Need help for upgrade my PC

[ardyn-]

So last year, I upgraded my CPU but not my VGA so in this one I may ask about VGA or maybe with Procie so there's no bottleneck or something, and I'm using my PC for gaming such as Apex Legends, Star Wars Fallen Order, Sea of Thieves, and you know other games nowadays that I want to try. I asked my friend that RTX 3060/ti and RX 5600/5700 XT is a great deal for my CPU. Planning upgrade this PC next month, price around $700-800 (and yeah I'm gonna sell my old parts too). Thank you!

Here's my spec:
i5-9400f
Sapphire Nitro RX 570 4GB
RAM 2x8GB 2666MHz
Motherboard Gigabyte H370M DS3H
PSU be quiet PURE POWER 11 600W CM - 80 Plus Gold
SSD Seagate 240GB and 1TB HDD

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144531
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $139.99

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https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-12400f-core-i5-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118360
Intel Core i5-12400F $179.97

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Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 CPU Cooler $30.00

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Thermalright LGA 1700-SS2 Mounting Kit $8.69

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0143UM4TC/

Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $69.99

Total: $428 USD

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[eidairaman1]

The cpu is plenty

, overclock the ram and find a RX 5700XT or 6600, 6600XT, 6700...

 

[Icon Charlie]

The cpu is plenty

, overclock the ram and find a RX 5700XT or 6600, 6600XT, 6700...

Also the plain o' AMD 5700 if you can find them. It seems they are harder to find and I think I know why. I undervolted and under clocked mine. At 8% of an underclock I'm using 130 watts max when I'm playing video games.

But I do agree with what you are saying as well

 

[eidairaman1]

Also the plain o' AMD 5700 if you can find them. It seems they are harder to find and I think I know why. I undervolted and under clocked mine. At 8% of an underclock I'm using 130 watts max when I'm playing video games.

But I do agree with what you are saying as well

Yup, even in right Hands a Vega can perform

 

[Cowboystrekk]

The cpu is plenty

, overclock the ram and find a RX 5700XT or 6600, 6600XT, 6700...

His MB only supports 2666 ram, he can tweak timings, but there is limited potential. I just sold my i5 8400 (very similar to 9400f) which I ran with tweaked 2666cl12 ram, it performed okay, but the new 12400F with tweaked 3600cl15 (same ram sticks), is 50% faster in some games (SOTTR).

Since ram is running at 2666 you can subtract 10% performance from 9400F. A 12400F running stock will on average be atleast 25% faster. in Cyberpunk the 8400 limited a 3060ti running DLSS with quite a margin on my setup (80-100fps vs 120-140), GPU utilization was often in the low 80%.

 

[eidairaman1]

His MB only supports 2666 ram, he can tweak timings, but there is limited potential. I just sold my i5 8400 (very similar to 9400f) which I ran with tweaked 2666cl12 ram, it performed okay, but the new 12400F with tweaked 3600cl15 (same ram sticks), is 50% faster in some games (SOTTR).

Since ram is running at 2666 you can subtract 10% performance from 9400F. A 12400F running stock will on average be atleast 25% faster. in Cyberpunk the 8400 limited a 3060ti running DLSS with quite a margin on my setup (80-100fps vs 120-140), GPU utilization was often in the low 80%.

Are uou saying he cant up it to 3200 at least?

 

[ThrashZone]

Are uou saying he cant up it to 3200 at least?

Hi,
2666 depending on exact memory kit c16 example usually can only dependably go 2800
If a c15 kit or lower can go higher but c16 is a mess.

 

[Cowboystrekk]

Are uou saying he cant up it to 3200 at least?

H370 is locked at 2666, only Z390 can go over 2666. The first gen where you could oc ram above CPU spec was B560/H570.

 

[ardyn-]

His MB only supports 2666 ram, he can tweak timings, but there is limited potential. I just sold my i5 8400 (very similar to 9400f) which I ran with tweaked 2666cl12 ram, it performed okay, but the new 12400F with tweaked 3600cl15 (same ram sticks), is 50% faster in some games (SOTTR).

Since ram is running at 2666 you can subtract 10% performance from 9400F. A 12400F running stock will on average be atleast 25% faster. in Cyberpunk the 8400 limited a 3060ti running DLSS with quite a margin on my setup (80-100fps vs 120-140), GPU utilization was often in the low 80%.

Thank you for this, and everyone, really appreciated. The first reply gave a very details price, name and I’ll look it up later. I think I need to saving my money for next month, sell my parts first, but what is the best option for VGA & Proc for my current specification?

I’m focused on VGA because the price is down in my country so that’s why, but still if I have more money I’ll upgrade my other parts too.

 

[Cowboystrekk]

Thank you for this, and everyone, really appreciated. The first reply gave a very details price, name and I’ll look it up later. I think I need to saving my money for next month, sell my parts first, but what is the best option for VGA & Proc for my current specification?

I’m focused on VGA because the price is down in my country so that’s why, but still if I have more money I’ll upgrade my other parts too.

If you only can afford vga now buy that, tweak you ram if you want 10-15% more cpu performance If you can find 3060ti for a good price buy that, it's much faster than all the other cards mentioned.

 

[Valantar]

The GPU is clearly the most (only?) needed upgrade, so start there. My recommendation: upgrade your GPU, see what that does for you. If you're happy, leave it alone. However much money you'll be able to scrape together for the rest of the system, it'll be worth more in a year or even two - and you'll have more time to save up too. That cpu still has some life left in it even if there are clearly faster options today. Remember that those comparison benchmarks were with a 3090, and a slower GPU will show less difference between CPUs.

 

[Cowboystrekk]

The GPU is clearly the most (only?) needed upgrade, so start there. My recommendation: upgrade your GPU, see what that does for you. If you're happy, leave it alone. However much money you'll be able to scrape together for the rest of the system, it'll be worth more in a year or even two - and you'll have more time to save up too. That cpu still has some life left in it even if there are clearly faster options today. Remember that those comparison benchmarks were with a 3090, and a slower GPU will show less difference between CPUs.

In most scenarios yes, but now that DLSS and FSR is becoming mainstream a CPU/ramspeed will become more important again. As I wrote earlier using DLSS 1080p Cyberpunk I got around 90fps avg vs 130fps going from tuned i5 8400 2666cl12 to 12400F 3600cl15. Is it worth it for treadstarter is a different question, depends on his monitor etc If he uses a 60-75Hz 9400F is more than enough, if he has 120Hz+ CPU will bottleneck a 3060ti in several games, especially in 1080p/DLSS.

 

[Valantar]

In most scenarios yes, but now that DLSS and FSR is becoming mainstream a CPU/ramspeed will become more important again. As I wrote earlier using DLSS 1080p Cyberpunk I got around 90fps avg vs 130fps going from tuned i5 8400 2666cl12 to 12400F 3600cl15. Is it worth it for treadstarter is a different question, depends on his monitor etc If he uses a 60-75Hz 9400F is more than enough, if he has 120Hz+ CPU will bottleneck a 3060ti in several games, especially in 1080p/DLSS.

That's absolutely true - but even with this in mind, I would still recommend first upgrading the GPU before deciding if anything else needs to be replaced as well. If anything, the OP will have a better setup for longer by waiting for another generation of CPUs. It's not like 90fps in a relatively MT-heavy game is anything to scoff at, after all (and arguably there isn't much of a difference between 90 and 130fps in a relatively slow-paced game like CP2077 - it's hardly a twitch shooter where responsiveness is king. Going by display refresh rate is definitely a smart thing to do though, as if they're stuck at 60-75Hz they have no need for an upgrade at all for a while yet (and would be better off spending that money on a monitor upgrade).