Mysteries of the Sun

[Drone]

 

[Drone]

 

[FCG]

CMEs and solar flares in the sun have their counterpart in hurricanes here on Earth. Same mechanism, different body (star vs. planet). That is to say, star, inside-out-star, or perhaps, planet, inside-out-planet. Whichever you prefer.

 

[FCG]

Low sun spot activity -> low "extreme" weather events on Earth....

High sun spot activity -> significant increase in "extreme" Earth-weather events.... with emphasis on hurricane/tornado

But sun spots, we are told, are cooler than the surrounding corona. This statement is based on observation of "darkened area" in the region of the CME. How can this be? How can a HUGE ejection of extremely-energetic particles result in a reduced temperature in the area of incidence?

It's like it's inverted (reciprocal, maybe?)... hmm

Colder... perceived colder by our senses as the thermal motion has exceeded 1 natural unit (for temperature, recall temperature is simply a measure of thermal motion... an effective net inward linear vibration in the time region of the atom) and that motion continues into a 2nd scalar dimension wherein a further increase in temperature is observed as an increase in inverse-temperature (a reduction in temperature, from our perspective). While the thermal motion continues to increase, and the expression is reversed due to the magnitude of the motion... what is hotter appears progressively cooler to both our senses and our instrumentation... we are observing FASTER THAN LIGHT (FLT) motion.

The "speed of light" is not a limit.

It's a constant of proportionality. Specifically, s/t = 1 = c or 1 unit of space to 1 unit of time.

One guy (Einstein) claims FTL motion is not possible. One guy... and everyone's swallow it's deep and hard and now we can't even conceive of the alternative... human spirit is being crushed. Think for yourself!

P.S. No, FTL motion does not allow anything to go "back in time" a.k.a "time travel."

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[xtreemchaos]

sun spots are strange when we look at them from earth with just what we see, the temp difference is just mind blowing but the truth is we dont really know the sun very well, we make guesses with a bit of data we get but its sketchy at best.
i tend to forget about the science when working and just love Sol for the mightyness of it. sun spots are one of most wonderful things to watch in realtime and when there flaring there very dynamic and get me spelbound untill the next bit of cloud comes along, thay come all different sizes some looking like animals or other crazy shapes but i can tell one thing sol never dissapoints.
heres a shot from last year which also shows a caterpilla fillament which is quite rare.

opps ive just realised where in 2019 this is from 2017 i lost a year somewhere

 

[Drone]

@xtreemchaos nice shot there!

Short video by NAOJ

 

[xtreemchaos]

thanks Drone , we had a nice few days imaging when i caught that one, theres another AR coming on to the discs. its been quiet and cloudy for the most of this year mainly just proms to snap but theres is 2 small spots today my friend told me but 100% cloud here in south wales.

 

[Drone]

This image shows the Sun through various phases of the total solar eclipse visible over ESO's La Silla Observatory on 2 July 2019.

 

[Drone]

First detailed images of a turbulent surface of the Sun

 

[Drone]

 

[pyrotenax]

Images of the Sun , taken through the Swedish Solar Telescope ...

 

[Space Lynx]

Can someone please explain to me the relationship of the sun and our ozone layer? So I read recently that Ozone Layer over Antarctica opens up every year still, we never actually closed it which I guess is myth? So how come the suns radiation doesn't simply obliterate Antarctica when the ozone layer opens up? Also, why is no one urged to close it, like wasn't their a big rallying cry in the science worlds among all nations a long long time ago, to stop certain sprays/chemicals being used to close the Ozone back up? It apparently worked? I read recently it actually never did close though, it closes and opens once a year.

Why are we not more worried about this?

Also, I am not a big sun person, but I do feel like the last couple of years the sun is "stronger" or quicker to burn people. Could this be a thinning of our atmospheric protection? What is the difference between that and the ozone layer? If I am correct, why are more people not worried about this? Or maybe people I know are just getting out more, I don't know, hence the increased frequency of burns. I am just curious if anyone has read anything on this.

@Shrek @lexluthermiester

 

[AMF]

if u were to stand under the open zone ud burn way way way faster. yes solar activity is in in upward climb. ..

 

[Space Lynx]

if u were to stand under the open zone ud burn way way way faster

Are there any efforts under way to try to close it up more permanently? How would we accomplish it? Why is no one worried about this?

 

[AMF]

i dont think itcan be its amassive hole

 

[Space Lynx]

i dont think itcan be its amassive hole

It does close on its own naturally once a year, something I read said, "stuff from lower atmosphere fills in the hole" it's a cycle now... sorry not very scientific, but it does get closed every year... so we need to figure out that process, and see if it is something that can be more permanent. That would help the Antarctic stay frozen longer...

 

[AMF]

natural cycle of the earth ice melting its gonna be gone at some point anyways artifical means of restoring ozone may do more harm than good

 

[lexluthermiester]

Can someone please explain to me the relationship of the sun and our ozone layer?

The OZone layer protects the biosphere from the harsh ionizing and high energy radiation emitted from the Sun. It's really that simple.

 

[Blaeza]

@xtreemchaos nice shot there!

Short video by NAOJ

I see a pringle.

 

[Wirko]

It does close on its own naturally once a year, something I read said, "stuff from lower atmosphere fills in the hole" it's a cycle now... sorry not very scientific, but it does get closed every year... so we need to figure out that process, and see if it is something that can be more permanent. That would help the Antarctic stay frozen longer...

You may be taking the "hole" a bit too literally ... it's not a hole with sharply defined edges and zero ozone inside. Rather, it's a layer that becomes thinner and thicker again over time.

A lot has been done to restore the ozone layer. Chlorofluorocarbons for refrigeration and other uses were banned in the 90s all over the world. (Can you imagine this kind of worldwide agreement on anything relevant thirty years later?) Now they're decaying in the atmosphere, but it's a slow process that takes decades. Wikipedia has some data, see also linked sources #26 and #27.

 

[Space Lynx]

The OZone layer protects the biosphere from the harsh ionizing and high energy radiation emitted from the Sun. It's really that simple.

I feel like this is important as **** and NASA and other agencies should be looking at how to help it heal faster... why am I the only one alarmed by this?

 

[AMF]

because theres nothing but research that isa being done why worry if u cant fix it.. all u can do is research

 

[Shrek]

Can someone please explain to me the relationship of the sun and our ozone layer? So I read recently that Ozone Layer over Antarctica opens up every year still, we never actually closed it which I guess is myth? So how come the suns radiation doesn't simply obliterate Antarctica when the ozone layer opens up? Also, why is no one urged to close it, like wasn't their a big rallying cry in the science worlds among all nations a long long time ago, to stop certain sprays/chemicals being used to close the Ozone back up? It apparently worked? I read recently it actually never did close though, it closes and opens once a year.

Why are we not more worried about this?

Also, I am not a big sun person, but I do feel like the last couple of years the sun is "stronger" or quicker to burn people. Could this be a thinning of our atmospheric protection? What is the difference between that and the ozone layer? If I am correct, why are more people not worried about this? Or maybe people I know are just getting out more, I don't know, hence the increased frequency of burns. I am just curious if anyone has read anything on this.

@Shrek @lexluthermiester

What little I know from: Physics Concepts & Connections 5th edition, Art Hobson Chapter 9

• Ozone blocks UV
• Ozone is destroyed by hydrofluorocarbons (CFCs)

In 1987 47 nations forged The Ozone Treaty to phase out their use; however, they are long lived, but their levels are starting to come down.

The 1995 Nobel prize in chemistry was given to the people who figured out what was happening. The Nobel Committee commended them for having "contributed to our salvation from a global environmental problem that could have catastrophic consequences."

 

[AMF]

if all man died on earth thousands of years from now hfc's produced by us will still be killing ozone

You may be taking the "hole" a bit too literally ... it's not a hole with sharply defined edges and zero ozone inside. Rather, it's a layer that becomes thinner and thicker again over time.

A lot has been done to restore the ozone layer. Chlorofluorocarbons for refrigeration and other uses were banned in the 90s all over the world. (Can you imagine this kind of worldwide agreement on anything relevant thirty years later?) Now they're decaying in the atmosphere, but it's a slow process that takes decades. Wikipedia has some data, see also linked sources #26 and #27.

agreed....yes andthey replaced it with butane and other additives which cause testicular cancer........cant win for losing

 

[Shrek]

It does close on its own naturally once a year, something I read said, "stuff from lower atmosphere fills in the hole" it's a cycle now... sorry not very scientific, but it does get closed every year... so we need to figure out that process, and see if it is something that can be more permanent. That would help the Antarctic stay frozen longer...

The ozone issue and global warming are separate issues

if all man died on earth thousands of years from now hfc's produced by us will still be killing ozone

While long lived, they do not last that long when in the atmosphere.

butane and other additives which cause testicular cancer

Do you have a reference for butane causing cancer?

natural cycle of the earth ice melting its gonna be gone at some point anyways artifical means of restoring ozone may do more harm than good

The ozone issue and global warming are separate issues