Need help buying W10 online

[E-Bear]

Hi.

Can you suggest me a safe and good place to buy and download Windows 10 home edition in french and in Canada ?


Also why these websites are selling licences cheaper than on microsoft website themselves ?

Thanks

 

[kapone32]

Amazon.ca they are totally legit just do the search for Windows 10 key

 

[E-Bear]

Amazon.ca they are totally legit just do the search for Windows 10 key

Its all over 100$. The other ones are right online and you just buy a key.

 

[kurosagi01]

Pointless asking here, you either go down "legit" root and buy it from a reputable retailer like Amazon, Newegg, Microsoft store, any other genuine computer store and pay the $100+ or gamble and pay pennies for key from a key seller and see how long it will stay authenticate for. You may be lucky you may not be.

 

[Papahyooie]

Pointless asking here, you either go down "legit" root and buy it from a reputable retailer like Amazon, Newegg, Microsoft store, any other genuine computer store and pay the $100+ or gamble and pay pennies for key from a key seller and see how long it will stay authenticate for. You may be lucky you may not be.

To be fair, TPU endorses one of those shady key sellers lol.

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[kapone32]

Its all over 100$. The other ones are right online and you just buy a key.

I will look and see what I can get for you

I will look and see what I can get for you

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[Bill_Bright]

The price is "too good to be true" keys are legitimate keys. The sale of those keys is not. "Because they work" or have been endorsed by a legitimate organization does not legitimize them.

Those super cheap keys are broken out of "volume" license packages. For example, an organization may buy a 1000 key volume license package, but only use 800 of them. Then someone is trying to sell the unused 200 individually. But by the terms of those volume licenses, all keys are supposed to stay together and with the company that bought the volume license, or sold together as an entire 1000 key package - that is, not individually. So while those 200 keys themselves are legitimate, selling them is not.

If such sales were 100% legitimate, why doesn't Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart, Costco, Newegg, Tiger Direct, Micro Center or Sams buy huge volume packages then sell them individually so cheaply too? Note that Amazon.ca link above shows the key is being sold by "Andy music" and NOT Amazon itself.

Not illegal ≠ Legitimate

kurosagi01 is right. You can pay pennies and get a key that likely will be authenticated. You may be lucky and it will work forever. But your luck may not last and since such licenses are not obtained through legitimate authorized sellers, you have no license agreement with Microsoft and therefore, Microsoft will not be obligated to support or re-authenticate/re-authorize your license.

Now those are the facts. Others may and likely will chime in with their opinions and anecdotal examples - but opinions and anecdotes don't change the facts.

 

[kapone32]

The price is "too good to be true" keys are legitimate keys. The sale of those keys is not. "Because they work" or have been endorsed by a legitimate organization does not legitimize them.

Those super cheap keys are broken out of "volume" license packages. For example, an organization may buy a 1000 key volume license package, but only use 800 of them. Then someone is trying to sell the unused 200 individually. But by the terms of those volume licenses, all keys are supposed to stay together and with the company that bought the volume license, or sold together as an entire 1000 key package - that is, not individually. So while those 200 keys themselves are legitimate, selling them is not.

If such sales were 100% legitimate, why doesn't Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart, Costco, Newegg, Tiger Direct, Micro Center or Sams buy huge volume packages then sell them individually so cheaply too? Note that Amazon.ca link above shows the key is being sold by "Andy music" and NOT Amazon itself.

Not illegal ≠ Legitimate

kurosagi01 is right. You can pay pennies and get a key that likely will be authenticated. You may be lucky and it will work forever. But your luck may not last and since such licenses are not obtained through legitimate authorized sellers, you have no license agreement with Microsoft and therefore, Microsoft will not be obligated to support or re-authenticate/re-authorize your license.

Now those are the facts. Others may and likely will chime in with their opinions and anecdotal examples - but opinions and anecdotes don't change the facts.

Well I have been using these keys ever since Windows 10 was released. In one instance I had changed my MB and CPU and Windows did not accept the hardware changes button. I had to call Microsoft and guess what there was no mention of my key being invalid. There was no mention of the key being bought from a shady source the only thing that was said is "Sir I have reactivated Windows for you is there any thing else".

 

[Sasqui]

I've asked the same question and gotten the same response, there are a ton of sites out there that sell them for cheap and they work. Ironically, I bought Win10 for my laptop 2nd harddrive, then found out I don't need a key as it's burned into the laptop.

Well I have been using these keys ever since Windows 10 was released. In one instance I had changed my MB and CPU and Windows did not accept the hardware changes button. I had to call Microsoft and guess what there was no mention of my key being invalid. There was no mention of the key being bought from a shady source the only thing that was said is "Sir I have reactivated Windows for you is there any thing else".

Don't engage with the conscience police lol

 

[Bill_Bright]

Well I have been using these keys ever since Windows 10 was released. In one instance I had changed my MB and CPU and Windows did not accept the hardware changes button. I had to call Microsoft and guess what there was no mention of my key being invalid. There was no mention of the key being bought from a shady source the only thing that was said is "Sir I have reactivated Windows for you is there any thing else".

LOL As I said,

Now those are the facts. Others may and likely will chime in with their opinions and anecdotal examples - but opinions and anecdotes don't change the facts.

I had to call Microsoft and guess what there was no mention of my key being invalid.

And guess what? No where did anyone say or even suggest the keys were "invalid". In fact, I specifically said the "keys are legitimate keys".

 

[newtekie1]

Are the keys from gray market sites 100% legit? No. Do they work most of the time? Yeah. Have I seen them fail? Yeah. I have a customer that bought about 50 keys from one of those gray market sites to upgrade all their company's computers to Windows 10 Pro. They worked for about 3 months, then one day they came in and all 50 computers were asking for Windows to be activated, and wouldn't re-activate using the keys he bought. All the keys were bought from the same seller. In fact, he was sent just one key. So, yeah, volume license all the way here as most volume licensing organizations are just given a single key from Microsoft. And I'm guessing when whatever organization the key came from ended their licensing agreement with Microsoft, Microsoft killed that key in their activation servers.

Yes, it is a gamble, but for the price it is hard to pass up. I mean, even if you have to re-buy a key every year it might take 5+ years before you reach the cost of outright buying a OEM copy of Windows.

Me personally? If I'm building a computer for someone, I always use a legit key bought from Newegg or Amazon directly, I don't want anything coming back to haunt me. For my own computers, well there are still plenty of Windows 7 keys floating around that still activate Windows 10, so I just use one from my stack of COA stickers that I have from dead computers(yes, I know, also not technically legit).

 

[Bill_Bright]

In fact, he was sent just one key.

Yeah, this is how it was for us with a government network and 800 nodes we used to manage. We got one key but were require to have auditing software installed on the network too to keep track of the number (of all the software - not just Windows) being used. From a network administrative point of view, this made it incredibly easy to manage (and inventory) - and stay 100% legal.

 

[E-Bear]

The price is "too good to be true" keys are legitimate keys. The sale of those keys is not. "Because they work" or have been endorsed by a legitimate organization does not legitimize them.

Those super cheap keys are broken out of "volume" license packages. For example, an organization may buy a 1000 key volume license package, but only use 800 of them. Then someone is trying to sell the unused 200 individually. But by the terms of those volume licenses, all keys are supposed to stay together and with the company that bought the volume license, or sold together as an entire 1000 key package - that is, not individually. So while those 200 keys themselves are legitimate, selling them is not.

If such sales were 100% legitimate, why doesn't Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart, Costco, Newegg, Tiger Direct, Micro Center or Sams buy huge volume packages then sell them individually so cheaply too? Note that Amazon.ca link above shows the key is being sold by "Andy music" and NOT Amazon itself.

Not illegal ≠ Legitimate

kurosagi01 is right. You can pay pennies and get a key that likely will be authenticated. You may be lucky and it will work forever. But your luck may not last and since such licenses are not obtained through legitimate authorized sellers, you have no license agreement with Microsoft and therefore, Microsoft will not be obligated to support or re-authenticate/re-authorize your license.

Now those are the facts. Others may and likely will chime in with their opinions and anecdotal examples - but opinions and anecdotes don't change the facts.

Thank you for the explanation. But I tought also it could be opened package or broken from stealing in store and they resell to second party instead of having losses.

 

[Sasqui]

Thank you for the explanation. But I tought also it could be opened package or broken from stealing in store and they resell to second party instead of having losses.

A number of places, including enterprise or MSDN keys too. The enterprise ones are more common and that is outright theft.

From my understanding, a lot of the keys are from Win7 upgrades. IE - they sell you an old Win7 key and it works to install Win10. I could be wrong.

 

[Bill_Bright]

But I tought also it could be opened package or broken from stealing in store and they resell to second party instead of having losses.

Nope. First, I don't see how an opened package would or could play into this. There is no legitimate way a package could be opened and then only some of the contents be returned. Remember, consumers are not buying the software. They are buying the licenses to use it. And by continuing to use said software, we agree to the terms of the EULAs.

As for stealing - well, no where is it legal (or legitimate) to sell (or receive) stolen property - even if we don't know it is stolen. Caveat emptor ("let the buyer beware"). If you buy a stolen car or artwork, as examples, thinking it is totally legal and legit, you can have it confiscated by law enforcement and never get a penny back.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

It isn't illegal regardless of what the people will say on here, it might be against their EULA but I doubt that, either way it wasn't theft. Microsoft got their money when the key was issued. Another person resold it at a lower cost. M$ already made their money. Sometimes the keys are from other countries where the price is much lower but either way M$ got paid what they wanted for the key. Same can be said for Bulk Licence purchasing M$ got their money.

I am not a lawyer.

 

[E-Bear]

Nope. First, I don't see how an opened package would or could play into this. There is no legitimate way a package could be opened and then only some of the contents be returned. Remember, consumers are not buying the software. They are buying the licenses to use it. And by continuing to use said software, we agree to the terms of the EULAs.

As for stealing - well, no where is it legal (or legitimate) to sell (or receive) stolen property - even if we don't know it is stolen. Caveat emptor ("let the buyer beware"). If you buy a stolen car or artwork, as examples, thinking it is totally legal and legit, you can have it confiscated by law enforcement and never get a penny back.

Yeah you dont seem to understand before ranting full text so I will explain you in details my point of view. I was talking about opened or broken Windows 10 packages in stores like Walmart or any electronic stores. Could be broken by accident or somebody tried to steal it so its a loss for the store because they cant resell to customers when packaged goods are damaged. Its put on pallets of boxes and resold as bulk for refurbishers. Then it could be resold online just the key. Understood now I hope.

It isn't illegal regardless of what the people will say on here, it might be against their EULA but I doubt that, either way it wasn't theft. Microsoft got their money when the key was issued. Another person resold it at a lower cost. M$ already made their money. Sometimes the keys are from other countries where the price is much lower but either way M$ got paid what they wanted for the key. Same can be said for Bulk Licence purchasing M$ got their money.

I am not a lawyer.

Same principle as buying a laptop in hong kong and resell it abroad when back from travelling

 

[Splinterdog]

Hi.

Can you suggest me a safe and good place to buy and download Windows 10 home edition in french and in Canada ?


Also why these websites are selling licences cheaper than on microsoft website themselves ?

Thanks

Try digging out an old Windows 7 key that you may have lying around.
That's totally legit and a loophole that MS still hasn't closed yet. Sssh!

 

[E-Bear]

Try digging out an old Windows 7 key that you may have lying around.
That's totally legit and a loophole that MS still hasn't closed yet. Sssh!

Have many. Going to try

 

[newtekie1]

It isn't illegal regardless of what the people will say on here, it might be against their EULA but I doubt that, either way it wasn't theft. Microsoft got their money when the key was issued. Another person resold it at a lower cost. M$ already made their money. Sometimes the keys are from other countries where the price is much lower but either way M$ got paid what they wanted for the key. Same can be said for Bulk Licence purchasing M$ got their money.

I am not a lawyer.

That isn't exactly how it works with volume licencing keys. Microsoft only gets paid per device the key is used on, but the organization is responsible for auditing the number of devices. So, for instance, Microsoft will authorize 1000 activations on a key. The organization might only need 800 of those. So they pay Microsoft for 800 activations. But then someone decides to sell the key 200 times to make a little money on the side. Those activations aren't reported to Microsoft by the organizations so Microsoft is never paid for them.

Try digging out an old Windows 7 key that you may have lying around.
That's totally legit and a loophole that MS still hasn't closed yet. Sssh!

Not totally legit, but I still do it, so who am I to judge.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Yeah you dont seem to understand before ranting full text so I will explain you in details my point of view.

Explaining and answering your question is not a rant.

I was talking about opened or broken Windows 10 packages in stores like Walmart or any electronic stores.

Then it is unlikely those would involve unused portions of a volume license, now would they? Not to mention, pretty sure you cannot walk into Walmart or Best Buy and buy a 1000 key license "off-the-shelf". And AFAIK, volume licenses can only be purchased through Microsoft, or a Microsoft Partner. And when purchasing volume licenses, you have to register at that time, your company. At least that is how it was and I'm pretty sure that is still how it is.

It isn't illegal regardless of what the people will say on here

Please read what folks have said and are saying before making such comments. NOBODY SAID IT WAS ILLEGAL!

Same principle as buying a laptop in hong kong and resell it abroad when back from travelling

Ummm, no. That is not the same principle at all. When you buy a laptop, it comes with an OEM license that is tied to the hardware. It is perfectly legit and legal to sell it when you return from traveling. Now what would not be legit is to buy that laptop, travel and use it during your trip, then return it at the place of purchase for a full refund. That is where your "open package" scenario would come into play. The retailer would be stuck with a loss because they could not sell it as new again.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Please read what folks have said and are saying before making such comments. NOBODY SAID IT WAS ILLEGAL!

Ok no one did say it was illegal. But people are trying to make it sound like something bad will happen. Or M$ will come for you. Which it isn't, and they won't. Just to let you know Legit = Legitimate and legitimates literal definition is..."conforming to the law or to rules." But no laws are being broken just useless and seemingly unenforceable EULA's.

 

[Bill_Bright]

But people are trying to make it sound like something bad will happen. Or M$ will come for you.

No they aren't. You are trying to read something into something NEVER said. The sky is not falling. At worst, all anybody here said is that your (if using one of those) copy of Windows may need to be re-authorized at some point and that it may not get re-authorized. NOBODY said anything "bad" will happen or that Microsoft will come after you.

Just to let you know Legit = Legitimate.

Why do you keep twisting what was said around? Do we need to start looking at tin futures again?

I said, not illegal ≠ Legitimate. Nobody ever said legit does not = legitimate.

And you are right about the definition of legitimate. But please understand what YOU are saying. Rules do NOT have to be laws. They can also be terms of an agreement, or just an accepted standard. Or as YOU noted, a simple "rule".

So once again, no matter how hard you want it to seem we are talking about "legality", none of us have suggested or even implied that.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

Ok, then we agree. It is 100% okay to purchase windows 10 keys for less than retail. In which case there are plenty of sources to choose from. G2A is a pretty good one.

I would stop arguing with you but.... I'm JUST

 

[jlewis02]

Just use the key from windows 7.