for those of us who do install the wickedly evil .NET structures, the programs that use them are always playing russian roulette when it comes time for MS to sneak in those updates via Microsoft Update . . . I'm sure I'm not the only one who has had a .NET framework updated, and then had a handful of programs that refused to initialize after the update . . . what's even more aggrevating is the fact that the .NET updates CAN NOT be removed from WIN, and reverting to an earlier system restore point is fruitless as well. Ran across this: dotnetFX cleanup utility wnderful little utility that cleans up the .net frameworks! I've successfully been able to run "killed" applications after using this tool. Note, though, for these applications that require a version of the .NET framework, they'll still require that version to be re-installed. Just avoid the updates.