflict with svchost.exe, when trying to communicate with the dns server. Nothing else, adding it to exceptions cleared this out. no other seroius problems, i'll try out some more.

Argh!!! I was hoping that would have been amended by now, but, I guess not... oh WELL!

:)

* Anyhow, thank you for performing this test... it is helpful to me in this regard, & thanks all others for pointing out firewalls which are possibly more informative than Ms', as far as outgoing transmissions of data by programs, & services, etc. et al.

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Comp starts faster, picked up a Trojan (which Trend never got) and ZA doesnt bother me when using an app (like a game - counter strike source...it doesnt crash it :)) :D
 

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Running NOD32 and ZA PRO now

Comp starts faster, picked up a Trojan (which Trend never got) and ZA doesnt bother me when using an app (like a game - counter strike source...it doesnt crash it :)) :D

glad you made the right choice ;)
in 2k3 za doesn't seem/feel gd, so i'm trying Kerio Winroute now.
 

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kerio sucks bad *cough* *cough*, gotta try some others...
 

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You know what would be sweet, if someone would write like an install guide.

For Win2k3 that is. Like what you should do once you install it. ot so much for myself, but for others.

I would do it, except I don't have Win2k3 and I like to own my OS, and I don't the moeny for that, especially not if a better version of Vista will be coming out.
 

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kerio sucks bad *cough* *cough*, gotta try some others...

Per your URL link above, which states that ZA 3.7 runs FINE on server-class OS'? Try this model of it:

http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=zalarm

(Good site ( oldversion.com ) to bookmark in case any of you NEED to get ahold of older models of software, which generally isn't the case, that is, until you hit 'snags' like this situation present!)

:)

* Try it out, & see if what that gent stated in the URL you put up is true about it, albeit on Windows Server 2003...

APK

P.S.=> & good luck... if it runs, I will take a peek @ its reported 'bug lists', if any, to determine IF there is a 'work-around' possible for them, because many times there is... apk
 

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ok, here's a short (but detailed) method of doing all this-
1. Install 2k3.
2. On the startup press ctrl+alt+del to start, as it will appear on the screen.
3. Install Video Drivers/audio drivers. It will prompt hardware acceleration is disabled, right-click on desktop, on the settings tab click advanced. Then open troubleshoot tab, and set the slider to max. click ok, now ur gaming is turned on.
4. Download Tuneup utilities 2007, and open Tuneup optimizer, and start scan. and also do the internet/system optimizations on it (option is given there). In somple laguage, it'll do the tweaking for you !
5. Load in some games, audio/video players :D
6. Go to my computer's properties, and in the advanced tab click settings, and the click adjust for best appearance (it's some ppl's preference, but others may want perf.).
7. Add some wallpapers, themes, vstyles, and icons (this one through tuneup styler, it's integrated in the utilities package .

And, hence u have 2k3 in new skin, and the best windows :D
 

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btw, i'm using comodo right now, free and compatible :D
 

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well how do you change the color scheme on XP besides the ones that come with it, cuz you can right ?
 

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well how do you change the color scheme on XP besides the ones that come with it, cuz you can right ?

i use tuneup winstyler to apply my styles, download 'em off sites then apply it via this ;)
 

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i use tuneup winstyler to apply my styles, download 'em off sites then apply it via this ;)

:toast: where do I get them off sites I found tuneup winstyler but this is my 1st time so do I just google for WinXP styles :confused:
 

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BxTreme "blew my mind" today, & here is HOW (on VISTA):

IS VISTA MORE SECURE THAN ANY OTHER WINDOWS NT-BASED OS, by default?

Well... YES, it is... see here, vs. XP by default AND BY FAR:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=277810#post277810

:)

* Nice to see, unpatched even... moreso after no doubt! 4.32 of 10 possible... awesome, & THAT IS UNPATCHED, no less!

APK

P.S.=> BxTreme using VISTA tested UNPATCHED no less, comes right up on my 5/10 score on BELARC ADVISOR (after a fully patched Windows Server 2003 & fully tweaked/tuned by myself for BOTH performance & security as well)... excellent post by him, illustrating it for us all to see... apk
 
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ok first, 2003 supports full xp themes, just enable the theme service, personaly i keep it in classic mode because windows native themes SUCK ASS.

try
http://www.tomax7.com/mcse/Windows 2003 Server as Workstation.doc
and
http://www.msfn.org/win2k3/

for guides on installing 2003 as a workstation, use http://www.kood.org/win-2003-optimize-tool-v145-info/
to do some of the conversion faster then the guides show.

guide to setting up 2003

1.download a copy of 2003.
2.download sp2 current version from ms.
3.download nlite.
4.use nlite to update 2003 to sp2
5.tweak settings on 2003 as you see fit, i prefer to use unattended install.
tweaks that work best for desktop users.

dissable windows firewall(use blackice protection insted)

dissable windows file protection(this speeds up install by a massive ammount, 12-16min full
install for my current disk)

set the usb refresh higher then stock(nlite tweak same screen as dissable file protection)

set the windows audio service to auto, also can dissable/enable any other services you need/dont need.

with nlite you can set your desltop mode to classic and setup mode to classic, setup mode to classic is faster then the newer style.
classic desktop mode gives you mycomputer and such on desktop like windows 2k, classic start menu is ofcorse classic start menu, personaly i prefer this to the xp style start menu that looks so noobish.

other tweaks as you see fit, the most important ones are listed.

my quick guide after nlite install.

install windows, install drivers for audio and video, run dxdiag, enable d3d, rclick desktop>propertiessettings>advanced>troubleshoot>turn the acceleration up(u need to do this after each gfx driver update in my exp)
turn up audio acceleration from control panil.
use win2k3 optimizer
dissable shutdown event tracker and ctrl+ald+del to logon, and any other tweaks you like :)

extract and run the reg file attached, it will let you have stock xp sounds :) (default server soundscheme=no shoulds)

done :D

read the above guides as well for any aditional info needed :D
 

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I think your conclusions are a bit off. Compatibility of 2003 is lower, several games (Doom3 for example) refuse to install (there are workarounds) and several programs require special server editions, mostly security related programs (antivirus, firewall) and partition magic for example.

2003 has the same options for the desktop as XP has, just turn on the themes service.

Stability? I wonder how you tested that? Did you have 2003 crash on you?

The only difference between XP and 2003 is performance and some slight compatibility issues, though the programs are to blame for that, not 2003.
 

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oh and if you want real themes and the ability to have 2003 look JUST LIKE VISTA get windowblindz :)
 

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my aim was to determine the performance of 2k3 in an untweaked environment, in that sense if xp can be tweaked liked that it would also beat a tweaked 2k3.
so, 2k3's low ram consumption and gd compatibility with most common games were the important reason to get it. imo Xp still pwnz :rockout:
 
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my aim was to determine the performance of 2k3 in an untweaked environment, in that sense if xp can be tweaked liked that it would also beat a tweaked 2k3.
so, 2k3's low ram consumption and gd compatibility with most common games were the important reason to get it. imo Xp still pwnz :rockout:

XP is full of junk, you need a hacksaw to get it to work decently. Specially since SP2 it's hell. 2003 has anything XP can offer and more and runs faster with less trouble.
 

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I think your conclusions are a bit off. Compatibility of 2003 is lower, several games (Doom3 for example) refuse to install (there are workarounds) and several programs require special server editions, mostly security related programs (antivirus, firewall) and partition magic for example.

2003 has the same options for the desktop as XP has, just turn on the themes service.

Stability? I wonder how you tested that? Did you have 2003 crash on you?

The only difference between XP and 2003 is performance and some slight compatibility issues, though the programs are to blame for that, not 2003.

yes, i do agree the 'some' specific programs had conflicts w/ it, so to test that. i got the w/ out sp version of it, and found the same thing as xp, but w/ low ram consumption.
Just as i did w/ vista, no 'serious' crashes occured, nfsc exited after i left it at the title screen. the os didn't seem to crash, it was rock stable as vista :)
EDIT: To test stability i tried multi-tasking, running installations of different products, typing in openoffice, unraring, and rar'ing, decoding music, ripping videos, and 8 more tasks that I use w/ every windows to check it out :)
 
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oh and if you want real themes and the ability to have 2003 look JUST LIKE VISTA get windowblindz :)

i 'bought' already a copy of windowblinds, i payed for it, loved it, but it's like covering the whole os shell, stealing it's variety and originality :) so, i always endure visual styles, i have plenty of 'em, now using one that looks sorta like mac osx tiger :)
 

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I think your conclusions are a bit off. Compatibility of 2003 is lower, several games (Doom3 for example) refuse to install (there are workarounds) and several programs require special server editions, mostly security related programs (antivirus, firewall) and partition magic for example.

2003 has the same options for the desktop as XP has, just turn on the themes service.

Stability? I wonder how you tested that? Did you have 2003 crash on you?

The only difference between XP and 2003 is performance and some slight compatibility issues, though the programs are to blame for that, not 2003.

only the "high end" apps have this install issue for secutiry stuff, like nav and mcafee, nod32,f-prot and many other AV apps install in 2003 no problem be it the "home" or "server" versions of said apps.

doom3 has "issues" with xp x64 because its MSI file was to strict about windows version.
Id posted the "fix" (its the first fix i found) and there are 3.
1.edit the msi file on the cd/dvd so it allows 2003/x64.
2.download a pre-edited msi file.
3.just drag and drop the files off the disk onto the hdd and play the game :)
Id at one point admited they should have done a better job on the msi file.

as to backup and partitioning tools, try active@ tools they work fine on my end.

sp2 allows the compatability mode of "run as xp" just tested this on doom3 and it works, so i would guess it would work on other programs as well :)

2003 is more stable, its a server os, xp isnt a server os because its not reliable enough to be one or they would have put out "xp server".

so your right and wrong at the same time, some apps dont want to install but once installed would work, such as nav(i have force installed it) but there are other options that you dont need to buy a server edition of the software to use, such as

blackice protection(firewall and app control)
f-prot (antivirus)
nod32 (antivirus)
active@ utilities
Acronis utilities
paragon partition manager
i have had good luck with Acronis and active@ non server editions working fine on server no force needed paragon, older versions gave me some trouble but i just installed the latest one on my other system and it works great :)

and one of my favorite partition managers
http://www.ranish.com/part/
kicks total arse :D and is free :)

XP is full of junk, you need a hacksaw to get it to work decently. Specially since SP2 it's hell. 2003 has anything XP can offer and more and runs faster with less trouble.
exectly :)
 

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my windowblinds has vista,osx,and about a million other themes, and you can set it to only skin/theme what you want themed :)
 
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