My Phenom II vs. QX9650 results at 3810mhz

dennisjai · Feb 1, 2009

cdawall said:
your scores are really really low

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stock GPU clocks

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thats just an 8800GTS it shouldn't even look at your card

It doesn't matter whether his scores are low or high, the point is he is setting up a comparison of AMD PII vs Intel Q9XXX. It is meant to show the comparisons between the two with the same setup.

next, you are running Windows XP which benchmarks better. Then you also have everything toned down in XP to get even higher benchmarks. You do not know what he did with Vista when he is comparing the two, he could've just left all the glam on. Once again, he's doing a comparison between AMD & Intel.

sno.lcn · Feb 1, 2009

The 01 score is so low because of Vista.

And your G92 should actually be benching higher than my HD 4850 for 06.

So my scores are actually about where they should be.

cdawall · Feb 1, 2009

farlex85 said:
The 4850 is roughly equal to the 8800gts. A bit more powerful but not by much, w/ the oc on the gts they are pretty much equal. Your phenom oc'd further, and your using xp as opposed to vista. Considering all that, both your scores seem about in line w/ each other. Your only about 1k above on each of those (actually only 700 on 3dk, which could actually easily be made up w/ tweaks).

dennisjai said:
It doesn't matter whether his scores are low or high, the point is he is setting up a comparison of AMD PII vs Intel Q9XXX. It is meant to show the comparisons between the two with the same setup.

next, you are running Windows XP which benchmarks better. Then you also have everything toned down in XP to get even higher benchmarks. You do not know what he did with Vista when he is comparing the two, he could've just left all the glam on. Once again, he's doing a comparison between AMD & Intel.

sno.lcn said:
The 01 score is so low because of Vista.

And your G92 should actually be benching higher than my HD 4850 for 06.

So my scores are actually about where they should be.

woops my bad i was just looking at it going wait a min. lol

really the G92 i that close to a 4850?

ill go rerun in vista 64bit just for my piece of mind

sno.lcn · Feb 1, 2009

Yeah, Vista sucks in 01 and Aquamark, or really anything that's DX8 :toast:

cdawall · Feb 1, 2009

sno.lcn said:
Yeah, Vista sucks in 01 and Aquamark, or really anything that's DX8

well its better than windows 7 it keeps crashing on me in 01

wahdangun · Feb 1, 2009

yeah please test some games( on all resolution if you can)

sno.lcn · Feb 1, 2009

Reinstalling Vista on my test bench for the AMD testing as we speak, so far I'm going to be adding the following tests:

Crysis (at maybe 5 different combinations of settings)
Left 4 Dead (at a few difference settings)
Devil May Cry bench (maybe)
Sandra
Ripping a few DVDs
Converting movies for my ipod since it takes a while.
CrystalMark
Geekbench
Winrar (maybe)

If there's anything specific anyone else wants to see, let me know soon please.

sno.lcn · Feb 2, 2009

First post has been updated with new results. There are a few game benchies I still need to do, but I need to download the games first

Darren · Feb 2, 2009

Strange results. The Phenom II whopping the QX9650 in Crysis. Didn't think I'd see that!

farlex85 · Feb 2, 2009

Darren said:
Strange results. The Phenom II whopping the QX9650 in Crysis. Didn't think I'd see that!

Yeah something went wrong there on the qx system. Very uneven and unlikely scores there.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Feb 2, 2009

Charper2013 said:
Wow that means that QX9650 is not even nowhere near worth the extra 800$ more than the Phenom II.

q9650 has a multi of 11 i think from factory ... do the math

dennisjai · Feb 2, 2009

[I.R.A]_FBi said:
q9650 has a multi of 11 i think from factory ... do the math

uh no, it would be 9.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Feb 2, 2009

dennisjai said:
uh no, it would be 9.

Thanks for the correcting, fotgot that its 1333 not 1066

kid41212003 · Feb 2, 2009

The crysis gap is huge, I think something's wrong?

sno.lcn · Feb 2, 2009

I was thinking the same thing, but I just reran everything, almost identical results.

wolf2009 · Feb 2, 2009

wow, thats huge gap. check your driver control panel settings, and benchmark tool settings something definitely wrong

PaulieG · Feb 2, 2009

Hey sno, what's your vcore on the 940 @3.8ghz? Also, what have you heard about vcore max on these chips? I'm not asking in terms of heat, but more about electron migration. Anything?

sno.lcn · Feb 2, 2009

It needed 1.52v. I don't know where the ideal threshold is yet though.

wahdangun · Feb 2, 2009

yeah, the gap was realy huge and why crysis very high > crysis high it's unbeliveable

sno.lcn · Feb 2, 2009

I'll rerun the AMD tests after class today then. For the 3rd time.

I'll add the CPU bench for Crysis as well, at the same list of settings.

paolo.oliva2 · Feb 2, 2009

sno.lcn said:
I tried to get settings on each system as close as possible for a fair comparison. I've had this done for a week or two now, but due to RL haven't been able to get it posted until now.

Denab System:
Phenom II 940 @ 254*15
Gigabyte MA790GP-DS4H
2x1gb Team Xtreem PC8000 @ 501mhz, 4-4-4-10 2T
Gigabyte HD 4850 @ 750/1100mhz, 8.12 driver
Gigabyte ODIN Pro 1200w
WD Raptor 36gb
Windows Vista Ultimate

Yorkfield System:
QX9650 @ 401*9.5
Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
2x1gb Team Xtreem PC8000 @ 501mhz, 4-4-4-10 2T
Gigabyte HD 4850 @ 750/1100mhz, 8.12 driver
Gigabyte ODIN Pro 1200w
WD Raptor 36gb
Windows Vista Ultimate

*For PCMark 05, an ACARD ANS-9010 and a GTX 280 @ 770/1230 were subbed. That's why the scores are so high. That test could have gone either way though, as finicky as the benchmark is with no tweaking added.

I've been working on a 4ghz shootout, and have the QX9650 part finished and half of the Denab part, but my single stage decided to crap out so I need to fix it first.

good banch and good work.

I want write this.
The Phenom 940 have one best IPC not with timings DDR2 4-4-4-12, but best IPC with max possible speed ram and NB work good if have clock double of ram.
Ram 1Ghz, NB 2GHz, ram 1,250Ghz, NB 2,5GHz.

See this:

http://www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showpost.php?p=25996147&postcount=636

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=816552

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=816538

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=816537

This is winrar with one 1,5TB Seagate Barracuda (single HD and 4GHz OC but NB 2,850GHz and DDR2@1250MHz)

This is very nice... Photoworxx Everest at 4,1GHz

Binge · Feb 2, 2009

Very high test seems correct for me. Memory bandwidth is a huge factor when it comes to playing at that setting.

HTC · Feb 2, 2009

I find it interesting that DVDRip was just over 20% faster on PII: Does it use all 4 cores?

It's more then just a few % faster: that's a significant margin, there.

sno.lcn · Feb 2, 2009

I have a good bit of more Sandra data I haven't posted yet. I'll sift through it and get it posted around lunchtime. And, of course, keep testing, testing, testing

*Edit: And updated with all the data I have currently. Stay tuned, lots more incoming as I find time :toast:

cdawall · Feb 2, 2009

hey what is the NB you are using on the phenom?

Processor	Intel 6700K
Motherboard	Asus Maximus VIII Impact
Cooling	Noctua NH-L9x65
Memory	2 x 16 GB G.Skill TridentZ @ 3200 MHz
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte GTX 1070 Mini
Case	Thermaltake Suppressor F1
Power Supply	SilverStone 600w SFX

System Name	All the cores
Processor	2990WX
Motherboard	Asrock X399M
Cooling	CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory	4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s)	(2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
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Case	Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
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Power Supply	Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse	Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard	Keychron K8
Software	W10P

Processor	Intel 6700K
Motherboard	Asus Maximus VIII Impact
Cooling	Noctua NH-L9x65
Memory	2 x 16 GB G.Skill TridentZ @ 3200 MHz
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte GTX 1070 Mini
Case	Thermaltake Suppressor F1
Power Supply	SilverStone 600w SFX

System Name	All the cores
Processor	2990WX
Motherboard	Asrock X399M
Cooling	CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory	4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s)	(2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage	2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s)	Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case	Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s)	Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse	Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard	Keychron K8
Software	W10P

Processor	Intel 6700K
Motherboard	Asus Maximus VIII Impact
Cooling	Noctua NH-L9x65
Memory	2 x 16 GB G.Skill TridentZ @ 3200 MHz
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte GTX 1070 Mini
Case	Thermaltake Suppressor F1
Power Supply	SilverStone 600w SFX

My Phenom II vs. QX9650 results at 3810mhz

dennisjai

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cdawall

where the hell are my stars

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cdawall

where the hell are my stars

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where the hell are my stars

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