My laptop CPU Turbo reaches frequencies it shouldn't

[SpicyMeat]

I have an old hp laptop with an intel i5-1035G1. It normally takes 10W of power and without turbo it only works at 900MHz. With turbo it normally works up to 1.8GHz. I also reapplied thermal paste a month ago which fixed a lot of throttling issues and now it can work at turbo for much longer at much lower temperatures. But yesterday i had a small amounto of water dropped on my laptop. I quickly unplugged and shut the laptop and i didn't turn it on for hours. It probably isn't the issue but i think it's worth mentioning. Then after a day later i was using my laptop like always, i open Throttlestop and i was shocked with a 3GHz turbo. This laptop only has a one small fan and it really shouldn't be working at 3GHz and i' have never seen it. It was also using 40W instead of 10 W. It went up to 100 degrees after a minute and then throttled all the way down to 200MHz which means i had to wait for it to cool down. Since then i'm working with turbo disabled and as you know 900MHz is not really ideal nowadays. I haven't changed any Throttlestop setting and most of them are locked since this is a laptop. Is there a setting in Throttlestop to lower the frequency or is there any other fix? Please help.

 

[Apocalypsee]

Max turbo frequency is 3.6GHz. If you don't want to tinker with Throttlestop just open up power plan and set Maximum processor state to 99% so it won't go Turbo and run max 1GHz

 

[SpicyMeat]

Max turbo frequency is 3.6GHz. If you don't want to tinker with Throttlestop just open up power plan and set Maximum processor state to 99% so it won't go Turbo and run max 1GHz

But it never used to even come close to 3.6GHz. And i don't want to disable turbo i know how to do that. I just want it to turbo like it used to

 

[unclewebb]

I also reapplied thermal paste

What thermal paste did you use? Many popular thermal pastes will start to fail within a couple of weeks when used on a mobile CPU. I would only recommend using Honeywell PTM 7950 which is designed to last for years, not weeks.

3.60 GHz is the correct maximum speed for a 1035G1. Maybe your computer used to thermal throttle before you replaced the thermal paste. If it never used to run at 3.60 GHz then it was not running at its full Intel rated speed.

Intel® Core™ i5-1035G1 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ i5-1035G1 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

www.intel.com

To adjust the maximum CPU speed, open the ThrottleStop TPL window, check the Speed Shift box and adjust the Speed Shift Max value. This setting allows you to adjust how much turbo boost an Intel CPU uses. It is a lot more flexible than having to choose all or none which is what setting Maximum processor state to 99% does.

Post screenshots of the ThrottleStop FIVR and TPL windows if you need help.

then throttled all the way down to 200MHz

If your CPU gets stuck at this speed, open up the Limit Reasons window and find out the reason for throttling. When Intel thermal throttling is functioning properly, CPUs are not supposed to get stuck at their minimum speed. Is this a Dell laptop? Dell have dreamed up their own throttling schemes which are both excessive and completely unnecessary.

 

[SpicyMeat]

What thermal paste did you use? Many popular thermal pastes will start to fail within a couple of weeks when used on a mobile CPU. I would only recommend using Honeywell PTM 7950 which is designed to last for years, not weeks.

3.60 GHz is the correct maximum speed for a 1035G1. Maybe your computer used to thermal throttle before you replaced the thermal paste. If it never used to run at 3.60 GHz then it was not running at its full Intel rated speed.

Intel® Core™ i5-1035G1 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ i5-1035G1 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

www.intel.com

To adjust the maximum CPU speed, open the ThrottleStop TPL window, check the Speed Shift box and adjust the Speed Shift Max value. This setting allows you to adjust how much turbo boost an Intel CPU uses. It is a lot more flexible than having to choose all or none which is what setting Maximum processor state to 99% does.

Post screenshots of the ThrottleStop FIVR and TPL windows if you need help.


If your CPU gets stuck at this speed, open up the Limit Reasons window and find out the reason for throttling. When Intel thermal throttling is functioning properly, CPUs are not supposed to get stuck at their minimum speed. Is this a Dell laptop? Dell have dreamed up their own throttling schemes which are both excessive and completely unnecessary.

I used ThermalGrizzly CryoNaut and it made the temps considerably lower. I also never saw 3.6GHz, i don't think this laptop has enough cooling. And it is an HP laptop. Will tweaking the max value for speedshift fix this?

 

[unclewebb]

Will tweaking the max value for speed shift fix this?

Try it and find out. You can adjust Speed Shift Max to limit your computer to whatever maximum speed you like.

I also never saw 3.6GHz

3.6 GHz is the max speed when a single core is active. There are always lots of Windows background tasks running so having only one core active may only happen for a few milliseconds at a time. Seeing the max speed can be as elusive as seeing a sasquatch in the wild.

That big MHz number is mostly for marketing purposes. If you can reduce the number of background tasks, you might get a little closer to that theoretical maximum. A lean computer will average very little time in the C0 state when it is idle. The ThrottleStop C0% data is the best way to measure background sludge. My computer averages less than 0.1% in the C0 state when it is idle with only Google Chrome open.

 

[SpicyMeat]

Try it and find out. You can adjust Speed Shift Max to limit your computer to whatever maximum speed you like.


3.6 GHz is the max speed when a single core is active. There are always lots of Windows background tasks running so having only one core active may only happen for a few milliseconds at a time. Seeing the max speed can be as elusive as seeing a sasquatch in the wild.

That big MHz number is mostly for marketing purposes. If you can reduce the number of background tasks, you might get a little closer to that theoretical maximum. A lean computer will average very little time in the C0 state when it is idle. The ThrottleStop C0% data is the best way to measure background sludge. My computer averages less than 0.1% in the C0 state when it is idle with only Google Chrome open.

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yeah it is fixed after i tweaked the tpl thank you man!

 

[Valour549]

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How do you expand the table so it shows many values like that? Mine always only show 8 rows.

 

[SpicyMeat]

How do you expand the table so it shows many values like that? Mine always only show 8 rows.

I think he has a lot of cores.

 

[unclewebb]

How do you expand the table so it shows many values like that?

ThrottleStop has some hidden secrets.

The expanded monitoring table is only available if you have 20 threads (logical processors) or less. You can double mouse click anywhere on the monitoring table to toggle between regular view and expanded view. This feature allows me to see all 10 cores / 20 threads of my 10850K. I like it. It will not work on a 14900K or 14900HX. Maybe someday.