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Very poor advice from you :slap:
the easiest way to avoid that just using both hands when you holding it
Are you trying to get him to flat line himself!?
 
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Try touching it with different parts of your body?
 
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Definitely not with the left hand...shortest distance to the heart...high chance of venticular fibrillation..

Easiest and most secure way is to install a local earth rod near your house and get an electrician to wire it for you..

I heard somewhere that you can connect the ground to the neutral wire..may be the experts here can give an opinion...
 

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Definitely not with the left hand...shortest distance to the heart...high chance of venticular fibrillation..

Easiest and most secure way is to install a local earth rod near your house and get an electrician to wire it for you..

I heard somewhere that you can connect the ground to the neutral wire..may be the experts here can give an opinion...

Neutral is a empty return path to power station, a short will take the shortest path of resistance that is why a local ground is imperitive for safety.
 
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Maybe use a residual current circuit breaker...so the pc can trip it and switchover to a UPS?...atleast the OP won't get shocked?..
 
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Thats the culprit.
When I got my glass desk I started getting static shock like crazy.

You can run a humidifier
You can try grounding the table

Or you can create a grounding touch plug like I did,i took a pc power cord, plugged it into the wall, and then shoved a ground plug from another cord into the ground hole of the PC cord, and then I just touch it to discharge , it's connected to the ground via my electrical outlet. cheap/free & simple, plus theres only ground plugs, so you cant electrocute yourself, which is a plus ;)


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Very poor advice from you :slap:

Are you trying to get him to flat line himself!?
its from bad ground so when he touch the case it gives him little shock and trembling his finger
it's annoying
 
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so last mounth i just builed my first PC
today i touched the case and got shocked
can this damage my pc?
how can i fix it ?

If you have received a shock from a fault with the mains supply i.e. 240VAC or 110VAC depending on the country you live in then I would say you have more issues which needs to be seriously looked at by an electrician. There maybe a serious issue with your PSU with an active supply touching the case and the earthing system as well, probably both as either your Circuit Breaker or Fuse protection should have tripped or hopefully the RCD (should you have one installed) trips as they are specifically made to trip when an earth fault is present

As you haven't mentioned resetting either a circuit breaker or an RCD, indicates that the issue may lie elsewhere. It could be very well that the secondary side voltages of the PSU i.e. +12VDC, +3.3VDC, +5VDC may have a fault. You have also mentioned you don't think it is static so I'm not assuming this isn't the case either. Basically, if it is a mains side fault i.e. 240VAC, 110VAC etc. you will definitely know it when you make contact as it will hurt, not just give you a little tingle if you know what I mean, let alone the real possibility of killing you.

Turn off the PC, unplug it and remove all the PSU connectors i.e. ATX, CPU, PCIe, SATA etc. Make sure all are disconnected. Plug in and turn back on, do you still get a slight shock? If not plug the connectors in one by one, fault could be on any one of the DC outputs. There maybe an issue with the grounding of your motherboard to case etc. as well which you need to check.

If you do get a shock when all the secondary side PSU connectors are disconnected then it is highly suspect it is a mains supply fault. Stop, unplug and don't proceed. Seek professional advice.
 
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It is not something to be taken lightly, its best to remove the board and check it.

Make sure the board is mounted to the standoffs not directly to the case:

These things are standoffs:


Please let us know the model of the case, model of the board, in fact please just list your full part list for us.
im using those standoff
the case is spirit of gamer rogue II
http://www.spiritofgamer.com/rogue-two-series/

you will definitely know it when you make contact as it will hurt
yea thats what is happining when i touch the metal parts of the case i/o shield and the psu screws , and even the tempred glass screws
and when im wearing my shoes it doesnt shock
 
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im using those standoff
the case is spirit of gamer rogue II
http://www.spiritofgamer.com/rogue-two-series/


yea thats what is happining when i touch the metal parts of the case i/o shield and the psu screws , and even the tempred glass screws
and when im wearing my shoes it doesnt shock

Ok well do what I told you from my first post lets not turn this into a tail chasing episode.
 
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So ive done some tests
the pc in my room and the electrical outlet in my room = getting shocked
the pc in the kitchen xD and the outlet in the kitchen = no shocks
the pc in my room and the electrical outlet in the kitchen = getting shocked
i put my pc on a moving table with the outlet in the kitchen and starting to moving the table from my room to the kitchen i was getting shocked until the moment im out of my room the shock stoped
what do you guys think??
 

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So ive done some tests
the pc in my room and the electrical outlet in my room = getting shocked
the pc in the kitchen xD and the outlet in the kitchen = no shocks
the pc in my room and the electrical outlet in the kitchen = getting shocked
i put my pc on a moving table with the outlet in the kitchen and starting to moving the table from my room to the kitchen i was getting shocked until the moment im out of my room the shock stoped
what do you guys think??

Take it a part as i told you before.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...me-when-i-touch-the-case.250643/#post-3960947
 
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The OP can not be getting a shock from the output of the PSU, because the highest voltage output is 12 volts. You can shock yourself with a 9 volt battery on the tongue, but you can grab the terminals on a car's 12 volt battery and nothing will happen. Therefore, the motherboard could be welded to the case and the user WILL NOT GET SHOCKED! It's been a long time, but IIRC, the safety cutoff point is 33 volts, that is, you have to use safety protocols at 33 volts and above, but not below.. A lot of electronic control systems run at 24 volts for this reason. I think @Ferrum Master has the correct answer and theory, or he's very good at BS:
It is a charge build up from the Y capacitator. IEE permits 3.5mA leak. If no ground is present it could charge to usual average 50-80VAC and most people feel it. The glass table is a dielectric so it doesn't get anywhere and while touching it YOU are the best conductor. He does not have a ground present at home, there is not much he can do as a civilian.
@Alaebike , you have not told us your system specs. What PSU do you have?
 
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It is a charge build up from the Y capacitator. IEE permits 3.5mA leak. If no ground is present it could charge to usual average 50-80VAC and most people feel it. The glass table is a dielectric so it doesn't get anywhere and while touching it YOU are the best conductor.

He does not have a ground present at home, there is not much he can do as a civilian.
so its normal ? it wont harm the pc?

The OP can not be getting a shock from the output of the PSU, because the highest voltage output is 12 volts. You can shock yourself with a 9 volt battery on the tongue, but you can grab the terminals on a car's 12 volt battery and nothing will happen. Therefore, the motherboard could be welded to the case and the user WILL NOT GET SHOCKED! It's been a long time, but IIRC, the safety cutoff point is 33 volts, that is, you have to use safety protocols at 33 volts and above, but not below.. A lot of electronic control systems run at 24 volts for this reason. I think @Ferrum Master has the correct answer and theory, or he's very good at BS:

@Alaebike , you have not told us your system specs. What PSU do you have?
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i was thinking to do what this guy did
except that im living on the 6th floor so im using this will this work?
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so its normal ? it wont harm the pc?


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i was thinking to do what this guy did
except that im living on the 6th floor so im using this will this work?
View attachment 113017

This type of wiring used to be done to old washing machine with inbuilt heating elements in india...some people used to wrap the wire around a copper water pipe...
some used to wrap the wire around metal casings of tube wells...not sure how safe it is though...

the flower pot is not going to work...
 
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I'd use a thicker gauge wire and a round crimp terminal I think. Also sand the paint off the area to bare metal around the screw point so you get metal to metal contact between the terminal and the case. @Ferrum Master should be the guy qualified to weigh in on the safety of it.

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The simplest solution is to plug the computer into a Type F outlet instead of that Type C (that lacks grounding) you're presently using:
https://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plugs-and-sockets/f/

High power electronics should not be plugged into ungrounded outlets.

i was thinking to do what this guy did
except that im living on the 6th floor so im using this will this work?
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Better than nothing. Just have to be very, very careful that you're not creating a circuit.
 

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I'd use a thicker gauge wire and a round crimp terminal I think. Also sand the paint off the area to bare metal around the screw point so you get metal to metal contact between the terminal and the case. @Ferrum Master should be the guy qualified to weigh in on the safety of it.

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Small guage wire there
 

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Don't really need any more than that for a basic ground. It'll melt if it carries lightning but that's hardly the intent.
 

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Don't really need any more than that for a basic ground. It'll melt if it carries lightning but that's hardly the intent.

Id look at a 10 guage eyelet/wire plus a 8 foot copper rod grounded.
 

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That's for a whole house ground or lightning rod. OP lives on the 6th floor of an apartment building. Nuff' said.
 

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40,435 (6.61/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
Joined
Jul 14, 2006
Messages
2,405 (0.37/day)
Location
People's Republic of America
System Name It's just a computer
Processor i9-9900K Direct Die
Motherboard eVGA Z390 Dark
Cooling Dual D5T Vario, XSPC BayRes, Nemesis GTR560, NF-A14-iPPC3000PWM, NF-A14-iPPC2000, HK IV Pro Nickel
Memory G.Skill F4-4500C19D-16GTZKKE or G.Skill F4-3600C16D-16GTZ or G.Skill F4-4000C19D-32GTZSW
Video Card(s) eVGA RTX2080 FTW3 Ultra
Storage Samsung 960 EVO M.2
Display(s) LG 32GK650F
Case Thermaltake Xaser VI
Audio Device(s) Auzentech X-Meridian 7.1 2G/Z-5500
Power Supply Seasonic Prime PX-1300
Mouse Logitech
Keyboard Logitech
Software Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1
Are your monitor and PC plugged into the same receptacle?
 
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