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Hello guys , I have an ASUS-F560UD laptop , I bought it 2 weeks ago and all temps were fine , 40c on idle and 75-~83c while gaming
But yesterday , my temps were really high , 50c on idle and over 90c in gaming .

Any suggestions ? I tried scanning for malware , there's nothing !
 

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Try using some books or cds to lift the back of it off the table a little when you game
 
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Any windows update running in the background during that period?
The laptop probably had its run in period and now at it is "optimum" temps now after few usage perhaps?
Heat dissipation from 2 side vents seems alright, what does the heatsink like though? It is a thin laptop so expect it to get bit toasty once its up and running.
 
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Im using a cooling pad bro , the heat sink is just fine
You could have included that in your first post. More info so redundant info or questions are not asked.
What are the ambient temps in your room? Are you using afterburner and OC'ing the gpu and set a custom fan curve? Or just using the stock fan curve? I probably would not worry until gaming temps start approaching 100* and use a custom fan curve for cooling. Try throttlestop too @unclewebb should be able to walk you through setting it up.
 

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Any windows update running in the background during that period?
The laptop probably had its run in period and now at it is "optimum" temps now after few usage perhaps?
Heat dissipation from 2 side vents seems alright, what does the heatsink like though? It is a thin laptop so expect it to get bit toasty once its up and running.
No there's no windows update running . Before 2 weeks , there was so many hot air coming from the heatsink , but now not , does this seem like the problem ?

You could have included that in your first post. More info so redundant info or questions are not asked.
What are the ambient temps in your room? Are you using afterburner and OC'ing the gpu and set a custom fan curve? Or just using the stock fan curve? I probably would not worry until gaming temps start approaching 100* and use a custom fan curve for cooling. Try throttlestop too @unclewebb should be able to walk you through setting it up.
Yeah im sorry for that , temps on my room are 27-30c and yes im using after burner and I did some undervolting in the first days of the laptop with custom curve (not fan ) , I have throttlestop too and I undervolted my cpu but still , temps are too high for idle and gaming :(
 
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with room temps at 27-30 C gaming temps at near 100 C will be normal for a laptop..

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with room temps at 27-30 C gaming temps at near 100 C will be normal for a laptop..

trog
But is it safe to play with over 93c for gpu ? actually my cpu doesn't go up to 85c but gpu is near 92c , is it safe for long time game or no ?
 
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No there's no windows update running . Before 2 weeks , there was so many hot air coming from the heatsink , but now not , does this seem like the problem ?


Yeah im sorry for that , temps on my room are 27-30c and yes im using after burner and I did some undervolting in the first days of the laptop with custom curve (not fan ) , I have throttlestop too and I undervolted my cpu but still , temps are too high for idle and gaming :(
High ambient and gaming laptop dont mix too well.

And really, laptop and gaming is usually not a happy marriage either
 
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But is it safe to play with over 93c for gpu ? actually my cpu doesn't go up to 85c but gpu is near 92c , is it safe for long time game or no ?
yes gaming laptops are all designed to both power and temp throttle.. they start off on the basis that the limited laptop cooling will never be good enough for long term full power operation..

your room temps are not ideal but in some parts of the world not unusual..

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yes gaming laptops are all designed to both power and temp throttle.. they start off on the basis that the limited laptop cooling will never be good enough for long term full power operation..

your room temps are not ideal but in some parts of the world not unusual..

trog
Thanks for your help , appreciate it :)
 
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Hello guys , I have an ASUS-F560UD laptop , I bought it 2 weeks ago and all temps were fine , 40c on idle and 75-~83c while gaming
But yesterday , my temps were really high , 50c on idle and over 90c in gaming .

Any suggestions ? I tried scanning for malware , there's nothing !
1. What were the exact ambient temps each time you took these readings ? Without having that as reference, no evaluation can be made. One day 27 and one day 30 makes a big difference.

2. What was used to provide the loading ... if it's not repeatable ... as in playing different games or different parts of a game, you're spinning your wheels.

3. It is useful to life up the back edge of the lappie to provide more intake air. As an engineer, I have a bunch of these lying around and they work great.


3. The heat sink / cooling system is obviously "not fine" if you are hitting 90C especially with ambients of 27 - 30C (80 - 86F) . I'd cut the manufacturer some slack at 95 - 110 F (35 - 43C) but certainly not at temps where we don't even turn the AC on. I have run Furmark on every laptop we've ever owned or gotten for a client and never saw 80C. Every desktop / laptop is designed to throttle ... however ... higher the heat, the greater the impact on aging, not only for the CPU / GPU but everything inside the chassis. No one walks into a store and says ... I'd like to buy a performance gaming laptop ...oh and BTW, I don't care if my performance is limited by throttling. Throttling simply means the cooling system is deficient. When it comes to gaming laptops, performance, battery life and quiet are incompatible with "slim" and "light" . Good heatsinks need mass, they need copper which is heavier and they need larger fans and bigger airways.

4. Just because someone puts a name on something and tries to foist on an unsuspecting public, doesn't mean they actually work.

a) Some laptop coolers do work, many don't.
b) Never plug their USB power plug into the lappie ... they oft draw more power than some laptops USB subsystem can handle

5. As for things you can do ...

a) research how you might be able to improve fan speeds, see if there is a key combo that switches fans to 100%.
b) Check and see if any BIOS options exist to increase fans speeds.
c) verify that they are still spinning since you said you can't feel any air flow
d) Check and see if MSI AB works ... it doesn't on many laptops.
e) Avoid rooms on higher floors or with exterior southern exposure if possible.
f) Move to an air conditioned space if possible. If the game doesn't need it, and you have a CPU with 4 cores / 8 threads use Task Manager Affinity function to disable some of them

A fellow from another forum made his own water cooling aided system, using some old parts and a beer cooler. Took a small / thin (probably tranny cooler) car radiator and affixed (9) 120mm fans that he had from old builds... all different models. Cut a hole in a cheap desk and placed a vent grille over it. Rad was affixed to the bottom of the desk and a water pump circulated the fluid from the rad to beer cooler under the desk which was filled w/ ice water.

Since you ony have it 2 weeks, if you can't solve the problem would you considered returning it assuming regas in yur area allow ? I don't know where yu are but worth noting that Asus does not actually "make" a laptop. MSI does, and thay have generally done better in this area. The vast majority of laptops on the market are manufactured by a small handful of Taiwan-based original design manufacturer (ODM), although their production bases are located mostly in mainland china.

Quanta sells to (among others) HP, Lenovo, Apple, Acer, Dell, NEC, and Fujitsu
Compal sells to (among others) Acer, Dell, Lenovo and HP
Wistron (former manufacturing & design division of Acer) sells to Dell, Acer, Lenovo and HP
Inventec sells to HP, Dell and Lenovo;
Pegatron sells to Asus, Apple, Dell and Acer
Foxconn sells to Asus, Dell, HP and Apple
Flextronics (former Arima Computer Corporation notebook division) sells to HP

Like PSUs various platforms are used, slight variations of which are sold to the retail vendors. These are all built using the same componentry, by the same folks on the same assembly lines with stying and packaging oft being the only differences between competitors' models. If you can't resolve your problems within the return period, and one is available in your area, I would consider looking at custom build laptops from a Clevo distributor. Their cooling systems are much more robust and they also have a key combo to engage 100% rm fans speeds. Usually cheaper than the mass market brands. Remember tho, lays of physics and thermodynamics still apply. With proper cooling, forget about 4 pound skinny laptops. Clevo also builds laptops with desktop components (i.e. i9-9900K ) and their cooling systems manage to keep even those cool w/o throttling.

A "light gaming" lappie w/ 1050 should run ya about $850 but that still will include some compromises. A full blown 17" gaming laptop w/ i7-9750H, 2 x 8GB, 144 hz gaming screen 2060 should run $1300 ish .
 

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@John Naylor
1. The exact temp was around 27-30c
2. There's no options to increase fan speed or even control it , can I try and update bios and see if it works ? i dunno
3. In my country , this laptop will cost around 1000$ .
4. I can't get it to the store because its too far away , if i would go to the store it will take so much time .
5.MSI AB works for me
6. I can't feel any air flow on 50-70c , when it reaches 80s i can feel a little air flow , not that much .
I need help !
 
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I dont know the specs of your laptop but something is majorly wrong. I have a 2070 in my laptop and the temps dont go above 74C at 100% on the graphics card using gpuz render rest just now. I dont use or have never used a cooling pad.
The room temp in my house is around 27C.

What are the specs of your laptop.
 
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From where you read it reach 90 degrees or more? From software? Or you use another tools to read the temp
 

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I dont know the specs of your laptop but something is majorly wrong. I have a 2070 in my laptop and the temps dont go above 74C at 100% on the graphics card using gpuz render rest just now. I dont use or have never used a cooling pad.
The room temp in my house is around 27C.

What are the specs of your laptop.
Specs are I5-8250U with 8gb ddr4 ram and gtx 1050

From where you read it reach 90 degrees or more? From software? Or you use another tools to read the temp
From MSI Afterburner and Throttlestop (Softwares)
 

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I dont know the specs of your laptop but something is majorly wrong. I have a 2070 in my laptop and the temps dont go above 74C at 100% on the graphics card using gpuz render rest just now. I dont use or have never used a cooling pad.
The room temp in my house is around 27C.

What are the specs of your laptop.
Your MSI GE75 Raider is also a 'GAMING' laptop - it is designed with 'GAMING' in mind.

This is what your laptop looks like inside.

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This is what his NON GAMING laptop looks like inside.

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Care to try again with your thesis? - I'll give you a hint. Theres a lot of stuff you have that he hasnt got.
 
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Your MSI GE75 Raider is also a 'GAMING' laptop - it is designed with 'GAMING' in mind.

This is what your laptop looks like inside.

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This is what his NON GAMING laptop looks like inside.

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Care to try again with your thesis? - I'll give you a hint. Theres a lot of stuff you have that he hasnt got.
Doesnt matter, his specs are only a 1050, I am sure that 1050 also has a heat sink. I couldnt find a picture of his laptop's inside but notebook check does have a review on it. And said this when they ran a game.

"Running Witcher 3 is more representative of real-world gaming loads. CPU and GPU temperatures stabilize in the 70 C range each with steady performance throughout."

 

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Doesnt matter, his specs are only a 1050, I am sure that 1050 also has a heat sink. I couldnt find a picture of his laptop's inside but notebook check does have a review on it. And said this when they ran a game.

"Running Witcher 3 is more representative of real-world gaming loads. CPU and GPU temperatures stabilize in the 70 C range each with steady performance throughout."

Yeah I guess all that extra metal, copper heatpiping, copper heatsinks, fan and venting means absolutely nothing :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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High ambient and gaming laptop dont mix too well.

And really, laptop and gaming is usually not a happy marriage either
He should look at how the Dell XPS Gen 1/Inspiron 9100 Laptops were built those are desktop replacement laptops, what we get today are notebooks, not good for gaming due to bad airflow.

His ambient temps suck bawls.

3 options, get a portable Airconditioner, get a desktop, get a better paying job/transfer and move to a country where Airconditioning is common.
 
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Yeah I guess all that extra metal, copper heatpiping, copper heatsinks, fan and venting means absolutely nothing :rolleyes::rolleyes:
I am now not talking about my laptop, I am talking about his laptop. If notebookcheck was able to game at 70C and OP's runs at 90C+, there is something wrong.
 

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I am now not talking about my laptop, I am talking about his laptop. If notebookcheck was able to game at 70C and OP's runs at 90C+, there is something wrong.
Its his ambients being friggin high, plus poor airflow in notebooms
 
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Its his ambients being friggin high, plus poor airflow in notebooms
Also, maybe the OP is playing a different game that is causing higher gpu temps.
To OP, different games cause different temps on the cpu and gpu.
 

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Also, maybe the OP is playing a different game that is causing higher gpu temps.
To OP, different games cause different temps on the cpu and gpu.
Yup its why in my rig i dont bother with single core autoclocking, 55 F all day on cpu gaming.
 

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Also, maybe the OP is playing a different game that is causing higher gpu temps.
To OP, different games cause different temps on the cpu and gpu.
Yeah I know that , but there's something wrong , "Every single game" I lunch , the temps go very high , even the small games. and I can't feel that much airflow when im gaming .
 
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