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My Linux System Administration instructor shared this with us, and I found it amusing.


The UK's National Crime Agency has publicly distanced itself from a poster urging parents to call police if their child has installed Kali Linux, Tor or – brace yourself – Discord.

Issued by the West Midlands Regional Organised Crime Unit (WMROCU) via local area councils, the poster in question lists a slack handful of common infosec tools – as well as some that clearly have nothing to do with computer security.

Should your child install Kali Linux, virtual machines (the image on the poster looks like Virtualbox) or internet privacy tool Tor, West Midlands Police wants to know immediately. And if – Heaven forfend – your sprog installs Metasploit to learn how to secure code, uses free chat service for gamers Discord, or gets a Wi-Fi Pineapple for research, you may as well report straight to your nearest prison and abandon your tainted offspring forever.

"If you see any of these on their computer, or have a child you think is hacking, let us know so we can give advice and engage them into positive diversions," intones the offending poster, forwarded to us by a reader and which we reproduce below in all its glory.


Oh no! I have VirtualBox, Discord and Tor on my computer! I guess I better fly to the UK and turn myself in to the police so they can tell me what a filthy hacker I am!

Also I have no idea what "WiFi Pineapple" even is. My guess is that it's a packet sniffer like Wireshark.
 
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What the fuck is West Midlands Regional Organised Crime Unit ?
This is SO dumb it's not even funny.
 

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I should show them of a screen shot of my installed software, they will probably fly someone out.
 
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looked up wifi pinapple.. and i don't know if i should post it here XD
fun things the police let you know about...
 
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I should show them of a screen shot of my installed software, they will probably fly someone out.
That makes two of us, and we can not be alone! ROFLMBO!
 
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Hahaha, I saw this too.

Honestly, the whole 'is your kid a hacker?' thing never made a lot of sense to me. Just be glad they're learning a really useful skill, and they're interested in technical things that have a learning curve. That bodes well for them. There will be jobs in the things they'll move onto if they're actually getting into things like Kali Linux and Metasploit as kids. Good, legitimate, high-demand jobs. Having an interest in internet security isn't a bad thing. Let them learn! That's how you do it... test the waters and figure out how everything works. By the time they're old enough for formal education they'll be naturals with some heart in it. How is that bad? Because you're too scared to learn about how computers work and rather than take an interest in what they're doing, want to push your fears onto them and force them down the path of hiding everything they do away from you because they don't trust you to understand?

It's sad. It's 2020 and somehow we still have technophobes stirring up crap for kids. Geez, man. I thought that was on its way out when I was growing up. When I was a kid, if you could do anything out of the ordinary on a computer, you were a genius. I remember when my parents saw me messing around in Photoshop and thought I was the next Steve Jobs lol. Forget when I picked up 3dsmax :laugh:

I think I'd be more concerned about my kid being on youtube or tiktok at this point. Kinda joking, kinda not.


Also... discord is for hackers... that one still puzzles me. How did they work that one out?
 
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Looks like I'm somewhat of a hacker myself lmao
 

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What the fuck is West Midlands Regional Organised Crime Unit ?
This is SO dumb it's not even funny.
A small part of the UK,


They are just trying to make parent(s) aware.
 
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Their communication is explicitly asking more of parents than awareness.

"If you see any of these on their computer... let us know...."
True, but not as if they could not find out anyways.
 
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Their communication is explicitly asking more of parents than awareness.

"If you see any of these on their computer... let us know...."
The real question is, would parents narc on their kids to the government? If the implication is that these things are related to criminal activities, then it would seem they are asking parents to basically turn their own kids in. Like, no "Talk to your kids about internet hacking." Nope... it's more like "Talk to us about your kid's internet hacking." Ooof.

Of course they also say its so they can guide you through dealing with it, but how are you supposed to know who is giving who info? Who's to say they don't put ya'll on a watchlist somewhere? I don't know if I could make that phone call as a parent who would think this was a big deal lol.

Like, hypothetically - and this is extreme. But... if you found some drugs on your little johnny, would you turn him into the police so he can catch his first charge? No heart to heart or anything, no asking what's going on... just call in the Jakes the moment you found it. They would want to know. "Johnny, your father just found your stash in your backpack. We want you to know we're very disappointed in you. The police are on their way to ask you some questions. And you'd better sit here until they show up so you can tell them what you've done. And don't you dare make us do it!" :laugh:

If you caught them pirating Disney, would you call Disney asking what to do about it? Sounds stupid, but... it is. :ohwell:

Good on you pointing that out. Even if they were on the mark with the signs, it would still look pretty bad. I can imagine as a parent reading this and knowing nothing, panicking and thinking my child is on their way to a life in jail for cyber-terrorism. Could you imagine? What would you do? I probably wouldn't tell anyone and I would be on that kid so fast... become their shadow and make sure they don't pull off any traffic shutdowns with their hacker friends. :rolleyes:

For real though. That's a mess. I feel bad for any kids who's parents bought this and went all witness protection on em. To have an ear in on some of those phonecalls. You just know they've gotta be golden. Probably the unspoken reason for disassociating, other than being publicly laughed at and called out by major tech journals.
 
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the fact that u can get a kali distro off the windows store for free... and its a sanctioned wsl bash makes this funnier.

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E for Everyone :p

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Good on you pointing that out. Even if they were on the mark with the signs, it would still look pretty bad. I can imagine as a parent reading this and knowing nothing, panicking and thinking my child is on their way to a life in jail for cyber-terrorism. Could you imagine? What would you do? I probably wouldn't tell anyone and I would be on that kid so fast... become their shadow and make sure they don't pull off any traffic shutdowns with their hacker friends. :rolleyes:
IKR... more like on their way to making 200k a year as a cybersecurity specialist.
 
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IKR... more like on their way to making 200k a year as a cybersecurity specialist.
For real though! I would be so excited for my kid to be learning about how things really work. I'd be helping them along and learning with them any time they were interested. Just so proud. How many kids even really think about how the internet works? For most of them it's just a tool. If they're perceptive enough to wonder "How does that work?" and smart enough to start working out ways to reverse engineer it, I'm encouraging that if anything. That way, I don't even have to worry about them abusing anything too much because I'm already involved in a positive way, by sort of giving a platform.

I mean, you never know what a kid's future might be like, but even if something like that is only a piece of it, that's not insignificant. To have a mind for it early is meaningful in itself. That should be easy enough to grasp, even if that's all that makes sense about it to you. They're taking some initiative in looking deeper into how something works.

I mean, couldn't you just... I dunno... ask them about it? Talking about all of this 'watching for the signs' parenting... but they might've been missing the road on this one. I'd like to know what these organizations actually know, haha. Did they maybe just out things they consider when looking into people? :laugh:
 
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LOL. :roll:

WMROCU! :fear:
 
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I mean, couldn't you just... I dunno... ask them about it? Talking about all of this 'watching for the signs' parenting... but they might've been missing the road on this one.
This happened not to long ago whether it was a prank or not.

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The Ethernet cable tourniquet is a nice touch.
 
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It's so funny -- it's true these are basically the same people...

"OMG JIMMY IS DOING DRUGS, CALL THIS 'COOLER MASTER' AND TELL HIM HE WILL NOT BE MASTER OF MY BABY!"
[on the phone...]
"Oh... Thermal... Paste?? for Computers?"
[2 days later sees poster]
"OMG JIMMY IS A HACKER CRIMINAL, HE IS ON DISCORD WITH ALL HIS DEGENERATE FRIENDS PLANNING ON SHOOTING UP AN UNKNOWN PLAYERS BATTLE PLAYGROUND AND THE POLICE ARE ON TO HIM!!"

Little did Jimmy know that building his own rig to play PUBG with his friends would tear his family apart at the core.
 
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They are just trying to make parent(s) aware.
With misinformation... I mean seriously, discord is a platform for "exchanging hacking tips" now?

I'm not surprised it's the UK though... their whole policy on what goes on online has been backwards for a bit now.
 
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I'm not surprised it's the UK though... their whole policy on what goes on online has been backwards for a bit now.
There we go. And yes, the UK government has been overstepping it's boundaries for a few decades now. The sheople of that nation do not see the danger that besets them. With each passing year the UK becomes more like NAZI Germany than anything else.
 
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There we go. And yes, the UK government has been overstepping it's boundaries for a few decades now. The sheople of that nation do not see the danger that besets them. With each passing year the UK becomes more like NAZI Germany than anything else.
I think that's a general trend, at this point, for quite a few countries.
 
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That's what you get having uneducated people at wrong chairs at the government.

It is not a problem only around UK... in general, just some sort of idiot again, just like US had PMRC during eighties trying to regulate bad influence from Rock artists. Lucky there were really intellectual people like Dee Snider, Frank Zappa during the Senate hearings dismissed all the false perceptions. I haven't heard such nonsense about children education across northern or eastern EU thou.

There will be always some unknown that casts fear to uneducated parents. It is only natural... go on... nothing unusual.

like NAZI Germany than anything else.
These claims are rather extreme and wrong. Can anyone at last leave the WW2 alone? We have Germans also here btw.
 
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With misinformation... I mean seriously, discord is a platform for "exchanging hacking tips" now?

I'm not surprised it's the UK though... their whole policy on what goes on online has been backwards for a bit now.
I vaguely remember a porn ban.

A PORN BAN.

I guess Brexit was for the best? I mean this is next level backwards really. As in, third world country backwards, in so so many ways. What's next, a campaign against condoms?
 

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Processor Ryzen 5 2600x
Motherboard Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling AMD Wraith Spire I think
Memory 2 x 8GB G-skill Aegis 3000 or somesuch
Video Card(s) Asus GTX 760 DCU2OC 2GB
Storage Kingston A400 240GB | WD Blue 1TB x 2
Display(s) BenQ GL2450HT
Case Some old Antec
Audio Device(s) Line6 UX1 + slightly modded Sony DR-ZX302
Power Supply Fractal Design Effekt 400W
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Cherry MX-Board 3.0
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores I once had +100 dorfs in DF, so yeah pretty great
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