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intel igent · Jun 25, 2008

CFM is pretty much useless, pressure is where it's at

Wile E · Jun 25, 2008

intel igent said:
CFM is pretty much useless, pressure is where it's at

Regardless, those fans won't be very good for rad use.

And D, you have to realize that test was with a dual core. The differences will be much greater with a higher heat load.

DaMulta · Jun 25, 2008

Says Quad

My CPU is under deep freeze tho, the rad would just be for video cards.

Wile do you think I need those fittings? I think I do.....

Wile E · Jun 25, 2008

DaMulta said:
Says Quad

My CPU is under deep freeze tho, the rad would just be for video cards.

Wile do you think I need those fittings? I think I do.....

Hmmm, must've been thinking of another review.

Anyway, yeah you should get something to connect the blocks together to make it easier. Koolance has some nice ones.

DaMulta · Jun 25, 2008

will they fit?

I don't know about threadng.

Wile E · Jun 25, 2008

I dunno. Haven't really looked into it yet.

MKmods · Jun 25, 2008

DaMulta said:
will they fit?

I don't know about threadng.

yes they fit
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=400

the prob is the ID of it.. if you are using the fat boys these are quite a bit smaller ID. Also Koolance uses very few threads so if there is a bevel on the video card coolers there wont be enough threads to grab.

(Koolance uses G 1/4" threads, lol just fewer of them)

cdawall · Jun 29, 2008

subscribing building my 1st H2O setup

EastCoasthandle · Jun 29, 2008

cdawall said:
subscribing building my 1st H2O setup

Welcome to the thread. Let us know how things go! :toast:

cdawall · Jun 29, 2008

EastCoasthandle said:
Welcome to the thread. Let us know how things go!

i figure this would be the place to ask i think i fit to BIX 240 in the front of my case would fans-rad-fans-rad-fans work?

Wile E · Jun 29, 2008

cdawall said:
i figure this would be the place to ask i think i fit to BIX 240 in the front of my case would fans-rad-fans-rad-fans work?

You'd lose some efficiency. The air will pick up some heat from the first rad, and blow thru the second rad.

cdawall · Jun 29, 2008

Wile E said:
You'd lose some efficiency. The air will pick up some heat from the first rad, and blow thru the second rad.

so if i did do that it would be better to run the loop through the 2nd rad 1st?

DaMulta · Jun 29, 2008

I would not tie them together in either case, but I see what you are saying just heat up one rad two times with the last one should be the coldest and then though the system.

It could work, you would just have to try and see.

What do you guys think of my idea lol

pump at 17v, then 3 gpu blocks, hits the 480 rad, then into another 17v pump, and finally going into a bay res before hitting the other pump again.

DOM · Jun 29, 2008

DaMulta said:
What do you guys think of my idea lol

pump at 17v, then 3 gpu blocks, hits the 480 rad, then into another 17v pump, and finally going into a bay res before hitting the other pump again.

im planning on going res.>pump>rad>blocks>pump>res. or res.>pump>blocks>pump>rad>res.

MKmods · Jun 29, 2008

DaMulta said:
pump at 17v, then 3 gpu blocks, hits the 480 rad, then into another 17v pump, and finally going into a bay res before hitting the other pump again.

My thought is if thats a 12V rated pump its lifespan is gonna be shortlived.

SirKeldon · Jun 29, 2008

Since one month and a half my loop is like this: res->pump->block->double rad->single rad->res

In my case it was far better than one single rad, i won more than 8-10ºC with both together (back-to-back) in front to the usual 4-6ºC you're used to see when you change from a single to a double rad, and maybe i could run a cpu + gpu block's when i improve my pump.

Here's how i planned the loop:

The result with the new P45 mobo (i have to clean it all a lil bit as well as manage better the cables but this mobo is not the best for that, at least the "Pro" version):

Wile E · Jul 1, 2008

MKmods said:
My thought is if thats a 12V rated pump its lifespan is gonna be shortlived.

My thoughts exactly. Not only that, but 17V could possibly cause a bit of heat dump, negating any benefit of the higher pressure and flow.

EastCoasthandle · Jul 7, 2008

SirKeldon said:
Since one month and a half my loop is like this: res->pump->block->double rad->single rad->res

In my case it was far better than one single rad, i won more than 8-10ºC with both together (back-to-back) in front to the usual 4-6ºC you're used to see when you change from a single to a double rad, and maybe i could run a cpu + gpu block's when i improve my pump.

Here's how i planned the loop:

The result with the new P45 mobo (i have to clean it all a lil bit as well as manage better the cables but this mobo is not the best for that, at least the "Pro" version):

Nice

Cold Storm · Jul 7, 2008

All right guys.. what are your thoughts on this matter?

intel igent · Jul 7, 2008

MKmods said:
My thought is if thats a 12V rated pump its lifespan is gonna be shortlived.

IIRC D5 are rated 12-24v

WileE said:
My thoughts exactly. Not only that, but 17V could possibly cause a bit of heat dump, negating any benefit of the higher pressure and flow.

IMO the added heat dump will be negligible in his situation due to the 480 RAD

@ sirkeldon : looking good man! nice and tidy

@ coldstorm : look's like a good list, only thing's i'd change are the RAD (swiftech mcr-320) and the fitting's (DD/bitspower fatboy's). good choice of tubing it's pliabillity will make it easy to slide over 1/2" barb's

not shure if that fan controller will work with those fan's....

cdawall · Jul 7, 2008

my new parts list please critique

cpu block: maze 4
pump: MCP655 variable (already have)
rad: hopefully dual BIX 240s (already have one)
res: Swiftech mini-res
barbs: Bitspower G1/4" 1/2" barbs all around
tubing: Tygon R3400 1/2in. ID 3/4in. OD (its the black kind)

i was also wondering is there anyway to water cool my mosfets?

DaMulta · Jul 7, 2008

MKmods said:
My thought is if thats a 12V rated pump its lifespan is gonna be shortlived.

It is a 12v but they show graphs on what the pump will do at 24v. So I think that it can take the extra v to them.

MKmods · Jul 7, 2008

Does the extra flow lower the temps (because dosent increasing the Volts/speed also increase the heat dump of the pump)

One other thing I am trying to figure is the faster water flows the more surface friction there is.

DaMulta · Jul 7, 2008

MKmods said:
Does the extra flow lower the temps (because dosent increasing the Volts/speed also increase the heat dump of the pump)

One other thing I am trying to figure is the faster water flows the more surface friction there is.

It all depends on how big your run is. On smaller runs 17v could hurt you, but longer runs it could help you. If you rad is slowing the flow way down, running it faster can help temps as well.

It's something that needs to be played with to find out IMO.

MKmods · Jul 7, 2008

thanks for the info

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Storage	SSD 64GB
Display(s)	Envision 24'' 1920x1200
Case	Using the desk ATM
Audio Device(s)	Sucky onboard for now :(
Power Supply	1000W TruePower Quattro

System Name	The ClusterF**k
Processor	980X @ 4Ghz
Motherboard	Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12
Cooling	MCR-320, DDC-1 pump w/Bitspower res top (1/2" fittings), Koolance CPU-360
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Power Supply	ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W
Software	Win7 Ultimate N x64, OSX 10.8.4

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Cooling	OcZ Phase/water
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Storage	SSD 64GB
Display(s)	Envision 24'' 1920x1200
Case	Using the desk ATM
Audio Device(s)	Sucky onboard for now :(
Power Supply	1000W TruePower Quattro

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Video Card(s)	single 9800GT
Storage	Raptor 150's in Raid0
Display(s)	LG Flatron 24"
Case	Custom
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Power Supply	Custom modded Corsair 750HX
Software	Win 7 64/Solaris Utility
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Power Supply	Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse	Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard	Keychron K8
Software	W10P

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Motherboard	Maximus Formula
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Video Card(s)	HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Storage	2
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Case	P180
Audio Device(s)	X-fi Plantinum
Power Supply	Silencer 750
Software	XP Pro SP3 to Windows 7
Benchmark Scores	This varies from one driver to another.

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Motherboard	Asrock
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Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200
Software	W 10 Pro

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Mouse	Logitech G700s
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Storage	Too Many
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