• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

Need help with choosing SSD

Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
1,155 (0.47/day)
Likes
466
System Name Desktop
Processor Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X79
Cooling Intel AIO
Memory 8x4GB 1866MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC
Storage Adaptec 2405 SAS controller> Hitachi SAS 15k 450GB|2xSeagate 2TB|WD Black 4 TB|HP Ultrium 1760 LTO4
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Fractal Define XL Black
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi Uber>Schiit Asgard 2>Sennheiser HD600
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
#1
Ok I never really payed much attention on SSD but I decided I want to try it out with my laptop.
The laptop is an HP 8560W and it supports SATA 3 speeds, primarily I'm looking for a reliable drive (as fast as possible of course but if it doesn't work, speeds mean nothing).
I prefer the 120GB/128GB drives, 64GB wouldn't be enough and over 120GB is just too expensive.
So what would everyone recommend I should get? I myself have been leaning towards the Crucial M4 128GB, but I still haven't decided.
Other options are: Corsair F3 120GB, Patriot Pyro 120 GB, and the Vertex 3 drives but I heard horrible things about them, and as last I thought of the Intel 520 120GB which is slightly more expensive but I wouldn't mind if it's better than the M4.

Greatly appreciate any help/recommendation.
 

Athlon2K15

HyperVtX™
Joined
Sep 27, 2006
Messages
7,848 (1.91/day)
Likes
2,305
Location
O-H-I-O
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 1800x
Motherboard Asus Crosshair VI Hero
Cooling CH6 EK MonoBlock
Memory TridentZ 16GB DDR4 3600
Video Card(s) GTX 1080Ti EK Full Cover Block
Storage Samsung 960 Pro
Display(s) LG 34UC88 Curved Ultrawide
Case EVGA DG86
Power Supply Corsair RM850x
Mouse Asus Strix Evolve
Keyboard Asus Strix Claymore
#2
cant say no to the m4,its a great drive the vertex 3 and performance pro are also good
 
Joined
Mar 13, 2012
Messages
391 (0.19/day)
Likes
90
Location
USA
#3
I personally would say you'd be best off with the Patriot Pyro. Seeing as you might get an American made drive and it is twice as fast as an M4.
The sandforce controllers are nice and fast.
 

Athlon2K15

HyperVtX™
Joined
Sep 27, 2006
Messages
7,848 (1.91/day)
Likes
2,305
Location
O-H-I-O
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 1800x
Motherboard Asus Crosshair VI Hero
Cooling CH6 EK MonoBlock
Memory TridentZ 16GB DDR4 3600
Video Card(s) GTX 1080Ti EK Full Cover Block
Storage Samsung 960 Pro
Display(s) LG 34UC88 Curved Ultrawide
Case EVGA DG86
Power Supply Corsair RM850x
Mouse Asus Strix Evolve
Keyboard Asus Strix Claymore
#4
The Pyro would be better if it used synchronous NAND. Instead it uses cheap Asynchronous.
 
Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
1,155 (0.47/day)
Likes
466
System Name Desktop
Processor Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X79
Cooling Intel AIO
Memory 8x4GB 1866MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC
Storage Adaptec 2405 SAS controller> Hitachi SAS 15k 450GB|2xSeagate 2TB|WD Black 4 TB|HP Ultrium 1760 LTO4
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Fractal Define XL Black
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi Uber>Schiit Asgard 2>Sennheiser HD600
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
#5
Thank you for the input so far, still wondering if the Intel 520 is better/more reliable than others.
 

manofthem

WCG-TPU Team All-Star!
Joined
Jan 9, 2011
Messages
10,727 (4.23/day)
Likes
26,177
Location
Florida
System Name bBox | tOffice | mDonk
Processor i7 4770k @4.3 | i7 2600k @3.5 | i7 4790 @3.8
Motherboard MSI Z87 G45 | MSI Z68 GD55 | MSI H97M G43
Cooling Water | Reeven Justice RC-1204 | can't remember
Memory G Skill TridentX 8GB 2400 | Patriot Viper 3 8GB 1600 | G Skill Ripjaws 8GB 1600
Video Card(s) 2x R9 290's | 980 SC ACX2.0 | n/a
Storage 850 Evo 250GB & 2TB Desktar 5K3000 | 830 256GB & 1.5TB & 3TB Barracudas| 830 256GB
Display(s) QNIX WX2710 (96Hz OC) & Shimian Achieva QH270-Lite | Acer 27HL | n/a
Case 900D | Fractal Define S | n/a
Audio Device(s) Siberia v2 | onboard | n/a
Power Supply Corsair AX1200 | XFX 550Pro | SeaSonic 660XP2
Mouse Razer Mamba 2012 | Corsair M95 | n/a
Keyboard Das Keyboard Pro 4 (blues) | Cougar Attack X3 (blues) | n/a
Software Win 10 Pro x64 | Win 10 Pro x64 | Win 10 Pro x64
#6
The Pyro would be better if it used synchronous NAND. Instead it uses cheap Asynchronous.
The Pyro SE uses synchronous NAND, $180 on Newegg, $140 after MIR.

But after reading several reports of SF drives losing speed over time and after reading the great Samsung reviews, I went with the Samsung 830. The 128gb Samsung is pretty awesome!
SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128D/AM 2.5" 128GB SATA I...

Edit: that link is for the desktop version which has a few software, 3.5 adapter, and maybe the batman game.
 
Last edited:

manofthem

WCG-TPU Team All-Star!
Joined
Jan 9, 2011
Messages
10,727 (4.23/day)
Likes
26,177
Location
Florida
System Name bBox | tOffice | mDonk
Processor i7 4770k @4.3 | i7 2600k @3.5 | i7 4790 @3.8
Motherboard MSI Z87 G45 | MSI Z68 GD55 | MSI H97M G43
Cooling Water | Reeven Justice RC-1204 | can't remember
Memory G Skill TridentX 8GB 2400 | Patriot Viper 3 8GB 1600 | G Skill Ripjaws 8GB 1600
Video Card(s) 2x R9 290's | 980 SC ACX2.0 | n/a
Storage 850 Evo 250GB & 2TB Desktar 5K3000 | 830 256GB & 1.5TB & 3TB Barracudas| 830 256GB
Display(s) QNIX WX2710 (96Hz OC) & Shimian Achieva QH270-Lite | Acer 27HL | n/a
Case 900D | Fractal Define S | n/a
Audio Device(s) Siberia v2 | onboard | n/a
Power Supply Corsair AX1200 | XFX 550Pro | SeaSonic 660XP2
Mouse Razer Mamba 2012 | Corsair M95 | n/a
Keyboard Das Keyboard Pro 4 (blues) | Cougar Attack X3 (blues) | n/a
Software Win 10 Pro x64 | Win 10 Pro x64 | Win 10 Pro x64
#8
It is, but I haven't read that on the SF drives. Link I could read? I'm intrigued.
And yes, the pyro SE does use synchronous.
I found them in forums posts, not official reviews. The one I remember where (1 out of the 3 I believe I saw) was in this thread post 24
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1674863&page=2

If I stumble across others, I'll throw the link up. That thread encouraged me to get the 830.
 

Athlon2K15

HyperVtX™
Joined
Sep 27, 2006
Messages
7,848 (1.91/day)
Likes
2,305
Location
O-H-I-O
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 1800x
Motherboard Asus Crosshair VI Hero
Cooling CH6 EK MonoBlock
Memory TridentZ 16GB DDR4 3600
Video Card(s) GTX 1080Ti EK Full Cover Block
Storage Samsung 960 Pro
Display(s) LG 34UC88 Curved Ultrawide
Case EVGA DG86
Power Supply Corsair RM850x
Mouse Asus Strix Evolve
Keyboard Asus Strix Claymore
#9
Since your using this as your OS drive pay attention to the 50% fill numbers. Its the only thing that matters.As you can see the Vertex 3 will give you the most performance after you have data on the drive. :)

Yes the Samsung is a nice drive and if your a ssd techy like me you'll get the chance to play with 20nm toggle flash and samsung own 3 core arm controller. but i would just take the vertex 3 and run with it.

If you want the fastest drive available get the Sandisk Extreme.



 
Last edited:
Joined
Mar 10, 2012
Messages
27 (0.01/day)
Likes
7
#10
I personally would say you'd be best off with the Patriot Pyro. Seeing as you might get an American made drive and it is twice as fast as an M4.
The sandforce controllers are nice and fast.
I was actually, going to say; The Patriot Sandforce Controllers (SATA3 Pyro SSD)

While, quite fast.. Their not performing, at full transfer rates (Windows 7) & need to be Defragged a lot etc.. (OS Drive)

Updating the firmware, is a bit of a pain too.. Because, Windows 7, uses a standard driver, for all drives..

Plus, I added a 2TB WD Caviar Green HDD (as a secondary) & It Slows down the system even more..

OCZ, do SSDs for Apple.. I think.. They Manufacture, compatible RAM, for MacPros etc 64GB Kit.. :p
 

manofthem

WCG-TPU Team All-Star!
Joined
Jan 9, 2011
Messages
10,727 (4.23/day)
Likes
26,177
Location
Florida
System Name bBox | tOffice | mDonk
Processor i7 4770k @4.3 | i7 2600k @3.5 | i7 4790 @3.8
Motherboard MSI Z87 G45 | MSI Z68 GD55 | MSI H97M G43
Cooling Water | Reeven Justice RC-1204 | can't remember
Memory G Skill TridentX 8GB 2400 | Patriot Viper 3 8GB 1600 | G Skill Ripjaws 8GB 1600
Video Card(s) 2x R9 290's | 980 SC ACX2.0 | n/a
Storage 850 Evo 250GB & 2TB Desktar 5K3000 | 830 256GB & 1.5TB & 3TB Barracudas| 830 256GB
Display(s) QNIX WX2710 (96Hz OC) & Shimian Achieva QH270-Lite | Acer 27HL | n/a
Case 900D | Fractal Define S | n/a
Audio Device(s) Siberia v2 | onboard | n/a
Power Supply Corsair AX1200 | XFX 550Pro | SeaSonic 660XP2
Mouse Razer Mamba 2012 | Corsair M95 | n/a
Keyboard Das Keyboard Pro 4 (blues) | Cougar Attack X3 (blues) | n/a
Software Win 10 Pro x64 | Win 10 Pro x64 | Win 10 Pro x64
#11
I was actually, going to say; The Patriot Sandforce Controllers (SATA3 Pyro SSD)

While, quite fast.. Their not performing, at full transfer rates (Windows 7) & need to be Defragged a lot etc.. (OS Drive)
Who defrags an ssd?
 
Joined
Mar 13, 2012
Messages
391 (0.19/day)
Likes
90
Location
USA
#12
I was actually, going to say; The Patriot Sandforce Controllers (SATA3 Pyro SSD)

While, quite fast.. Their not performing, at full transfer rates (Windows 7) & need to be Defragged a lot etc.. (OS Drive)

Updating the firmware, is a bit of a pain too.. Because, Windows 7, uses a standard driver, for all drives..

Plus, I added a 2TB WD Caviar Green HDD (as a secondary) & It Slows down the system even more..

OCZ, do SSDs for Apple.. I think.. They Manufacture, compatible RAM, for MacPros etc 64GB Kit.. :p
Why would you defrag an SSD, you do know defraging SSDs shortens their life, right?
 
Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
1,155 (0.47/day)
Likes
466
System Name Desktop
Processor Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X79
Cooling Intel AIO
Memory 8x4GB 1866MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC
Storage Adaptec 2405 SAS controller> Hitachi SAS 15k 450GB|2xSeagate 2TB|WD Black 4 TB|HP Ultrium 1760 LTO4
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Fractal Define XL Black
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi Uber>Schiit Asgard 2>Sennheiser HD600
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
#13
but i would just take the vertex 3 and run with it.
I'm not sure, I heard a lot of complaints about their reliability (yes I know that all drives can/will fail). I don't think I will notice such small difference between the drives when they are almost full, or would I?
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
12,374 (2.56/day)
Likes
5,819
Location
Europe\Slovenia
System Name Dark Silence 2
Processor Intel Core i7 5820K @ 4.5 GHz (1.15V)
Motherboard MSI X99A Gaming 7
Cooling Cooler Master Nepton 120XL
Memory 32 GB DDR4 Kingston HyperX Fury 2400 MHz @ 2666 MHz
Video Card(s) AORUS GeForce GTX 1080Ti 11GB (1950/11000 OC Mode)
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 2TB SSD (3D V-NAND)
Display(s) ASUS VG248QE 144Hz 1ms (DisplayPort)
Case Corsair Carbide 330R Titanium
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 + Altec Lansing MX5021 (HiFi capacitors and OPAMP upgrade)
Power Supply BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 750W
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum
Keyboard Cherry Stream XT Black
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Fall Creators Update)
#16
Samsung 830 or Crucial M4. If you're looking for cheap SandForce drive, A-DATA has some ridiculously low priced ones. And OCZ's Agility 3 as well.
 
Joined
Feb 29, 2012
Messages
143 (0.07/day)
Likes
79
Location
Germany
System Name Blackbox
Processor Core i7-2600k @ 4.8
Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance
Cooling Thermalright Macho Rev.A
Memory 32GB Crucial Ballistix Sport VLP DDR3-1600
Video Card(s) KFA² (Galax) GTX970 EXOC Black Edition
Storage Bunch of 1-2TB WD RE4 + WD Red
Display(s) Samsung Syncmaster 2333T
Case Fractal Design Arc Midi
Power Supply Seasonic S12 II 430
Mouse Logitech MX518 Refresh
Keyboard Tesoro Colada G3NL (MX Brown)
Software Win7 Ultimate
#17
It is, but I haven't read that on the SF drives. Link I could read? I'm intrigued.
Lifetime Throttling (or LTT) is the keyword. The firmware limits/cripples the speeds to make the SSDs survive the warranty period.

Only on Sandforce. Main reason I'll stay far away from any of them.
 

manofthem

WCG-TPU Team All-Star!
Joined
Jan 9, 2011
Messages
10,727 (4.23/day)
Likes
26,177
Location
Florida
System Name bBox | tOffice | mDonk
Processor i7 4770k @4.3 | i7 2600k @3.5 | i7 4790 @3.8
Motherboard MSI Z87 G45 | MSI Z68 GD55 | MSI H97M G43
Cooling Water | Reeven Justice RC-1204 | can't remember
Memory G Skill TridentX 8GB 2400 | Patriot Viper 3 8GB 1600 | G Skill Ripjaws 8GB 1600
Video Card(s) 2x R9 290's | 980 SC ACX2.0 | n/a
Storage 850 Evo 250GB & 2TB Desktar 5K3000 | 830 256GB & 1.5TB & 3TB Barracudas| 830 256GB
Display(s) QNIX WX2710 (96Hz OC) & Shimian Achieva QH270-Lite | Acer 27HL | n/a
Case 900D | Fractal Define S | n/a
Audio Device(s) Siberia v2 | onboard | n/a
Power Supply Corsair AX1200 | XFX 550Pro | SeaSonic 660XP2
Mouse Razer Mamba 2012 | Corsair M95 | n/a
Keyboard Das Keyboard Pro 4 (blues) | Cougar Attack X3 (blues) | n/a
Software Win 10 Pro x64 | Win 10 Pro x64 | Win 10 Pro x64
#18
Joined
Feb 24, 2009
Messages
2,245 (0.70/day)
Likes
1,331
Location
Riverside, California
System Name Red Monster
Processor Intel Core i7 7800X @ 4.7GHz
Motherboard MSI X299 Gaming M7 ACK
Cooling Corsair Hydro Series H115i 280mm
Memory Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB DDR4 3466
Video Card(s) evga GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 iCX
Storage Intel 535 Series 2.5" 480GB SATA /WD Blue 1TB SSD /Radeon R7 240GB SSD /1TB, & 4TB HHD
Display(s) Samsung UN55KS8500 55" 4K & Oculus Rift CV1
Case Corsair Carbide Series Air 540
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster ZX > Pagoda DAC > multiple amps
Power Supply Corsair HX1000i
Mouse Logitech G600
Keyboard Corsair K70 Cherri MX
Software Windows 10
#19
Thank you for the input so far, still wondering if the Intel 520 is better/more reliable than others.
It is. Intel make the most reliable SSD's. Not the fastest though but giving up a bit of speed for a reliable drive is okay in my book.