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CPU|Intel i3 530 (Stock)| i5 2500 |£156|Wanting a fairly decent quad core
Motherboard|Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H| Intel DH67BL B3 |£75|I don't over clock so those extra options are pointless, it's the layout that bothers me.
Graphics|PowerColor 4850 PCS+ Edition 512MB| PowerColor HD 6850 SCS3 Silent 1GB GDDR5 |£148|It's got to be as near to silent as it can be
RAM| 2GB Corsair Ballistix| Kingston 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz |£38|Would like to bump up to at least 4GB, maybe up to 8GB
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SSD| N/A | Crucial 128GB M4 |£170|Used as a boot drive with the basic programs, around 60GB
Sound Card|Xonar D2/PM|?|?|Probably stick with this one
PSU| Corsair HX 520W|?|?|Should be able to stick...?
TOTAL: £587


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CPU|Intel i3 530 (Stock)| Phenom II X4 840 |£76|Wanting a fairly decent quad core, and then will migrate to bulldozer
Motherboard|Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H| Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 |£92|I don't over clock so those extra options are pointless, it's the layout that bothers me.
Graphics|PowerColor 4850 PCS+ Edition 512MB| PowerColor HD 6850 SCS3 Silent 1GB GDDR5 |£148|It's got to be as near to silent as it can be
RAM| 2GB Corsair Ballistix| Kingston 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz |£38|Would like to bump up to at least 4GB, maybe up to 8GB
CPU Cooling|Scythe Zipang II|?|?|Quieter the better, for guidance this one is only 30dBA, find quieter and you're a winner
Hard Drives| WD 6401AALS 640GB// WD 1TB Green |N/A|N/A|Most likely stay with both drives
SSD| N/A | Crucial 128GB M4 |£170|Used as a boot drive with the basic programs, around 60GB
Sound Card|Xonar D2/PM|?|?|Probably stick with this one
PSU| Corsair HX 520W|?|?|Should be able to stick...?
Total: £524

I am going to use this to game a fair bit, but I really don't care for OMG graphics, or OMG frame rate. If it can play Metro 2033 and newer titles like Skyrim and Battlefield i'll be happy.

Just to note again I do not overclock, i've just never felt comfortable doing it and yea, numbers in a bench aren't important to me.

Finally I want this to be SILENT, not quiet but damn near SILENT as it can possibly go. Hence the passive GPU, I would love to be able to keep it on whilst watching a film and not even know the computer is on.

Budget around £500 (excluding the funds raised from selling this build, say around £150), for now. So any ideas?
 
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2100T + passive heatsink. Whatever motherboard which fits your budget and your needs, H61 etc. Ram, any 1600Mhz kit will do, you don't need higher or better latency according to most reviews. Carry on the PSU?
 
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2100T + passive heatsink. Whatever motherboard which fits your budget and your needs, H61 etc. Ram, any 1600Mhz kit will do, you don't need higher or better latency according to most reviews. Carry on the PSU?

No reason to get higher than a 2100T? Hell if that's the case should I just stick with this one?
 

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You can always get the 2500K, I personally have a soft spot for the 2100T >.>

Edit: Why 2500K, you might ask. Obviously it keeps its resale value. The price difference between the 2300 and the 2500K is a mere £25, and I can guarantee you that the 2500k will hold its value much better than the 2300, given that most people who shop for chips are enthusiasts looking to overclock.

Edit 2: Why bother to upgrade the CPU and chipset anyway, when you will only gain 10-20% more framerate, which is more or less unnoticeable. Just upgrade your RAM and graphics, throw in a new SSD and call it a day?
 
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You can always get the 2500K, I personally have a soft spot for the 2100T >.>

Edit: Why 2500K, you might ask. Obviously it keeps its resale value. The price difference between the 2300 and the 2500K is a mere £25, and I can guarantee you that the 2500k will hold its value much better than the 2300, given that most people who shop for chips are enthusiasts looking to overclock.

I was just about to ask that indeed. Though that is a valid point, I don't think I'll going for resale value, hopefully it'll last me a year, and I'm happy with that.

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Well finding a motherboard that has an Ethernet port and a SATA port on the rear I/O panel, with enough space to fit a triple slot GPU and the PCI-e sound card is REALLY hard!
 
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I was just about to ask that indeed. Though that is a valid point, I don't think I'll going for resale value, hopefully it'll last me a year, and I'm happy with that.

Updated OP

You will eventually come to a point where you will be posting another thread just like this one and trying to get additional funds for your next rig upgrade. It's a good point in investing in something that is a tiny bit more, but when 3 years down the road comes, will be able to rake in a whole lot more vs a non-k derivative.
 

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I would go with a 6870+ minimum. I know you said you don't want OMG graphics or framerate, but the 6850 will disappoint you as far as the high end DX11 titles in 1080p. If you are playing at low res, then no problem. Otherwise, go with a 6950 1gb or 2gb. If you're upgrading now at least go cayman. The 6800 series are slightly old tech.
 
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I would also recommend downgrading the amount of RAM to 2x2GB instead of 2x4GB. I'd recommend getting 1 of the DDR3 1600 Gskill Ripjaws. It saves you about £7 - £8 more so you could stretch your money a little on the more important things like the choice of GPU. I would have to agree with LordJummy in regards to the 6870. It seems like the perfect GPU for what games you plan on playing at decent settings and resolutions.
I recommend getting this 6870 because the Vapor-X cooler is pretty good at cooling, so you probably will need to manually set the fan to the lowest level so you can't hear it and you should be fine.
Here it is: Sapphire HD 6870 Vapor-X 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI D...
Comes out to £164.99, but if you shave off the RAM like I said, the difference comes out to about £157.99 if your willing to spend the extra :)
 
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Edit 2: Why bother to upgrade the CPU and chipset anyway, when you will only gain 10-20% more framerate, which is more or less unnoticeable. Just upgrade your RAM and graphics, throw in a new SSD and call it a day?

I absolutely despise the layout on this board, and to have a GPU on top of my sound card means the heat doesn't go anywhere but around the card. (The cooling is a fan/heatsink combo that doesn't allow the hot air to escape via the rear vent.) If the new card does vent through the rear then I guess I wont have much of a problem. Though I don't see the i3 being able to fair on the modern games. (oh and I also play SupCom alot still and that bends CPUs over and takes them to brown town)

I would go with a 6870+ minimum. I know you said you don't want OMG graphics or framerate, but the 6850 will disappoint you as far as the high end DX11 titles in 1080p. If you are playing at low res, then no problem. Otherwise, go with a 6950 1gb or 2gb. If you're upgrading now at least go cayman. The 6800 series are slightly old tech.

I game at 1680x1050, so I don't think I would benefit much from getting the bigger card.

I would also recommend downgrading the amount of RAM to 2x2GB instead of 2x4GB. I'd recommend getting 1 of the DDR3 1600 Gskill Ripjaws. It saves you about £7 - £8 more so you could stretch your money a little on the more important things like the choice of GPU. I would have to agree with LordJummy in regards to the 6870. It seems like the perfect GPU for what games you plan on playing at decent settings and resolutions.
I recommend getting this 6870 because the Vapor-X cooler is pretty good at cooling, so you probably will need to manually set the fan to the lowest level so you can't hear it and you should be fine.
Here it is: Sapphire HD 6870 Vapor-X 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI D...
Comes out to £164.99, but if you shave off the RAM like I said, the difference comes out to about £157.99 if your willing to spend the extra :)

I may drop the RAM to 4GB, this is just at idea stage for the time being. Though thanks for the card idea, i'll do a bit of research on it.
 
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A quiet computer starts with a quiet case - Here are the Antec North America offerings. Tried to find a similar section for the UK but that site is organized differently.

http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?Per=NA==

For example, my P180 cases have rubber bushings for mounting the harddrives to eliminate vibration and resonance.

I like the selection you have listed except I would probably go with the 2600k. 6850 is an excellent choice since it only draws about 120w under heavy load so there is less heat to dissipate and that should mean a quieter user experience.

Finally, check out this site for more quiet computing ideas - endpcnoise
 
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That's a good idea on the rubber support for the case, I'll definitely look into that.

Any points on the SSD?
 
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Just an idea:
Why not wait until LGA2011 comes out? The price for LGA1155 will be be lower, plus you have an option about buying LGA2011
 

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Just friendly advice:
Go down a notch to the i5 2400 (reports of ~3.9Ghz Overclock) and pickup a little bit better board with the funds. You can do the overclock on stock cooling also as it will require either no bump in core volts or so minute it wont effect temperatures.
 
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Just an idea:
Why not wait until LGA2011 comes out? The price for LGA1155 will be be lower, plus you have an option about buying LGA2011

This wont be being built until the end of September, hopefully intel will do a price drop on these once Bulldozer comes out. And perhaps I'll see something in the AMD market, though I've not really looked.

Just friendly advice:
Go down a notch to the i5 2400 (reports of ~3.9Ghz Overclock) and pickup a little bit better board with the funds. You can do the overclock on stock cooling also as it will require either no bump in core volts or so minute it wont effect temperatures.

If I can get it all even for the cost I may do that.
 

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This wont be being built until the end of September, hopefully intel will do a price drop on these once Bulldozer comes out. And perhaps I'll see something in the AMD market, though I've not really looked.



If I can get it all even for the cost I may do that.

Another thought could be to scrap the whole idea and pickup i5 7x0 or Xeon x3440, if you feel cheap and dont want to move away from your current board. What I am trying to understand though, 4Ghz is easy on an i3 530 and I have done it myself on stock cooling. On those chips it's more the voltages than the temps that kill them.

EDIT:

Wow! Take a look at this Lotus

~20 pounds more with a better board and offering easy overclocking. Head to this page and see if the deal will load for you
Asrock P67 PRO Socket 1155 8 Channel HD Audio ATX....
Even the board would be perfect for you. Z68 also muight be a bonus as it the chipset is designed even more with SSD in mind over P67 /H6x.
 
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Why not a thuban - X6 3.3, 3.7boost AM3 on a 990 AM3+ board.

e.g., GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB...
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz...

It's about the same money and you would have the option to upgrade to bulldozer.

If I could thank you more than once I would. That looks like an excellent option, especially since I can just drop in a newer and (hopefully) much better CPU down the line without having to piss about too much. In fact I like it so much I'm going to go for that over the Intel choice.

Also the board layout is pretty damn nice.

Another thought could be to scrap the whole idea and pickup i5 7x0 or Xeon x3440, if you feel cheap and dont want to move away from your current board. What I am trying to understand though, 4Ghz is easy on an i3 530 and I have done it myself on stock cooling. On those chips it's more the voltages than the temps that kill them.

EDIT:

Wow! Take a look at this Lotus
http://img.techpowerup.org/110804/Capture081.jpg
~20 pounds more with a better board and offering easy overclocking. Head to this page and see if the deal will load for you
Asrock P67 PRO Socket 1155 8 Channel HD Audio ATX....
Even the board would be perfect for you. Z68 also muight be a bonus as it the chipset is designed even more with SSD in mind over P67 /H6x.

I think if I was to be honest, I would say that I am way too much of a pussy to overclock. :eek:
 

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If I could thank you more than once I would. That looks like an excellent option, especially since I can just drop in a newer and (hopefully) much better CPU down the line without having to piss about too much. In fact I like it so much I'm going to go for that over the Intel choice.

Also the board layout is pretty damn nice.



I think if I was to be honest, I would say that I am way too much of a pussy to overclock. :eek:

Not a problem! I know overclocking is not for everyone, but at least a K/Black edition will give you ease of overclocking in the future :)
Here's your board
Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 AM3 7.1 Channel HD Audio ATX...

& I would drop down to the 1090T just to save a few
AMD Phenom II X6 Black Edition 1090T 3.2GHz Socket...

Although that comes back to the OP, you may want to go the 6 core nothing less if going AMD *(unless bulldozer is a definite), in daily use the i3 530 is as fast as the Athlon II quads and just a tad slower than an AMD Phenom II quad. *If bulldozer is definite, go Athlon II quad while saving and wait it out for about a month and a half.
 
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Not a problem! I know overclocking is not for everyone, but at least a K/Black edition will give you ease of overclocking in the future :)
Here's your board
Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 AM3 7.1 Channel HD Audio ATX...

& I would drop down to the 1090T just to save a few
AMD Phenom II X6 Black Edition 1090T 3.2GHz Socket...

Although that comes back to the OP, you may want to go the 6 core nothing less if going AMD *(unless bulldozer is a definite), in daily use the i3 530 is as fast as the Athlon II quads and just a tad slower than an AMD Phenom II quad. *If bulldozer is definite, go Athlon II quad while saving and wait it out for about a month and a half.

Yup that is what I think I will do. I'll drop down to a X4 840, save up a bit and then go get a higher CPU around the first lot of price cuts when Intel new offerings are released.
 
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The PSU should have enough guts to do what it has to do right? I can't see why not...
 
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The PSU should have enough guts to do what it has to do right? I can't see why not...

Yup it is. but if you're getting a stronger card down the road (HD 6950, GTX 570,..) then that PSU won't be enought.
 

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The PSU should have enough guts to do what it has to do right? I can't see why not...

Power supply is more than plenty. In a recent review of the HD 6850 full system pull at the wall was ~270W paired with an i7 965, HD6850 pulls about ~127W wish is about the same as the HD5770 and alot less than the HD4850.

One thing you may want to look at, case and cooler. Said you like silent well see if you can find a Sunbeam Core Contact freezer, Xigmatek Achilles/Dark knight or Coolermaster V8/6GT for cheap.
 
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Cooling Scythe Zipang II
Memory 2x4GB Crucial DDR3
Video Card(s) MSI GTX970
Storage M4 124GB SSD// WD Black 640GB// WD Black 1TB//Samsung F3 1.5TB
Display(s) Samsung SM223BW 21.6"
Case Generic
Power Supply Corsair HX 520W
Software Windows 7
Sweet, many thanks to you three fine up standing gentlemen.

I will spend a bit of time tweaking the AMD build, and will let you know when I have done the deed!

Thanks again.
:D
 
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